Appraising Brent Corrigan

Yesterday evening I noticed that Brent Corrigan was signing up for BoyzShop.com. The name was familiar to me so I looked him up. From there I checked out BrentCorriganOnline.com and noticed the decent alexa ranking. Naturally I sent him a personal welcome email.
Today I noticed the whole deal with him leaving BrentCorriganOnline and moving to BrentCorriganinc.com. I noticed him blogging about getting a retail job. He seems to be a bit impoverished. What is the Brent Corrigan name worth these days? I know it's crazy cold to ask that, but is he on his way out of adult, or is he going to bounce back? I tend to be optimistic and I'm straight, I may recognize the name, but I don't pretend to be in touch.
He says he'll pull his fans over to the new site and be back like never before. He says he wants to use our store to make money. If he's got a viable brand I want to turbocharge it and blast him out of destitution. We're not packing a porn production operation over here, but we've got a kickass retail platform and fantastic fulfillment capabilities. I'll put in the effort to help him customize his site right whether he's taking off or not, but I want to know if I should be doing more.

Heres a load of info on the guy...

http://forums.gaywidewebmasters.com/...ad.php?t=12320

Regards,

Lee

Thanks Lee, but I did my research, checked his wikipedia entry, searched the forum. We had to pull some images from our store and the DVDs from eXtremeRestraints.com and BoyzShop.com.
I'm not looking for who he was. I wanted to know who he is today, and who he might be tomorrow.

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Originally Posted by JamesXR

I wanted to know who he is today, and who he might be tomorrow.

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He's that scumbag who appeared in underage porn and blamed everyone except himself today.

He'll also be the same guy tomorrow $0.02

Just my opinion of course. But when the going got rough, he decided what was happening was 'wrong' while he was making money he was fine with it all.

Regards,

Lee

To play devil's advocate, don't they have age rules because people under 18 don't always make the wisest life choices.
Of course studies have show that people's brains are still adolescent into the early 20's, but the law compromised because conservatives wanted to marry kids off young. I like that the Chinese government doesn't allow marriage before 25. But I'm derailing my own topic.
I'm just wondering on the appeal of Brent Corrigan, beyond the hype.

They do however, ask yourself, do you want your company associated with someone who appeared in underage porn films?

Thats the bottom line here, its your companies reputation on the line, whats that worth in terms of possible revenue?

Regards,

Lee

It's your choice, and it sounds like you've already made up your mind (I always wonder why people post and ask for input if they've already made a decision) but I would be extremely careful.

As far as I've ever read, Brent/Sean has never had a positive business experience with anyone he's ever done business with. This includes his business partner at BCO, Falcon, Cobra, and various other people he's worked with or attempted to work with. The other issue is his boyfriend is reputed to be very, very difficult to work with, and he apparently involves himself into everything, and not in a positive way. And, to hear him tell it, it's always the other party's fault.

Brent had some appeal 4 years ago, but he's never been anything particularly special as far as a porn model. Perhaps when he looked (and was) underage, he sold for that reason (and the then-strength of the Cobra brand probably did more than he did to sell the titles that made him popular)... but that was almost 4 years ago. Sammy Case, for example, was much, much bigger than Brent ever has been, and his product continues to sell well even though he's been heavily overexposed.

Oh, and then there's the question of any involvement with the Bryan Kocis murder. There are a lot of allegations flying, at least some shred of truth (why would he have insisted on immunity from prosecution if he was completely innocent?) and honestly, it's not something I'd want to get within 10 miles of.

If he's just signing up as an affiliate, then there's no harm. But I'd be very, very careful about doing any sort of cooperative business deal.

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Originally Posted by Lee

They do however, ask yourself, do you want your company associated with someone who appeared in underage porn films?

Thats the bottom line here, its your companies reputation on the line, whats that worth in terms of possible revenue?

Regards,

Lee

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Lee, that is fantastic. I did ask myself that, and the answer was, "I don't know." So I thought "Who would know?" I checked some associates. Then I thought, "I'll check the gay webmaster boards, they'll know!" Here I am, being asked that same question.

