I made a free site to try to fund my projects, and so far it hasn't made shit!
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Anyone have any advice on what I can do to actually make a sale or two?
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I made a free site to try to fund my projects, and so far it hasn't made shit!
Huge & Uncut
Anyone have any advice on what I can do to actually make a sale or two?
Well, I would say from looking at it that the site would need more traffic. Doesn't seem to have any links. You might also want to add more text to it and try for some search traffic.
It's not the content, because that is pretty freak'n hot. Maybe it's the sponsors you picked? (Don't know if that would be it, but I know randy's site converts well.)
make some one page wonders... primarily all text...
with appropriate Keywords... linked to the site
and get those pages listed in the SE's
make a hub page for all the url's to all your 1-pagers
and stick that hub page url ON the site you just showed us...
good luck...
~Bell
Well as i know the Stud Money sites you are using on the site do convert for 90% of our affiliates i would have to say it is a trafic issue.
Looking at the account in all honesty the amount of hits being sent is nominal so i would work on getting the traffic levels up personally.
Build some free sites, some tgp galleries and submit the to the appropriate traffic sources and you should see your overall conversions increase :)
Regards,
Lee
hi jay looking at your site id say the content is fine im pretty new to the gay niche usually working on straight or fetish sies i would agree with what bell and andy said add a few bits of text around your pages another thing is you might be giving away to much content surfers wont join the sponsors if they can get what they need of you
you can take a look at my sites if you want the majority of my traffic comes from link exchanges
http://www.mohoneys.com
http://soiledcotton.com
trading is vital for pr and always helps with traffic ive just started http://real-gay-porn.com which i can trade links with you
your site looks great though so the more traffic means a better chance of making a sale:groovy:
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Originally posted by honeys
hi jay looking at your site id say the content is fine im pretty new to the gay niche usually working on straight or fetish sies i would agree with what bell and andy said add a few bits of text around your pages another thing is you might be giving away to much content surfers wont join the sponsors if they can get what they need of you
you can take a look at my sites if you want the majority of my traffic comes from link exchanges
http://www.mohoneys.com
http://soiledcotton.com
trading is vital for pr and always helps with traffic ive just started http://real-gay-porn.com which i can trade links with you
your site looks great though so the more traffic means a better chance of making a sale:groovy:
nice sites...
honeys... I read your profile... is your DOB correct ??
if so - I think you may very well be the OLDEST webmaster
we've had in here... that's so TOTALLY cool...
is it correct ?? Were you born in 1929 ??
also I noticed this:
http://soiledcotton.com/webmasters.htm
I don't see our's:
Gay Wide Webmasters
http://forums.gaywidewebmasters.com/
(smile)
~Bell
This coming from the lady who deosn't have a brthday listed in her profile? Hmmmmm LMAOQuote:
Originally posted by Bell
nice sites...
honeys... I read your profile... is your DOB correct ??
if so - I think you may very well be the OLDEST webmaster
we've had in here... that's so TOTALLY cool...
is it correct ?? Were you born in 1929 ??
Quote:
Originally posted by Lee
Well as i know the Stud Money sites you are using on the site do convert for 90% of our affiliates i would have to say it is a trafic issue.
Looking at the account in all honesty the amount of hits being sent is nominal so i would work on getting the traffic levels up personally.
Build some free sites, some tgp galleries and submit the to the appropriate traffic sources and you should see your overall conversions increase :)
Regards,
Lee
According to my StudMoney stats I have a 1:1,254 sales ratio.
So I guess my goal should be to try to send studmoney 1,000 hits a day and hope for a sale a day. At $15 a pop that won't pay the bills, but it would be damn nice!
You definitely need to increase the amount of traffic you send in daily. And that's to any sponsor program. Most of the webmasters sending in 100-200 hits a day make a sale or two a day. Go under that then you're playing a wishing game.Quote:
Originally posted by DigitalJay
According to my StudMoney stats I have a 1:1,254 sales ratio.
So I guess my goal should be to try to send studmoney 1,000 hits a day and hope for a sale a day. At $15 a pop that won't pay the bills, but it would be damn nice!
GA
I have no money to spend on site promotion, and the idea of playing the TGP game gives me a headache. I guess i'm sca-rewed. Back to the drawing board lol. It's not that i'm not willing to put work into something, but flipping burgers honestly sounds more fun than the "mass produce, repeat" process.
thats right i was 75 in january what can i say ive always loved porn wheezeQuote:
Originally posted by Bell
nice sites...
honeys... I read your profile... is your DOB correct ??
if so - I think you may very well be the OLDEST webmaster
we've had in here... that's so TOTALLY cool...
is it correct ?? Were you born in 1929 ??
also I noticed this:
http://soiledcotton.com/webmasters.htm
I don't see our's:
Gay Wide Webmasters
http://forums.gaywidewebmasters.com/
(smile)
~Bell
just kidding dont think i had my contacts in should be 1979
and i will get that link up now but i dont do that for just anyone hmmm that sounded bad didnt it lol
When people say this to me all I can do is laugh.Quote:
Originally posted by DigitalJay
I have no money to spend on site promotion, and the idea of playing the TGP game gives me a headache. I guess i'm sca-rewed. Back to the drawing board lol. It's not that i'm not willing to put work into something, but flipping burgers honestly sounds more fun than the "mass produce, repeat" process.
