Why the hell would Lee remove people from GWW after 30 days?

I just recieved an interesting email from this board:

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Dear TheWhack,

You are receiving this message because our script has flagged your GWW Community account as being inactive for 30 days.

To ensure that your account isn’t removed from our database and so that you can continually access the information and knowledge shared on the GWW Community please take a few moments now to login to the forum at http://forums.gaywidewebmasters.com

Logging in to the forum is the only action you need to take if you would like to keep your existing account active.

If you no longer with to have access to the GWW Community you do not have to do anything and your account will be automatically removed within the next 60 days.

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Why in the hell would you want to remove an active webmaster from your database within 30 days? After 12 months or longer I could understand. There are times I don’t visit a board for 5-6 months at a time. I am sorry I don’t contribute as often as you think a person should. I try to work on my sites and come here to discuss certain ideas once in a while, if I am supposed to do that within 30 days each time I will gladly take my discussions elsewhere where I know I am welcome.

I am just a little curious why it seems you are working against people in this industry rather than with them… This is just the perception I have gathered from coming to the GWW community.


That’s my 2 cents

Im guessing Lee wants people to be more active and post each month.

This topic comes up all the time and it always has the same answer.

Its to ensure that the database remains current, up to date and that spambots arent left festering taking up system resources.

Every business needs to clean house once in a while, by sending that email out to people who havent logged in to GWW in 30 days and removing their account after 60 days, it ensures that the database is as tidy as possible.

Theres nothing more to it than that im afraid, its just to make my job a lot easier each week with the bulletin by pruning deliquent accounts :)

Regards,

Lee

I am looking forward to your database being "correct". I have had now several email warnings with a login I have not used in over a year. The email says... no need to do anything if not interested.

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Originally Posted by wnc

I am looking forward to your database being "correct". I have had now several email warnings with a login I have not used in over a year.

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Do you want that tyrain user to be deleted?

Regards,

Lee

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Originally Posted by Lee

Do you want that tyrain user to be deleted?

Regards,

Lee

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YES PLEASE. So Lee, you knew I was that past name - yet I never used the other name. Knowing whom I am, why have you kept that second name active?

I did not like doing a Google and seeing GWW showing up with my "brand" name.

So yes, for those reading, I WAS tyrain and became WNC.

As usual LEE, you love to create an issue out of nothing - thusting me out of the shadow I wanted to be in.

THANK YOU and FUCK YOU LEE

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Originally Posted by wnc

YES PLEASE. So Lee, you knew I was that past name - yet I never used the other name.

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I need to correct, I was that other name and I was active in posting. I stopped using my "brand" name because GWW was getting higher hits via Google. I am sorry, but I would rather a search via google find ME not GWW.

wnc, did you ever ask Lee to delete your old name? I mean, all this database cleanup stuff is done automatically. I'm sure Lee doesn't sit there and look over all his inactive accounts himself, writhing his hands going "bwahahahaaaaa, who's life can I mess up today".

Now, I'm not saying he never says that, just saying that he doesn't do that over dead accounts. LOL!

And TheWhack, is it really that hard to log in once a month? I mean, it's a click of a button. If you have the password stored in you computer you don't even have to type.

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Originally Posted by DonMike

And TheWhack, is it really that hard to log in once a month? I mean, it's a click of a button. If you have the password stored in you computer you don't even have to type.

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over 200 posts, with this name WNC... so I have writen my opinions.

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Originally Posted by DonMike

wnc, did you ever ask Lee to delete your old name?

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Yes, I should have, but got so many warning notices, I thought he needed a vibrant email list for ad income.

I didn't mean my above post to sound harsh but I have to say that this reminds me of a post that an old friend of mine has been posting on MySpace recently. Now, I look at the bulletins to see what announcements people have but this one friend, whom I don't even really talk to anymore, has been posting these messages all about how MySpace sucks because he's having trouble posting pictures to his blog. His bulletins are always in all caps and he posts them every day several times a day. So while I'm trying to check out my messages all I see are MYSPACE SUCKS, ANOTHER DAY OF MYSPACE SUCKING, MORE OF MYSPACE SUCKING. It's really pissing me off.

So, I'm already on edge about this sort of thing. It's like someone walking into your house at a party and complaining that they couldn't find a parking place and they don't like your choice in lamps.

