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http://www.thesword.com/index.php/sk...orn-stars.html
I dont know, call me a prude but i really think this is crossing the line.
Have we really hit a level in the porn business where we have to make our content seem illegally extreme to sell?
Your thoughts on this? I really dont know what else to say other than im actually quite disgusted this concept ever came to fruition.
There are some things that should never be merged with porn and for me this is one of them.
Regards,
Lee
My personal belief is that so long as only consenting adults are involved, no lines are crossed. Everything else is a moral boundary that shifts depending on who wants to draw the line.
Hon, that is not necrophilia! Necrophilia is sex with dead bodies -- from what I saw in the trailer, there is none of that. There appears to be a lot of violence and killing but not in sex scenes or in a sexual way at all.
That is NOT necrophilia Lee~
Actually Chad, it isnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by chadknowslaw
Necrophilia is a sexual attraction to corpses, actual 'sex' does not have to be involved.
Regards,
Lee
True, but there is no necrophilia in the video you linked to~Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee
You think all the dead bodies arent a veiled attempt at marketing to those who are interested in necrophilia? Come on Chad, you genuinely can not beleive that.Quote:
Originally Posted by chadknowslaw
Just like you wouldnt be naive enough to think a site full of 7+8 year olds wearing swimsuits wasnt a veiled attempt at marketing to the **** crowd.
Regards,
Lee
Actually, no I don't believe that video is a veiled attempt at marketing to persons interested in necrophilia. The sex and violence are too separated for that kind of connection. But, I've been wrong before and I am sure I will be wrong many times in the future. I just don't believe this video contains content that appeals to someone interested in necrophilia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lee
I wholeheartedly agree with you that a site full of kids in speedos is marketed right at pedos.
But a porn movie full of dead people isnt marketed at necrophiliacs?Quote:
Originally Posted by chadknowslaw
Regards,
Lee
NO, I don't believe so. (see disclaimer above where I admit to being wrong on a regular basis)
I am certainly no expert on the elements of necrophilia, but I don't believe quick death scenes interspersed into a full length video are enough to appeal to an interest in necrophilia. There is too much separation, and the presentation of death in those scenes is not sexual.
It appears they added sex scenes to a typical John Wayne-style western.
Meh.
Nothing I'm interested in seeing, but I've also held my tongue on the countless borderline-rape fetish sites (someone just released a site called "Twinks In Pain") so I'll just not promote this, think it's a bit tacky and in rather poor taste and move on.
I do get a bit freaked that there will be people turned on my a trailer that seems to have no sex but a lot of murders in it.
I like that trailer! way cool!!!!
As far as necrophilia is concerned in the context of that trailer, I see absolutely nothing wrong with it.
"But a porn movie full of dead people isnt marketed at necrophiliacs?"
No. I remember seeing the movie "The Condemned" where a guy raped a woman then blew her up with a grenade. It was in theaters, on DVD and On Demand. The "Wrong Turn" series of movies combines murder, sex and violence. Didn't the "Friday the 13th" series do that as well?
The taboos with sex, violence, and death in America are so bizarre. Nicolas Cage starred the movie "8mm" which was solely based on snuff films. go figure
Do you think my SleepingMen site is a borderline rape fetish site? So many people have different opinions on the niche and I always like hearing different outlooks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasun
And just for the record for anyone who might wonder.. the referenced trailer here didn't turn me on, but I thought the content was compelling, it was well shot and the trailer was put together well enough for me to watch the whole thing, which for me is a big accomplishment :develish:
Here is Chris Ward's response to the controversy over mixing violence with sex:
http://www.lavenderlounge.com/blog/2..._sex_rape.html
-In the DVD extras you can select to only watch the sex scenes.
-Cowboy movies from Hollywood are nothing BUT violence.
-There is no reference to necrophilia in the movie.
Of course. That's what it is. It's not even borderline. It's a site where the fetish is violating men who are asleep. You may as well own it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Squirt
I know that they're really awake and that it's all planned and I'm not coming down on you for it.
But it is what it is. I think it's relatively harmless when compared to a porn movie that sells itself my showing no porn but lots of dead bodies and blood and the actual act of murder.
Weird, eh?
By the way.. I don't see Necrophilia in that trailer. But I do see them advertising to a rather disturbed demographic. Not sure how comfortable I'd be with that.
Yeah what exactly the trailer is trying to sell is weird, and a bit intriguing. They're getting what they wanted... people debating what the actual content is, and waiting to see. that's the point of marketing I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasun
Right I own my sites for what they are and the sleepingmen site is based on the Somnophilia fetish, not rape or incest, but I totally get how some people come to the conclusions they do and I'm completely fine with that.
You're right it's definitely mild compared to most of what's out there. I'd be more shocked by fisting then a guy getting jacked off pretending to be asleep :goatse: bleah!
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Originally Posted by Jasun
I would assume that demographic to include many of the same people that paid good money to see:
Hostel where young students who checked into a cheap rooming house were sadistically tortured and murdered
Texas Chainsaw Massacre which is a dramatized version of a true story about young people being sadistically tortured and murdered
Saw 1-50 which is a series of movies about people being forced to self-mutilate, torture, and violent death
Just to name a few. I am no fan of blood and guts movies but they bring a lot of people to the theaters; I know that not all of them are disturbed.
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Originally Posted by Squirt
SQUIRT nails it!!!