Still, wouldn't some call yours a "blame the victim" mentality. I guess I didn't see him as a criminal.

Chip, we don't produce porn at Boyzshop.com. We retail. I'd like to provide tools to help a guy out. We can distribute a product. It's not a high risk position to put oneself in. However, I really appreciate your concern and advice. You are right about his past business experiences. We're not looking to hitch our wagon to his name. We're looking to give him a boost using the mighty power of Boyzshop.com. If he can take that and rebuild his empire starting as a Boyzshop.com affiliate, then good for him. If he can't capitalize, we won't crumble because a product didn't sell.
Your appraisal of his present day value was just what I was looking for. I'll be careful.

I'm willing to give just about anyone a second chance.

Maybe even Brent, although we'd never shoot him for Fratmen.

He DOES, however, have a history of screwing things up royally and then blaming everyone around him.. in a very public way.

Then again.. like it or not, he's a got a fan base that's in love with him.

After reading this post, I went to PerezHilton.com, who has Brent Corrigan on one of its posts from today..LOL

I have met Brent Corrigan. When I met him I got the vibes that he's a 2-faced deceiving little prick!

I knew Bryan Kocis (Cobra Video). Bryan bent over backwards for Brent. Bryan gave that boy things nobody had ever gave him. Bryan spent money on him, took him shopping, nearly or did buy him a brand new car. Bryan treated him good.

When I found out that Bryan Kocis had been murdered (Keep in mind I'm only a couple hours from where Bryan Kocis lived). Anyways, when Bryan Kocis was murdered... I called the police of Dallas Township, PA. I asked them if there was anything that I could do to help and that I knew Bryan. We spoke for hours on the phone. Then I drove 4.5 hours the following Saturday and spent my entire Saturday with a detective and a cop.

These guys were blind walking into this investigation. They had no clue where to start. I aided them.

Bryan never deserved to be murdered. Ya, maybe he did like his guys young or his flings young. But Brent Corrigan allowed Bryan and wanted Bryan to have sex with him. It says it right on his blog at BrentCorriganOnline.com that he and Bryan were in a sexual (boyfriends) relationship.

And I know damn well that Brent had something to do in the murder of Bryan Kocis. Don't tell me he wasn't because if he wasn't how did the 2 guys from Virginia get his address??? His 2257 Statement is NOT his address. I know he aided in the murder! It may not be revealed today, it may not be revealed tomorow. But it will come out into the light.

Brent Corrigan is a deceatful, back stabbing, 2-faced, lying prick!

Watch yourself! Be careful!

Sounds like another Justin Berry!!! Dive into the business, deceive everyone, make money, claim foul and then blame everyone else.

I couldn't have said it better myself!

After the Kocis murder trial is complete and there is closure, it is one possibility that Brent's story is worth more in the mainstream world than he can make running his own porn site.

Had Justin Berry remained a model there is no way Oprah would have had him on. And I'm really inclined to think Brent could have been on some big shows by now also had he quit.

Well, he does fancy himself an "actor" now, apparently somebody hired him for a video or something and so now he thinks he can be successful in the acting world... but until the ego deflates a bit, I doubt he'll ever get much of anywhere.

He won't make it far

Yeah, but you both have to admit...there is nothing better than "mainstream" news to bring awareness to a person in our business.:sunny:

By the way...I finally broke down and registered for this site so...HI !

Well Hi there mister Ragan!!!! How the fuck are ya?!?!
Welcome to the community! :bush: :bush: :bush: :bush:

You have a very good point there! I agree with you.

Thank You JJ. I'm doing very well...and yourself?

I'm doing well thank you... I'm just having some health problems but I'm doing good.
Give me a call, don't be a stranger :specs:

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... And I know damn well that Brent had something to do in the murder of Bryan Kocis. Don't tell me he wasn't because if he wasn't how did the 2 guys from Virginia get his address??? His 2257 Statement is NOT his address. I know he aided in the murder! It may not be revealed today, it may not be revealed tomorow. But it will come out into the light.

Brent Corrigan is a deceatful, back stabbing, 2-faced, lying prick!