Why is it that people come into this business thinking they can make money without spending any or doing some old fashioned hard work.
Can you imagine someone opening a flower shop or shoe store and telling you that they don't plan on spending a dime on promotion and think licking stamps and sending out flyers is boring and repetitive work so they must be screwed? Good grief.
I spend a lot of time helping people make money with adult websites and enjoy helping newbies, but I have zero tolerance for the ones that bitch that they aren't making any money and then admit that they aren't willing or can't afford to spend any money and think it's too much trouble to work the TGPs, do SEO, develop trades and all the other things the rest of us all do.
If you know anyone that doesn't spend any money and doesn't do any work and still makes money in this business, please tell me who it is so I can become their friend and hopefully find out their secret.
P.S. I think you misread his post Gary-Alan, because he said he's converting at 1:1254. If as you suggest he was sending 200 hits a day and getting 1 signup a day, he would have had 6 sales.
1:1254 is pretty poor unless all the traffic he's getting is coming from TGPs and somehow the galleries he's using are misleading and people click to look at your sites thinking they are going to get to seee some more free pics or something. It sounds like a converting problem rather that his lack of traffic.
I didn't misreading anything. I didn't want to get into the details on the amount day/months that the number entailed. Re Read what I wrote and you MAY get a clue to what I'm alluding to.Quote:
Originally posted by Hammer
P.S. I think you misread his post Gary-Alan, because he said he's converting at 1:1254. If as you suggest he was sending 200 hits a day and getting 1 signup a day, he would have had 6 sales.
Don't assume.
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Originally posted by honeys
thats right i was 75 in january what can i say ive always loved porn wheeze
just kidding dont think i had my contacts in should be 1979
and i will get that link up now but i dont do that for just anyone hmmm that sounded bad didnt it lol
1979 instead of 1929
that is a BIF difference... LOL....
thanks for putting us (GWW) at the top of
your list here:
http://soiledcotton.com/webmasters.htm
that IS where we belong BTW
at the top...
so be sure and keep us UP there...
LOL...
thanks sweets...
~Bell
p.s. on your content for SoiledCotton.com
do you produce that yourself, or purchase it ??
and - if you do purchase it - do you happen upon
sets that are so PERFECT for your domain name,
or do you request those panty props and poses
to the content provider(s) ??
Hammer,
I'm not "comming into" this business, i've been doing it as a sort of hobby since the mid 90s and seriously on and off (mostly off) since 99. I HAVE put all that work into it, built up an empire, and let it die. I was making enough to make ANYONE happy too, without ever spending a penny. The market has changed though and i'm not willing to go through all that again anymore as I have ADD and can't make myself do something I despise.
I was referring to TGP anyway, not SEO or traffic trades!
And that amount of traffic was sent over about a 5 month period. I didn't realise that made a different, but obviously it does. The traffic more or less all came from BD's JG site and a few other random places. (so yeah I guess you could say it was TGP traffic) thus turning me off even more to the idea. I'm thankful though, without that traffic I would have made nothing!
DigitalJay - Maybe I'm wrong but I could swear I saw you post the other day that you were 24 so since you've been doing this since the mid 90s that means you started running porn sites when you were about 15 or 16?
Gary-Alan - I didn't assume anything but I've never been very good at reading between the lines or minds. ;)
Yep, that's right. Well 17. I couldn't make any money off of it though b/c of my age, was just a hobby. After 18 tho I started making bank at UGAS and GayMen.com.
I had a computer store, so when it closed for the night, my friend Kyle would put on a big "Porn Theater" using my big screen tv, half the highschool's kids would pile into my store and watch porn while I made free sites on the internet. Good times! *sigh*
If I wasn't doing that I'd hit all the lights, turn on the stereo, put strobe and flashing color programs on all the computers, put on my skates, and roller disco until I dropped!
It was right on Main St; I can just see the towns people doing a double take driving by and seeing me inside flying around waving my hands!
hi bell glad you like it all the content was free from sponsors it just took a while to find the sets i wanted the props were all made on photoshop by lil o me lol:grin:Quote:
Originally posted by Bell
1979 instead of 1929
that is a BIF difference... LOL....
thanks for putting us (GWW) at the top of
your list here:
http://soiledcotton.com/webmasters.htm
that IS where we belong BTW
at the top...
so be sure and keep us UP there...
LOL...
thanks sweets...
~Bell
p.s. on your content for SoiledCotton.com
do you produce that yourself, or purchase it ??
and - if you do purchase it - do you happen upon
sets that are so PERFECT for your domain name,
or do you request those panty props and poses
to the content provider(s) ??
my thread is being hijacked! :shifty:
But isnt reading between the lines what this industry is about ;) LOLQuote:
Originally posted by Hammer
Gary-Alan - I didn't assume anything but I've never been very good at reading between the lines or minds. ;)
Regards,
Lee