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Originally Posted by DonMike

So, I'm already on edge about this sort of thing. It's like someone walking into your house at a party and complaining that they couldn't find a parking place and they don't like your choice in lamps.

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I am sure this comment was not related to me DonMike.


200 versus 4000 is just time available

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Originally Posted by wnc

YES PLEASE. So Lee, you knew I was that past name - yet I never used the other name. Knowing whom I am, why have you kept that second name active?

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Because it hasnt bounced any emails and because it did actually have posts associated with is as you can see here...

http://forums.gaywidewebmasters.com/member.php?u=1576

I will of course remove that username now that you have asked, which is something you should probably have done a lot sooner ;)

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I did not like doing a Google and seeing GWW showing up with my "brand" name.

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You could have asked me to delete that username or change it to you new one WNC, i would have gladly done so as i do for a lot of people each month, it takes all of 30 seconds to shoot me a PM asking me to change a name or remove one.

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As usual LEE, you love to create an issue out of nothing - thusting me out of the shadow I wanted to be in.

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As i see it, you are the one that created this 'issue' not me, if you had sent me a PM when you decided that you no longer wanted to use that tyrain username either asking me to remove it, or to change it, it would have been done.

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THANK YOU and FUCK YOU LEE

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You're welcome and, fuck you too :)

Regards,

Lee

EXCUSE ME LEE... I made a simple comment.

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Originally Posted by wnc

I am looking forward to your database being "correct". I have had now several email warnings with a login I have not used in over a year. The email says... no need to do anything if not interested.

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You decided to expose my old name, INSTEAD of going private, making it an issue, as normal for GWW. There are two popular Gay forums. One hosted by Lee, namely GWW and his contant negative comments and the other. CCBILL writes in this forum and Epoch writes in the other. Shame a seperation, not unlike current USA politics.

In the meantime, you have embarrassed me LEE... so go ahead and delete me.... oh both names, please

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Originally Posted by wnc

You decided to expose my old name

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Huh? Excuse me, what exactly was there to 'expose' LOL

Seems to me you are trying to make drama for the sake of it in this thread.

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In the meantime, you have embarrassed me LEE... so go ahead and delete me.... oh both names, please

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If you are sure thats what you want, then i will do.

Shoot me a PM confirming that you would like me to remove both of your usernames and ill get that done for you, i dont see the need myself though $0.02

Regards,

Lee

Why is it so important to some people to try keep their identities and past histories secret?

If you try to hide something, it just appears that you are hiding something.

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Originally Posted by chadknowslaw

Why is it so important to some people to try keep their identities and past histories secret?

If you try to hide something, it just appears that you are hiding something.

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Wish I knew... never did understand that multiple username stuff... :morning:

I am who I pretend to be.

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Originally Posted by DonMike

I didn't mean my above post to sound harsh but I have to say that this reminds me of a post that an old friend of mine has been posting on MySpace recently. Now, I look at the bulletins to see what announcements people have but this one friend, whom I don't even really talk to anymore, has been posting these messages all about how MySpace sucks because he's having trouble posting pictures to his blog. His bulletins are always in all caps and he posts them every day several times a day. So while I'm trying to check out my messages all I see are MYSPACE SUCKS, ANOTHER DAY OF MYSPACE SUCKING, MORE OF MYSPACE SUCKING. It's really pissing me off.

So, I'm already on edge about this sort of thing. It's like someone walking into your house at a party and complaining that they couldn't find a parking place and they don't like your choice in lamps.

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I'm surprise you aren't angrier than you are. That kind of crap would totally enrage me.

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Originally Posted by chadknowslaw

If you try to hide something, it just appears that you are hiding something.

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How profound. Was it Plato or Socrates who first busted out that gem? I'm also a fan of "When I have a shoe on my foot, I am wearing a shoe."

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Originally Posted by chodadog

How profound. Was it Plato or Socrates who first busted out that gem? I'm also a fan of "When I have a shoe on my foot, I am wearing a shoe."

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You sure do have a keen eye for the obvious :thumbsup:

The point I was trying to make in this post is why is it so important to purge the database of users every 30 days? That seems a bit excessive to me. I know I am not the only one here who doesn't make an effort of making sure I come here to post every 30 days or so just to keep my username active. No it’s not hard to login once a month, but if I have to do that every 30 days just so I don’t lose my name then fuck it. I would much rather post elsewhere where I don’t have to worry about a rule like that. Lee you are more than welcome to run the board like you want. I was just wondering why this rule is so important.

