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The ones that have the most violence and terrorism in them?
Israel, Palestine, Former Yugoslavia, Columbia, Beruit, Turkey, etc...
All of these places are absolutely gorgeous and they all seem to be devastated by destruction, from terrorist groups or the countries governments.
What is it about countries with some of the best natural beauty in the world turning themselves in to piles of dirt?
Regards,
Lee
religion
Drug wars have nothing to do with religion though ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmax
Regards,
Lee
I think the most beautiful places on the planet are mostly uninhabitable. The desert around Phoenix, the Rocky Mountains, Alaska, rain forests, and beach front property that gets wiped out by hurricanes to name a few. Chicago land is not really a beautiful area, but millions live there because it was close to food, water, and transportation. Montana is incredible but not really that well populated.
I think religion has a lot to do with the strife, but also a strange sense of Us vs. Them and This is Our Farmland. Fear of "others" that are not like "us" is an unfounded reason for strife --just look at how immigration is an issue in the United States. The neocons seem to hate brown people moving in, but Mexicans have strong religious beliefs and strong family values -- things the neocons claim to support but they don't like brown people who hold the same beliefs.
My solution is 3 fold:
1. Government needs to be secular -- no religious influences. Teach children math, science, history, and languages in school and if children need religious training they can get that at home or in their parents church. If children need to pray they can pray before school, at lunch, or between classes but religion has no place in schools or government.
2. Legalize pot. People who smoke pot do not get in fights. They also relax and have sex. Relaxation and sex reduce stress, and stress reduction reduces fighting.
3. Legalize prostitution. How many suicide bombers would stay home if they just got laid more often??
I know that writing this prevents me from ever running for president or being appointed to the Supreme Court.
They can take my pen from me when they pull it from my cold dead hand.
Colombia is the most georgeous country I have been to date yet it is iniltratred by rebellion troops. Turkey... I am really wondering why it it on your list because I can not see devestation or the amount of terrorism as in the rest of your list and we are owning a flat there for little more then 20 yrs now :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Lee
Anyways... Liberia and Sierra Leone should be on your list. Yesterday we saw a documentation about them two and the footage was awesome; rain forests with broad rivers, sandy beaches and the civil war which still seems to be going on. Freetown and Monrovia are probably the cities you recognize.
Hell Chad...with those three changes I'd TOTALLY vote for you!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by chadknowslaw
okay, we'll i'd probably vote for you regardless...but i'm all for your campaign!!
:yeah:
I'm afraid your career in politics is over, Chad. Your rebellious ideas would improve our country one hundred fold. Now tell me, who's going to profit??? If you have a society where people get along and everything works smoothly the high muckity mucks will not be able to make millions off of the cattle... oops, I mean people. Keeping religion in schools ensures fighting and hatred between those of differing beliefs and especially between the righteous and the sinners, making sure it becomes learned in schools and carried out in society. And while we can tax the sale of alcohol, we know people aren't going to go through the trouble of building a still in their basements but if we legalize pot, who's to say everyone won't grow their own. They make more through fines and arrests than they would through taxation. It's not about bettering the country it's about making a buck.Quote:
Originally Posted by chadknowslaw
I'm in a bad mood today, can you tell?
And while I'm on a roll. I remember back in the 90's I went to see Pink Floyd at Three Rivers Stadium in Pittsburgh. There was tailgating and people were having a wonderful time. Everyone was making friends and being happy and yes, the smell of herb was wafting through the air, as is frequent at a Pink Floyd concert. Everything was peaceful and everyone was just there to enjoy the show and feel good. Next thing you know the cops were there. Not only where they handing out citations, they had actually erected a makeshift court somewhere in the stadium. They were pulling people out of the concert for smoking pot, charging and sentencing them on the spot and then returning them to a concert they paid highly for but would not enjoy. The following week the Pittsburgh Steelers had a football game. The legal consumption of alcohol was quite prevalent and the cops turned a blind eye on the open beers in the parking lot because it was all in the name of "team spirit". People got drunk, there were fist fights over disagreements in teams, there were people being rowdy, people vomiting, people getting injured, and destruction of property. But that was okay. Team spirit and legal alcohol. I know it's an old story but sadly, nothing has changed. Alcohol is still legal and pot isn't. I don't even smoke pot but I think the fact that it isn't legal is the stupidest thing.
I think Jamaica is beautiful, and there's no fighting or destruction down there because they're all too poor and stoned to fight or own a gun. I've gone there several times and love it, and the scuba diving off the coast on the eastern side of the island is breathtaking.
