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silvercash has a new gay "reality" site...
http://www.supertwink.com/main.html
obviously it's not aimed at guys who like slender, pretty, hairless twinks :-/ totally aside from everything else (i feel it is disrespectful and TOTALLY non-sexual), who is this site supposed to be aimed at as far as buyers? it eludes me entirely...
am i missing something here?
Gary-Alan and I actually saw a kinda of preview of the site a couple of weeks ago.
Content from the site are already being posted on GFY in a negative manner :(
Regards,
Lee
here's what i don't get. twinks don't wear makeup or they're cross dressers or queens. it's seems to be a straight man making fun of gay people - but then who do they suppose will buy memberships?
their main character is grotesque - at least to me - and repelling. am i missing something or did they just do a reality site dedicated to insulting the people whose money they want?
I'll see if we can get Bangwang over to post some info in this thread :)
Regards,
Lee
Well, having known some raver boys who do favor bright neon outfits, plastic kid's jewelry, pacifiers, and make-up, I wasn't as offended as some. It's not your average twink site, that's for sure. But there is a superhero fetish. I know a guy who has several spandex super hero costumes and he loves to tie guys up, put on the costume and then role-play like he's saving them. The visuals you usually see for this fetish are photomanipulations of hunky guys making out in translucent, skin-tight costumes, so this is the first time I've ever seen it done with twinks. But honesty, if I had a superhero fetish and I saw a site like this I would probably be very excited. And it's done in a very tongue-in-cheek style the way the old Batman series was done in the 70's with Adam West. And there's real sex going on, so I hardly think it's done in a derogatory way. Why go through all that trouble? Just my two cents. :)
Having said all that, all the exit traffic goes to straght sites. Isn't that a little out of place for a gay site? Or is that some sort of cross-promoting?
why go through all that trouble? because the people shooting the content are being paid by the site owner.
i do see the appeal of campy super hero - who didn't love batman and robin - but i guess i'm missing something once again but i REALLY don't see this as that. that's okay - i don't have to perceive everything correctly *lol*
I can see your point of view, Basschick. I'm looking forward to see what everyone else thinks about this. :)
as a twink lover i think this site is lame.
as a webmaster i can see the appeal to certain markets.
however i wont promote it.
Dawgy - what markets? THAT is what i wanted to know *LOL*
that site is pretty lame.
re the make up
i think it's a cute novelty site. It's not going to have a huge retention, but then again, 2-3 months is the average now anyway.
People were offended when baitbus came out. Granted this is no baitbus, it's not meant to be. I know the people who created the site. Actually, I think they pulled it off. I don't think you could do a gay superhero porn site and not be campy.
LOL... C'mon .....
Supertwink is comedy sex site... try not to read more into it than just that. :^)
Sure it's not for everybody... but what site is?
I ran some E mail and TGP tests and ST converted quite well for me....
in the end that is what it all comes down to.
Ounique.. str8 exits? I don't see those here.. if you get a chance LMK what is popping for you.
Gary & Lee.. the board is looking good...
I always look forward to reading what Lee posts :)
Have a good one...
Richard / Bangwang
richard @ silvercash . com
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Thanks for taking your time to reply to this topic Richard its apreciated :)
Thank you Sir :)Quote:
Gary & Lee.. the board is looking good...
Me thinks you need to get out of the office more ;)Quote:
I always look forward to reading what Lee posts :)
Hope you post more often too we always love getting input from the primarily straight webmasters / companies on our community :)
Regards,
Lee
See now that you said thats what it was i can see it however, IMHO this needs to be made more apparent i think.Quote:
Originally posted by Bangwang
Supertwink is comedy sex site... try not to read more into it than just that. :^)
As it looks right now its almost as if you are trying to make fun of the gay community via the generalized stereotypes and, whilst we know this isnt what you are doing it may also look that way to surfers especially once the general webmaster populous start putting their own marketing 'spin' on the site.
