What Would Be Needed To Shoot 'Retro' Porn These Days?

Im looking at a proposal someone just sent me to do some exclusive retro style content using an old model camera and some not bad looking models to do a couple of retro style porn shoots but im wondering if it would be easier to cut out the middle man and shoot this stuff myself?

I mean, in reality, all that would be needed would be an old camera and some place to process the film wouldnt it?

Your thoughts on this, could this be a way to produce original vintage gay content that would pass for retro in the eyes of the surfer?

Regards,

Lee

why an old camera?i would think the trick would be 'style' ... haircuts.... posing straps etc.

and black and white film ;)

You're talking stills only?

You could probably find a "retro" plugin for photoshop that will mimic Kodachrome or Ektachrome.

Same for video, and there are definitely some gamma filters and noise filters you can use to simulate old 16mm film.

The purists will be able to notice the difference, but I doubt anyone else will.

When you say Retro, what decade are you talking about? The looks change drastically over a short amount of time.

40's 50's - lot of black and white
60's - grain and high red/yellow saturation
70's - bring on the betamax

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Originally Posted by Lee

What Would Be Needed To Shoot 'Retro' Porn These Days?

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- Long dry (California) hair or short (butch) hair (helps to think of Freddie Mercury here)

- Big bushy mustache

- Untrimmed pubic hair

- Actors with hairy chests and butts

- Big cocks... did everyone have a huge dick back in the 70's or what?

- Tube socks with colored stripes at the top pulled almost to the knee

- Really tight faded 501's (ripped in strategic places is an added bonus)

- Poppers

- Lots of performers with semi-hard dicks (pre-Viagra, remember)

- You don't need condoms and fancy lube... just spit on dick or use Crisco

sideburns, mustaches, the right clothes (thrift shops should handle this) and models who aren't the perfect buff look we see today. some cheesy motels will have that orange and brown late 70's furniture and carpets that will make any video look old. then you buy old style porn music and have the start of each video have guys use words like foxy ;)

i'm sure you can find some kind of program to make video look vintage without shooting on film.

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Originally Posted by gaybucks_chip

You're talking stills only?

You could probably find a "retro" plugin for photoshop that will mimic Kodachrome or Ektachrome.

Same for video, and there are definitely some gamma filters and noise filters you can use to simulate old 16mm film.

The purists will be able to notice the difference, but I doubt anyone else will.

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I'm with Chip. Use technology to your advantage. There is a reason people dont use old cameras anymore.

retro porn ... doesn't have to be TOO true to the times though. I mean those old porn stars looks :::shudder:::

and it was worse with straight porn. Gay males in old porn movies oftne looked better than straight women in "mainstream" porn.

This guy is doing the same thing:

http://www.handbookmen.com/

A bit off the subject, but a couple years ago I went to a screening at the gay film festival of a new movie shot with an antique hand-crank camera from the turn of the century. It was shot to look exactly like an old silent film. At the Q&A afterward, everyone was blown away by the attention to detail in filming, but the filmaker finally confessed that when it came to editing, he edited with iMovie...

A cheap motel with wood paneling

A midiocre camera

and an Imac ~ for all those aging special effects ~

a lot of guys really like how those old time pornstars look - and that's your market. same with straight women - those retro str8 vids are big. men love the look of those women and - more importantly - they PAY to see them.

good ol' porn :D

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Originally Posted by SPACE GLIDER

retro porn ... doesn't have to be TOO true to the times though. I mean those old porn stars looks :::shudder:::

and it was worse with straight porn. Gay males in old porn movies oftne looked better than straight women in "mainstream" porn.

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Lee, this can be done without shooting on an old cam, I'm pretty sure. I know Wash West shot "retro" porn for Seven Deadly Sins: Gluttony. He told me what kind of cam it was, but I forget now.

Also, authentic clothes and hairstyles from the time period and music that fit the '70s porn would also be essential to making this kind of content successful.

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Originally Posted by SPACE GLIDER

retro porn ... doesn't have to be TOO true to the times though. I mean those old porn stars looks :::shudder:::

and it was worse with straight porn. Gay males in old porn movies oftne looked better than straight women in "mainstream" porn.

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I actually dig the way gay men looked in the old '70s films. More natural bodies and a more rugged, natural masculine look. Not so picture-perfect, prissy and self-conscious. Just regular VERSATILE guys getting off together. That was back before steroids and total tops and bottoms. Ahhh, good times. :)

We rented (sight unseen) a vacation house that we were planning to shoot a bunch of scenes with our models.

Unfortunately, not only was the place not at all as represented, but it literally looked like it came *right* out of 1974, down to the orange shag carpet, wood paneling walls, vintage burnt orange sofa and matching chairs, and avocado and coppertone appliances.