Watch yourself! Be careful!

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Amen, brother... much, much more will be revealed. Sooner than later, I hope.

Anyone who considers working with Brent Corrigan deserves whatever they get in my opinion. Someone who willfully violates a fundamental premise of how we, as adult content producers, must conduct our business in order to be legal should not be rewarded by our industry!

Traci Lords was black-listed by this industry for the same thing, but astonishingly, Brent got scooped up by one of the more reputable gay porn companies (Falcon) and even given the box cover in his work with them. My opinion of Falcon dropped dramatically after that business move, as it will with anyone who touches this liar.

Isn't it obvious to anyone why none of us should work with anyone who has made underage porn? At the very least, out of self-preservation since nothing we do should encourage more kids to show up at our door with fake ID, putting our freedom and livelihood at jeopardy so they can earn a few bucks.

Keith

Keith... You made some very good points. But yet I have an argument with you...
You said anyone who considers working with Brent Corrigan deserves whatever they get.... Maybe you know or dont know but Brent Corrigan and Bryan Kocis were lovers. That's why Brent was hired as an exclusive model for Cobra Video. Brent played and used Bryan. We all seen it! Or at least most of us seen it. And Bryan was a very good man.

But in Bryan's defense.... I had a 17 year old approach me to model. He was very hot. He told me he was 18, he came to my house on New Years Eve this past January, he was a cool guy. Then I set up a shoot with him for January 20th. He shows up, he hands me an ID, it was altered as hell. If I looked at it really hard I could tell that he took a sharpy or a magic marker and put a dot over the year he was born, but I had to look REALLY hard for it. And I look for that stuff. I took him in my home office and asked him his real age. He said I am 17 but I want to become a "Porn Star" really bad. I said you call me when your 18 for real and you bring more proof that you will be 18 and I'll put you in a video if you really want that.

So the moral of the story is that it's not always the producers faults that hire underage. Personally my studio is ages 22 to 35. But these models are also running around with Fake IDs, they're running around with altered IDs, etc. so we really can't take complete blame either. I think it's a 50/50 situation.

BUT YES, it is the producers responsibility to check for things like this and NOT TO HIRE THEM. But nobody deserves to be killed over it either.

My suggestion to everyone that shoots content is this. Even if you have the foggiest notion that you have an underage perspective model take the 10 minutes and the 7.95 and do a background check on him. Anyone that cries invasion of privacy is always suspect. The bottom line is this. Who's willing to take the chance getting caught up in a situation like Brent put Brian in. Best case in the end is that you only lose your reputation. Worst case of course in prison. I'll take the 10 or 15 minutes to make damn good and sure I'm not dealing with a minor. No amount of money can change that...ever! For those that are to greedy to cross the Tees and dot the eyes.....The $ in Lawyer fee's will far exceed any revenue that any model can bring in. It's just not worth it. Do background checks via either their SS # or school records.....something. There is no such thing as overkill when verifying the age of a new model!!

Sebastian,
I thank you for your insight. I think you missed what Keith was saying. He was ripping into Brent, not Bryan.

I'm going to have to bring up another point for discussion here. "How much do you vilify the underage porn model?" Damn, if a lot of people haven't been ripping into Brent for ruining porn with his fake id. I don't personally know Brent, but it appears that he's not been the best person to work with as of late. But a 17 year old getting into something with a fake id doesn't seem to be a great reason to condemn him. 17 is underage because the law assumes that 17 year olds have poor judgement. This is a different topic and I'm starting a different thread, but while I'm not going to defend Brent on being a bad businessman, and making poor decisions, making poor decisions at 17 might be excusable. Seriously, who can't look back at their younger self and reflect on all the idiotic things you once did? After 17, well yeah... not going there.

You really should go back and read my posting! Where did I defend murder? Where did I even mention the death of Kocis?

This thread started with someone considering buying some content with Brent and I was reacting to that. Issues of what may or may not have happened with Kocis are not my point since, to address them, would only be gossip on my part.