Regards,
Lee
Lee, I think us fags have thicker skin then what you're giving us credit for. C'mon we live in an era of queer as folk and queer eye for the straight guy. You don't get any more stereotypical then that. And with those shows there are many gay men that are offended, which quite frankly those type of upidy fags needs to pull the stick out of their ass and replace it with something more useful.Quote:
Originally posted by Lee
See now that you said thats what it was i can see it however, IMHO this needs to be made more apparent i think.
As it looks right now its almost as if you are trying to make fun of the gay community via the generalized stereotypes and, whilst we know this isnt what you are doing it may also look that way to surfers especially once the general webmaster populous start putting their own marketing 'spin' on the site.
Regards,
Lee
Apparently we dont even when it comes to programs such as Queer Eye...
http://forums.gaywidewebmasters.com/...&threadid=2720
Regards,
Lee
campy and attractive like batman and robin and superman = cool and sexy. super twink is not a hunk or a fine and mouthwatering twink boy.
i understand it's meant to be funny, although funny does not equal sexy. if it were funny with sexy and attractive people, i would see a much wider market.
i didn't find it humorous or sexy, but that's only one person out of the entire internet. did it turn anyone on(besides don)?
richard ive always respected you and silvercash, but i honestly dont understand this site. the only people i think that would find this site funny are a bunch of homophobic school boys. i dont say this because im gay, i say it because im an adult. i just dont get it.Quote:
Originally posted by Bangwang
Supertwink is comedy sex site... try not to read more into it than just that. :^)
but in the end, i guess all that matters is that it converts, and you say it does, so thats it.
*shrug*
No, i wouldn't say it turns me on - but half of whats out there doesn't do it for me too. But I don't think it's in anyway offensive either.
I really am not turned on by it. I can see someone with that fetish being into it but, like furries and balloon fetish, it's just not my thing.Quote:
Originally posted by basschick
i didn't find it humorous or sexy, but that's only one person out of the entire internet. did it turn anyone on(besides don)?
The one thing that is sad is that I have seen screen shots of this on other boards where people are laughing at it and really playing on the stereotype of it.
I did go back and double check the exit pop-ups, but they were all gay. Must have been an internet glitch or something. Sorry about that.
i can see the appeal in things that don't turn me on. i promote muscle men, i understand the niche and what turns guys on about it, but it does zero for me personally. same with hairy pussy and big dick. none of that turns me on, but i readily understand the appeal.
the character in this site is a clown. clowns are sexy only to a very small group. most of us are not turned on by them - quite the opposite.
and the guys on other boards have made it clear that this site is a grand opportunity to make fun of "fags" :-(
HAHAHAH that's fucking hilarious!!!! this "twink" needs to change his title to bad drag queen wanna-be!
I'm sure this site will convert crazy.. But seriously, this guy is a turn off for me... totally... with all the make up and pink outfit and stuff... BIG NO NO for me.
Anybody saw that preview with the guy's girlfriend on the second page? Ridiculous!
OK, I"m totally not offended by it, but it's not a turn on at all... for me, to tell you the truth, it's a total turn off... makes me a little ill... but then, so does straight porn, so there you go.
However, the whole flaming gay superhero thing, I honestly think, will probaly convert pretty well... to the same guys that like those silly gay-anime sites and people with rather child-like fetishes.
I'm sure that it would be pretty easy to use those pictures against the gay community, but whatever... it's not like there wouldn't be homophobia if there wasn't that site.
I'm not offended by it at all. It's totally true that we have those types of people (the fag ones, and don't get me started on that one again!) in our community so oh well, for sure some people are gonna use them, mostly if it can make money (good or bad). That's business i guess.
I'm gonna be mean and say we (in general) brought it on ourselves.
I always said that nelly queens or girl-acting guys (meaning they do it in purpose) make the community look bad, so we just have to pay for it, that's all :)
This is what i think so don't try to change my mind or pick a fight LOL
Other than that, this website is stupid.