So AJ made some calls, got us a refund on the one house, and found us another... but the funny thing was, we had a model who *also* looked like he walked right out of 1974, so we decided that if we ever decided to shoot retro porn, we'd have both the location and at least one of the models we needed.

I wonder how much those "Behind the Green Door" people and porn stars of that era were paid.

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I wonder how much those "Behind the Green Door" people and porn stars of that era were paid.

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Bet they were lucky to get $100 per scene. :)

The thing about doing "retro" porn today is that it's not "retro" if they're using condoms. That's what pulls me out of those gladiator-themed movies from Private Men. They're set in ancient times, and then the models roll a condom on their dicks and it destroys the whole thing for me. I'm a stickler for authenticity.

That's why I think it will be cool to have the technology to somehow digitally remove the condom from the shot if you are trying to shoot something that's a period film. As long as there's a message before the movie starts that says "Condoms were used in the making of this film, but were digitally removed to preserve authenticity of the period," it's all good. :)

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Originally Posted by SPACE GLIDER

retro porn ... doesn't have to be TOO true to the times though. I mean those old porn stars looks :::shudder:::

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I LOVE the old porn stars! BRUNO, MOOSE, GUNNER, AL PARKER! About the only porn we watch in this house (for pleasure) is old Colt movie shorts or old Joe Gage movies re-released on DVD .

short shorts, tubes socks and my old producers amc pacer

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Originally Posted by Xstr8guy

I LOVE the old porn stars! BRUNO, MOOSE, GUNNER, AL PARKER! About the only porn we watch in this house (for pleasure) is old Colt movie shorts or old Joe Gage movies re-released on DVD .

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The new Joe Gage movies aren't so bad either, fella. Nobody puts together a seduction scene quite like Joe Gage. I got to meet him at the GAYVN Awards this year and I fell all over myself praising him for making my masturbatory sessions almost as hot as they were when I was a teenager jerking off to old Sears catalogs. He also mixes and matches models so that everyone doesn't look like they came off the same porn star conveyor belt. Joe Gage ROCKS!

Check out Back to Barstow, 110 in Tuscon, Alabama Takedown and Lifeguard: Deep Water for some of his great recent work. All available from Titan.

I don't know why anyone would want to res-"erect" an old style - knock offs are dumb in my opinion unless they are "contemporised" and made to be comedies...

reinvention is cool like the video I was in for Wash West - I think it was Glut-"tony" or something - it was a gay porn re-make of THE PICTURE OF DORIAN GRAY with me playing Dorian - lots of re-created "old" footage of "me" in projected form - me growing old as the videos lived on - or somethng like that...

the movie did win a bunch of awards back then (I think - I wasn't there) but that was an interesting, unique and creative way of incorporating old without trying to "redo" something

plus, let's not forget - old movies were shot without condoms and what would we do today... if re-shooting in the same style.... oh my...!

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Originally Posted by A_DeAngelo

I don't know why anyone would want to res-"erect" an old style - knock offs are dumb in my opinion unless they are contemporised and made to be comedies...

reinvention is cool like the video I was in for Wash West - I think it was Glut-"tony" or something - it was a gay porn re-make of THE PICTURE OF DORIAN GRAY with me playing Dorian - lots of re-created "old" footage of "me" in projected form - me growing old as the videos lived on - or somethng like that...

the movie did win a bunch of awards back then (I think - I wasn't there) but that was an interesting, unique and creative way of incorporating old without trying to "redo" something

plus, let's not forget - old movies were shot without condoms and what would we do today... if re-shooting in the same style.... oh my...!

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I think Lee might have meant "retro-style" porn, as opposed to direct knock-offs of other titles. Personally, I would love to see someone do a contemporary version of retro porn. After all, those retro fashions are all very popular now with the American Apparel crowd and those who read BUTT magazine, so "retro" is definitely in. I think just having models who don't look like they worship at the altar of G.Y.M. and approaching it with a tongue-in-cheek sense of humor would be kinda cool at EVOKING retro porn, as opposed to just mimicking it.

oh yes of course -

I should sell my storage locker full of priceless fashions from the 60's and 70's

you know that everything comes back around if you keep it long enough!

even the Beatles...

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Originally Posted by XXXWriterDude

The new Joe Gage movies aren't so bad either, fella. Nobody puts together a seduction scene quite like Joe Gage. I got to meet him at the GAYVN Awards this year and I fell all over myself praising him for making my masturbatory sessions almost as hot as they were when I was a teenager jerking off to old Sears catalogs. He also mixes and matches models so that everyone doesn't look like they came off the same porn star conveyor belt. Joe Gage ROCKS!

Check out Back to Barstow, 110 in Tuscon, Alabama Takedown and Lifeguard: Deep Water for some of his great recent work. All available from Titan.

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I have a couple of the new Joe Gage movies and i do like them too. Maybe I should go to a torrent site and see if I can download the rest. JUST KIDDING Keith!