Seriously? You have never heard of the in-fighting in Jamaica?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ethan Masters
The slums of jamaica are some of the most violent going, do a search on Google you will find lots of stories about people getting killed for no apparent reason in Jamaica.
Regards,
Lee
Yeah, and don't dare tell them you're gay. Some guys were gay bashed there awhile ago and their government basically made a statement saying something to the effect that they were being told they had to apologize but didn't want to because the gay men shouldn't have come there in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee
Being gay is against their religion, which is fine because it's their life/country/religion. I had traveled all across the country and never heard of any instances of violence or random murders, so I consider myself fortunate to enjoy the true beauty of the country without the negativity behind it. As far as the gay thing goes, just don't wear a sign around your head and you should be fine :)
Oh, I see. It's against their religion. So it's okay for them to beat visiting tourists and guests who don't abide by their religion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ethan Masters
And about not wearing a sign on your head... how about I don't give my money to a country that promotes violence against homosexuals. And you know, I don't think anyone should have to hide their homosexuality anywhere they go.
Fuck Jamaica!
You want a nice tropical island with great scuba diving then go to Puerto Rico!
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My solution is 3 fold:
1. Government needs to be secular -- no religious influences. Teach children math, science, history, and languages in school and if children need religious training they can get that at home or in their parents church. If children need to pray they can pray before school, at lunch, or between classes but religion has no place in schools or government. Or if you haveta teach, tell kids it's OK to be gay!!!
2. Legalize pot. People who smoke pot do not get in fights. They also relax and have sex. Relaxation and sex reduce stress, and stress reduction reduces fighting.
3. Legalize prostitution. How many suicide bombers would stay home if they just got laid more often??
I know that writing this prevents me from ever running for president or being appointed to the Supreme Court.
They can take my pen from me when they pull it from my cold dead hand.[/QUOTE]
Right on!!! Most of that is already in place in Canada --- and we can also get married if you are especially vanilla ... :groovy:
Interesting enough there bud, i'm hoping to go to Puerto Rico early next year, followed by 2 weeks in Europe with my boy. =)Quote:
Originally Posted by MiamiB
My boyfriend is from Puerto Rico and I have been there 6 times with him so if you need any suggestions of what to see while there just hit me back.
You will love it and it IS a gay friendly destination!
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Originally Posted by Bodhi
If Canada had Mexico's weather, I would have moved years ago. However, my snow allergy prevents me from extended stays!!
I would be VERY happy if Canada would annex Washington, Oregon, California, Arizona and New Mexico. In return, the US could annex Alberta.
I think Japan is one of the most beautiful countries in the world. And while it certainly is peaceful now, 60 years ago was quite a different story.
Good point Angel! The eastern and southern United States was not so peaceful in 1863 either. And while Amsterdam is wonderful today, in 1942 it was not a good place to look Jewish. Spain was not such a great spot during its civil war.Quote:
Originally Posted by 703_Angel
Heh, you have the exact same outlook on canada as I do Chad, right on, lol. A good friend of mine lives in Niagra Falls and their weather is pretty much identical to ours here in Ohio, but yeah... HEAT!!! NEED MORE HEAT!!!
Hehe - Germany is nice to - and it was nice back then ... just a little... well... exciting to travel I guess :DQuote:
Originally Posted by 703_Angel
BUT you could've gone to Monaco, Nice, Paris etc and still be in "Germany" - how weired is THAT? :D
the map (edit: forgot to post link http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...942_map_de.png) shows germany 1942 during the war against russia (blue is germany, german occupied terrerories and german allys, red on the other hand are THE Allies agains Germany et all)
Oh btw: the Airport Berlin Tegal will close this October 30th - whoever vists Venus in October should go there and take a glimpse at the monumental architecture - it IS indeed intimidating - they had good marketing personell back then, the branding and recognition is superior :D hehe
Well, I don't think it was so nice back then. And you were certainly only "free" to travel if you wore one of those uniforms and only to places you were send to fight. Otherwise your blockwart might have approved a week on a KdF vessel, but only if you were a party member, behaving well and of course not gay. If you were gay your most likely trip would have been a one way tour to a concentration camp. Personally I think Germany would fit perfectly to Lee's list in those days some 70 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by DEVELISH
Oh, and the airport that gets closed is Tempelhof, not Tegel. Tegel is up for closure in a couple of years when the new airport is opened. So there is still plenty of time to visit Tegel. But when I think about it there is actually no reason to visit Tegel except for flying in or away.