Just took a look at it and it looks like a f*cking joke to me. I can't see any one wanting to join that site. Oh well, ya never get ahead in this game if you don't try something totally different! Good on ya silvercash for taking the chance, but I think you really missed the target.
I might just bookmark this thread and revisit it in 6 months time to see if it is taken offline or if it is the new big moneymaker.
cheers,
Luke
if instead of super twink in this outfit, they'd have had a hunky action hero type in tights with a cape - and with a mask, perhaps? - it would have all made sense to me.
i would join in a heartbeat!Quote:
Originally posted by basschick
if instead of super twink in this outfit, they'd have had a hunky action hero type in tights with a cape - and with a mask, perhaps? - it would have all made sense to me.
But lets not forget.. for the most part many ompanies who dont actively participate in or have staff who deal with the gay marketplace do beleive that twinks are all that sells.
Regards,
Lee
This looks like... just another gay site developed by a big company with ZERO understanding of the gay market.
But I'm just bitter because so few pay-sites appeal to my surfers. Now we get to promote SuperTwink and a great site like ButtMachineBoys goes dormant. At least SuperTwink is an original concept... gotta give SilverCash credit for that! Now how about a reality site featuring MEN not boys?!
my thoughts exactly
another clueless straight company.
I see sites out there going over the top in almost every arena. I mean can we really take manhunter.com seriously? Another SilverCash site... I think they are just campy and the surfers know this.. and thats why they join...
This obviously isn't a site dedicated to muscular models or macho bears... something that visually excites ...
I have a friend who is one of the models in one of the first scenes located on supertwinks.... he has his own site, is a model in movies for various producers and does live shows w/ camz.com
He has a sense of humor about his own shows... for example dressing up like a bunny with ears and a cotton tail for his easter show...
I can see where some people might feel they are just getting it wrong and making fun because some people really do not know what they are doing...
I for one don't think Derek looks anything like SuperTwink...
Derek you are a hottie!!!! :p
It would certainly be better if there were more actual twinks for Super Twink to mess with than just one or two at the most.
But alas, how can you not find this funny?...
http://www.supertwink.com/teasercons...&videoType=wmv
I think we often take it all to seriously....If str8 people want to come up with something like that and it is converting, then let them.......if they have gay issues, then let them have gay issues too. I have to say that I watched a clip and laughed b/c it was so lame; however, I did watch it, and I can actually see some consumers being interested in this......
This is just my opinion..that's what we are looking for on here.right?;)
hi, scott!
yes, opinions are what threads like this are all about. i have to add something here. i was with a friend leaving the clubs in weho one night. we had walked past the abby very late and very much alone when guys came running at us with baseball bats screaming they were going to kill us fags (i'm not even a man!). luckily they chose to do this as i got to my car, and we jumped in, locked the doors, and i peeled out.
my point? perpetuating a stereotype in a world full of hate really can allow the ignorance to continue to fester. there was a time when white people really lynched black people in the south, and no legal action would be taken. ignorance is the most expensive thing there is.
Well that is about the stupidest thing I've ever seen. Whatever turns your crank.
Lee...I don't think that's a fair comparrison. Granted, there are a lot of things I find offensive about shows like "Queer Eye"...but there's a marked difference in a show about 5 guys who are actually gay playing up gay stereotypes....and a show that's being touted as "a heterosexual man's worst nightmare...having to pretend to be gay"Quote:
Originally posted by Lee
Apparently we dont even when it comes to programs such as Queer Eye...
http://forums.gaywidewebmasters.com/...&threadid=2720
Regards,
Lee
Jason it wasnt meant to be a comparision by any means mearly point out that some of us also dont like the shows like Queer Eye that perpetuate these stereotypes even further than they are already.Quote:
Originally posted by 123Jason
Lee...I don't think that's a fair comparrison.
Especially since it was mentioned in an earlier post the a lot of 'us' dont have problems with shows like QE when in fact, it would appear from that thread that a lot of us actually do ;)
Regards,
Lee