The fact I am clear on is this: Brent Corrigan made a big mistake as a 17 year-old young man by engaging in open deception. He has never truly taken any responsibility for this and since I am one who believes a teenage boy is fully capable of making "adult" mistakes, I believe he should take most of the blame. Since this news of his deception came to light in a publicity stunt he used to re-launch his career, he has continued to be idolized with club appearances and porn movie deals with the studios. Our industry should not reward deception by underage youth, plain and simple.

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Originally Posted by SebSloPro

Keith... You made some very good points. But yet I have an argument with you...
You said anyone who considers working with Brent Corrigan deserves whatever they get.... Maybe you know or dont know but Brent Corrigan and Bryan Kocis were lovers. That's why Brent was hired as an exclusive model for Cobra Video. Brent played and used Bryan. We all seen it! Or at least most of us seen it. And Bryan was a very good man.

But in Bryan's defense.... I had a 17 year old approach me to model. He was very hot. He told me he was 18, he came to my house on New Years Eve this past January, he was a cool guy. Then I set up a shoot with him for January 20th. He shows up, he hands me an ID, it was altered as hell. If I looked at it really hard I could tell that he took a sharpy or a magic marker and put a dot over the year he was born, but I had to look REALLY hard for it. And I look for that stuff. I took him in my home office and asked him his real age. He said I am 17 but I want to become a "Porn Star" really bad. I said you call me when your 18 for real and you bring more proof that you will be 18 and I'll put you in a video if you really want that.

So the moral of the story is that it's not always the producers faults that hire underage. Personally my studio is ages 22 to 35. But these models are also running around with Fake IDs, they're running around with altered IDs, etc. so we really can't take complete blame either. I think it's a 50/50 situation.

BUT YES, it is the producers responsibility to check for things like this and NOT TO HIRE THEM. But nobody deserves to be killed over it either.

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Keith,
Whether you believe that condemnation or forgiveness is the answer for the Brent Corrigan case, he was rewarded, and apparently tried to use the being under 18 thing as leverage to break out of contracts (I don't know details on that or how it worked out). The moral of this story doesn't exactly provide a strong deterrent to others thinking of sneaking into porn early.
Of course, it doesn't look like he's effectively capitalized on all of his fame. For all that brand equity, he's blogging about getting a job in retail. If he's as manipulative and undeserving as you say, he's been torpedoed by karma.
I wasn't looking to buy content so much as move product. While that seems a far less risky position, apparently it's not without its hazards. What with all the murder and deception, any deals would need far more due diligence than most.

To be fair, Sean didn't try to use the underage thing to get out of his contract with Cobra. Everyone involved admits that Sean was 18 when he entered into the deal that got him the car in exchange for shooting a bunch more scenes, only one of which he ever did.

In short, Sean has shown himself to be an extremely manipulative kid, but Bryan also, according to the reports of Chad and others, did unethical and illegal stuff.

I'm not saying that Bryan didn't have good qualities, I'm sure he did. But Sean certainly had some problems with the way he handled things.

Chip, I gotta set a few facts straight. Since I was involved in this case at the beginning, I keep opinions to myself but I will correct a few errors.

After Sean released me as counsel, the lead attorney he hired filed an amended response to Cobra's complaint, and in that amended response he did use the fact that Sean was not of legal age, and therefore not able to enter into a binding contract, as a defense against Cobra's breach of contract claims.

Also, Cobra accepted a scanned and emailed image as an ID. Sean admits the ID was altered, but Cobra still accepted the scanned image without verifying by inspecting the actual ID. Accepting a scanned image without inspecting the actual ID breaches 2257. Could you imagine faxing an ID to a bouncer then showing up at the bar and expecting to be let in without the bouncer taking a look at the actual ID??

Kocis was charged with having sex with the 15 year old and videotaping it. He plead guilty and was convicted of possession of the video, but the more serious charge was dropped in the plea agreement.

Traci Lords had 2 ID's that were government issued and showed that she was over 18 even though she was not. The 2257 law that was created over that debacle would not have prevented her underage performances! It is my understanding she went on to do many more scenes after the deception was discovered.