You claim you purge the database every 30 days to keep the DB as tidy as possible and for festering bots. This is why VBulletin created plug-ins to clean up bots and have the captcha on the newer versions. This seems like a more effective way of keeping your DB tidy than losing legitimate webmasters from posting on GWW.

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Originally Posted by TheWhack

This is why VBulletin created plug-ins to clean up bots and have the captcha on the newer versions. This seems like a more effective way of keeping your DB tidy than losing legitimate webmasters from posting on GWW.

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GWW already uses those plugins from VBulletin and spam bots STILL get past those systems, thats why im using this specific plugin and running it every 30 days, to make sure that deliquent accounts, primarily created by spammers, are removed from the database. Yes, genuine accounts are going to be flagged as inactive too, its an unfortunate realisizm of having to constantly adapt to and fight board spammers.

Its also why free web-based email address that are popular with spammers have been banned from user profiles upon registration, despite some of the GWW regulars using them for their emails.

Its also why a new registered user has to make a certain number of posts before being able to put links in their replies or threads.

Bottom line here, as long as spammers/post bots continue to by-pass the systems put in place by VBulletin, im going to have to keep restricting certain things like email addresses and the lengths of time where users have been logged out before being removed, otherwise GWW is going to turn in to a clusterfuck which will effect everyone.

Regards,

Lee

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Originally Posted by TheWhack

... if I have to do that every 30 days just so I don’t lose my name then fuck it. I would much rather post elsewhere where I don’t have to worry about a rule like that. Lee you are more than welcome to run the board like you want. I was just wondering why this rule is so important....

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There are probably issues of unique visitors per month, page views and thread count to set advertising rates. That little email reminder sent near the end of the month would probably generate a few hundred additional uniques, and of course this thread has increased page views and thread count.

Just a guess on my part. With the instigated drama here, it all works together to keep those numbers up in the face of competition from other boards that have seen a recent surge in popularity.

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?o=l&c...=3&h=300&w=610

Yep, traffic count is slowly falling down.....

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Originally Posted by chadknowslaw

I am who I pretend to be.

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...and I am Lippi and I was Lippi and I will be Lippi in the future...

...AND it is very pity to see how the level of this before professional board going down and down every day. :banme:

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Originally Posted by hotporn

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?o=l&c...=3&h=300&w=610

Yep, traffic count is slowly falling down.....

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To be fair, Max visited and posted 15,000 times a day during that earlier period.

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Originally Posted by HotMaleVideos

To be fair, Max visited and posted 15,000 times a day during that earlier period.

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It was also the end of the 200,000th post contest :)

I just love reading the conspiracys as to why im trying to make my job easier by the peanut gallery lol

Regards,

Lee

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Originally Posted by hotporn

http://traffic.alexa.com/graph?o=l&c...=3&h=300&w=610

Yep, traffic count is slowly falling down.....

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And we all know that Alexa is perfectly accurate. ;)

Will someone tell me what the point of all this is?

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Originally Posted by DonMike

Will someone tell me what the point of all this is?

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I may be off but it reads like a nutty buddy attempt at sifting the forum to pan out a few new members for another forum through misdirection.

Meaning, there has been a good many new sign-ups over here. Thus - "Someone go post on GWW to raise awareness about GMS"

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Originally Posted by IdolKnights

I may be off but it reads like a nutty buddy attempt at sifting the forum to pan out a few new members for another forum through misdirection.

Meaning, there has been a good many new sign-ups over here. Thus - "Someone go post on GWW to raise awareness about GMS"

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LOL! Yeah, because we can't possibly post on BOTH forums, can we? Please. I don't think anyone should restrict themselves to just one board.

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Originally Posted by DonMike

LOL! Yeah, because we can't possibly post on BOTH forums, can we? Please. I don't think anyone should restrict themselves to just one board.

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Gee, I don't know. I post on 69 different forums each day, never had a problem with logging in, posting, and so what if it takes me 12 hours each day, like what else is there to do? :toiletpaper: (j/k) Okay so really it maybe is 4 or 5 that I check daily, I think that if Lee cleaning the DB helps keep the place tidy, free of those spam bots, not a big deal to log in, check the board and move on if there isn't anything to comment on.

But hey whatever turns people's cranks... :kickcan: