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I know this producer who shoots Gay content in West Hollywood and he's always trying to recruit straight guys to do Gay content. He is always telling me how common it is for straight guys to do gay porn for the $$$ I don't know any "straight" guys that would dream of doing gay porn for the money. What do you think ?
Peter North did ;)
Regards,
Lee
No thx mate. I can work with the niche but not be a active part in a movie ;)
Yes they most certainly do! Most will pose from solo jackoff stills and video but many will do hardcore stuff. ChiChi LaRue has been well known for years to have a steady stable of new "straight" boys living with him and using them in his movies. "Gay for Cash" is what they are referred to in the business. Personally I find it hard to believe a guy who takes cock up his ass could be straight, but a straight guy can easy fuck a guy. I know this for a fact as my years of Naval service proved it -- once out to sea for a month or so, my ass and mouth were the busiest places on that ship.
Apprently a good portion of the stuff coming out of Prague and William Higgins studios is using gay-for-pay.
I've also heard that the model wanna-be's are standing outside the studio door every morning waiting for their Casting Couch audition, hoping they'll make it big like Pavel Novotny.
I don't know how true this all is, but I have heard elsewhere that straight guys doing gay porn isn't all that uncommon on the other side of the Atlantic. They just have very different attitudes about sex in Europe.
So yes, I buy some of it. As far as these college guy sites where they've got three college straight guys sitting in a bath tub together, I don't know if I'm believing it.
It's one thing to be approached by Chi Chi LaRue and get all star-stuck by the possibilities of it all, but being approached by a lone-website owner who can or might pay you what? a couple of hundred? I don't know how straight I'd be.
Cheers
Dzinerbear
I think it's pretty common. I knew a guy personally, who was straight would perform in gay porn for the cash. I also know a guy who is gay that performed in some straight porn. :)
almost every guy ive shot was straight.
and i know a lot who are willing
so yes.
Just as I think there are a buttload of gay guys being presented and advertised on sites and in movies as "straight" ("ohhh poor me never had anything beyond my doctor's index finger up my bum but lo and behold here I am gettin' a train run on my arse in my first ever gay flick!!!" PFFFT!"), I also think there is an ample supply of genuinely straight guys in both solo and hardcore gay porn.
It's easy money. And as Michael said, Eastern Europe sees a lot of it especially. The vast majority of guys in the content produced their are straight but perfectly willing and eager to have sex with other guys for cash and have fun doing it. Just don't expect them to settle down with another guy, 2.3 kids and a white picket fence anytime soon. Different attitudes, as he pointed out. I know for a fact that Bel Ami makes an extra effort to recruit straight guys as they're just easier for them to work with. Gay models end up getting too emotionally involved with other models, relationships, breakups, drama, too much sex outside of the studio (safety issue), and so forth to be entirely worth it, especially with a ready supply of straight models handy.
As far as stateside, attitudes are changing and that contributes to a greater willingless. But mostly it comes down to the world's biggest standard - cash. It gets a lotta people to do what they might not otherwise do.
I can say from personal experience in college - in my fraternity for example - and from my time in the military that there's no shortage of straight guys willing to experiment and fiddle about but who are nonetheless entirely and honestly straight. Throw money in to the mix and even more of em will pop out of the woodwork.
"there's no shortage of straight guys willing to experiment and fiddle about but who are nonetheless entirely and honestly straight. Throw money in to the mix and even more of em will pop out of the woodwork."
Okay, I get this, I understand there are a lot straight guys willing to experiment, but what I'm finding amazing is that they're willing to do it on camera, for the entire world to see.
Has being called a faggot lost its sting? Have we progressed this far?
Michael
interesting
I think it's a combo of different factors. With a lot of the Eastern European producers its the impression and by in large reality that very little of the content will be sold/released in Eastern Europe proper and thus won't "come back to bite em in the ass", so to speak.Quote:
Originally posted by Dzinerbear
Has being called a faggot lost its sting? Have we progressed this far?
Michael
Here in the US it's the idea that it won't really be seen, they don't care, the money offsets that worry, and they just don't think it thoroughly through to that point.
I know some hot guys that are straight, but do gay porn all day long. One of the studios I handle pretty much only shoots straight men. Some how he will talk them into doing all kinds of things.
;)
For a lot of guys, the biggest leap to take is whether or not to do porn in the first place. Once that's over and done with the jump to gay is relatively not as big of one. Know what I mean?
I also know plenty of straight guys who are more than willing to do solo on gay sites - knowing full well they'll be on gay sites viewed by gay men and oftentimes nude and doin their thing around other guys - but never go beyond solo.
It really just varies from individual to individual. But there are just enough individuals out there on the whole that potential straight hardcore candidates exist to be found.
years ago, i had several straight friends who were living pretty much on the streets of west hollywood. they got off the street by letting guys suck their cocks for money - not on video, but hey - they might have if it had been offered. they were very broke and horny - apparently a potent combination.
if you close your eyes, it all feels good ;-)
All I have to say is look at this site - pretty much shows cash buys straight guys.
Straight College Men
Cheers,
Allan
80% of our boys are straight, and MORE than willing.Quote:
Originally posted by WWC-Mahoney
I know this producer who shoots Gay content in West Hollywood and he's always trying to recruit straight guys to do Gay content. He is always telling me how common it is for straight guys to do gay porn for the $$$ I don't know any "straight" guys that would dream of doing gay porn for the money. What do you think ?
At the young age of many boys are just sexual and will do anything watching a lesbian porn video to take their minds off it. They are also natuarlly still inquisitive about their sexuality.
The money is simply the clincher.
:biker:
Just because a guy says he's straight or believes he's straight and tries to convince himself of it every chance he gets by using foul language, smoking cigars and womanizing, doesn't mean he's straight.
Sorry to burst so many bubbles here but you have 3 options.
1. Straight - The idea of having sex with the same sex is totally incomprehensible and no amount of money would make you do it.
2. Gay - The idea of having sex with the opposite sex is totally incomprehensible and no amount of money would make you do it.
3. Bisexual - You prefer one sex over the other but like having sex with either depending on the occasion.
There are not varying degrees of being straight. You either are or you're not. If you like having sex with women and swear on a stack of bibles that you aren't gay and yet you are willing to suck a man's cock or let him stick his in your ass because someone pays you a few hundred bucks... you're bi.
hammer - you are usually very sure of your opinions - believe it or not, you could be wrong. according to kinsey and many other researchers, you are.
when i was younger and sort of wild, i would go out with my friend who was gay and had a blazer. we would pick up the guys on his brother's baseball team, offer them a ride home. then we'd drive out to a field (this was years ago, we were all 16 or under and none of the guys had successfully ever been laid yet) and offer them sex with me if he could suck their dicks. we did every single guy on the team but the brother! we also did a couple replacement players.
btw, hammer - because most straight guys love seeing girls together, i know a LOT of straight girls who have had sex with other girls who would never have otherwise. many didn't enjoy it, but they faked it for the sake of some man. some found it unpleasant - but they did it because they were pressured by their husbands or boyfriends. also i know girls who had sex with anotehr girl because there was some really desirable guy (usually a rock star)who wanted to watch them with another girl.
You know what, on my latin sites, 60% of the models we use are Str8, with girlfriends, or wifes. Some will not do m2m sex, but will jo with other guys. 1 of the studios I work with is 90% straight men that do try sex with other men because the money is good. I know straight porn stars that will fuck trannies because the money is good. I know hustlers in LA that are straight, but for some $ will let all kinds of gay men suck dat dick and fuck them queens right up the butt.. Again because the cash is good.
Hammer is right to a point. MOST str8 people will not have sex with the same sex. However, if you pay them enough, they will take them money and do it REAL fast.
I've seen it time and time again.
This is total bullshit. I'm gay as they come. Never done it with a woman, in fact, the first time I saw a straight porn movie, I nearly threw up during a close-up. I mean no disrepect here, but personally, I found it repulsive.Quote:
Originally posted by Hammer
There are not varying degrees of being straight. You either are or you're not. If you like having sex with women and swear on a stack of bibles that you aren't gay and yet you are willing to suck a man's cock or let him stick his in your ass because someone pays you a few hundred bucks... you're bi.
However, if you offered me enough money to do something with a woman, if the money was right, I'd do it. And I would totally be doing it for the money. And in all likelihood, I'd end up trying to talk the woman into straping one on and rolling me over so I could at least pretend.
Cheers
Dzinerbear
I'm going to have to extend your definition of what bisexual is, Hammer. I am bisexual, and it would be hard to define myself as liking one sex over the other at any time. The fact of the matter is, my preference is BOTH sexes, preferably at the same time. :)
As for straight men being able to have sex with another man for whatever reason, I do find it hard to believe, except in the situations where they're on the streets or on drugs and REALLY need the cash fast. Otherwise I think the men are bisexual, and because it's not as politically correct for a man to be bi, they hide it.
I did have a gay husband once. He's still in the closet, so I have some experience to speak of. :)
Which leads me to a question for you all: If a man is in the closet and has sex with women during this closeted period, does that make him bisexual really? Or just in denial?
this reminds me of kids saying "would you suck a dick if someone paid you a million dollars?" who wouldn't?!?!?!?!
if a straight guy's answer really is no, i feel that either he has a LOT of money, is a christian, or is a really twisted up repression case. i mean, even if sucking that dick troubled you, think of all the therapy you could buy with part of a million dollars - and then look at all the money you'd have left over! think of the awful jobs most of us have worked and the misery we had for FAR more hours than one blowjob and FAR less money in two years than a million dollars.
and when you're broke, on the skids, or in deep trouble, wouldn't a few hundred or a thousand look as big as that million?
NikKay - i'd say a closeted guy having sex with women is either bi or (in some cases) gay. depends on whether they're having a good time with women or has to fantasize as hard as possible they're with a guy.
so, fellow gww'ers - is a guy who jacks off with another guy in the room while they both watch - and fantasize about - a straight porn flick straight? bi? what is the exact line one must cross in order to be not straight?
I'm gay but I had sex with a girl as recently as last year. And it didn't gross me out. And I'm not bi. In fact I've had sex with several girls.
The act of sex itself is just physical. Whereas sexuality goes beyond that. Way beyond that.
You're gay, straight, or bi depending on who you're attracted to. Who you're inclined to fall in love with, be intimate with, desire intimacy with, and so forth. It's the emotional element from which sexual orientation is indicated.
Not physical. I could go out and nail 50 chicks right now and I'd still be gay. Because I don't fall in love with girls, am not imtimately attracted to girls, am limited in how emotionally involved I can be with girls.
But I can still bone a grip of them.
Same goes for straight guys. You can be a perfectly secure straight guy and have sex with other guys. Either experimentally or because physical feelings alone are the motivating factor there.
At the core of each of us are inclinations and motivations towards emotional relationships with members of either the opposite sex, same sex, or both sexes. That's what makes us straight, bi or gay.
So indeed, Hammer, I'd have to say your assertion couldn't be further from fact.
This isn't to say that some guys passed off as straight on websites either:
1. are actually gay
2. are actually bi
3. are genuinely straight but just confused or desperate or care a wee too much about money
but it's by no means impossible or implausible to have a perfectly happy straight guy get it on with another guy and their heterosexuality be left intact.
I mean shit, look at straight porn. You're a female in straight porn and it's pretty much assured and required you get it on with another girl now and then. Are we then to assume that the only girls who ever get involved in porn are bi? And that there exists no such thing as a straight or lesbian female porn star?
I would never jack off in a room with another guy while watching a porn flick or for any other reason.
I would not suck a man's cock or let one suck mine for any amount of money, not even a million dollars.
Why? Because I'm straight.
Here's the problem with your reasoning BassChick -- not including the fact that you're a woman and can therefore never know what a man thinks, straight or gay. In order for me to allow a man to suck my cock (successfully), I need to get an erection. If I can get an erection while another man is kneeling in front of me, I'm not straight. Period.
I'm not trying to start a fight here, I'm just telling those of you that claim you photograph straight men that you're not. Just because a guy says he's straight, has a wife and 2 kids, doesn't mean he's straight, especially if he just got finished sucking off some guy while you videotaped him.
To be honest, I think it's funny that a gay man or woman would argue this point with me. How the heck would you know? Oh, you mean because someone told you? :)
Yea, no one knows more then the all knowning hammer....
That's all well and good that your own personal experience would prevent you from ever being able to engage in a sexual act with another guy, Hammer, but believe it or not, not everyone is just like you.
Unless you're suggesting that heterosexual males are the overwhelmed minority among males in the world, there are a great many straight guys out there who have or do engage in sexual acts with other men. Study after study points to it.
You're one single straight guy among most likely many others who can't and would never, ever, have sex with another man. That's all well and good. But your own personal experience doesn't dictate the behavior of the entire demographic you're a part of.
That's just sexist, Hammer. What difference is it whether I'm a woman or a man talking about my experiences with my own sexuality? If I'm a woman, then having sex with a woman doesn't make me gay? But if I'm a man, it does? I don't think my experiences are any different than any man's experiences in determining his sexuality. And furthermore, I think straight porn chicks do lesbian scenes all the time, and would you argue that makes them gay?
I did say I think men are more often bisexual than they admit. And I also said I think there are a lot of "straight living" men who are, in fact, gay. So I am not entirely disagreeing with you. I disagree with your definition of bisexuality, and I have experience in that area.
Now would you answer my question about a closeted man being able to have sex with women?? :)
Hammer - straight? i'd say you're scared.
if a straight guy shuts his eyes and keeps his hands to his sides, he can't even tell what gender is sucking his dick. a blowjob feels good. it is really that simple. and if you close your eyes and think about pamela anderson, it's basically using someone else's mouth as a masturbation tool.
i guess you missed human sexuality and psych 101 in college. i didn't. your strong assertions of fact are not borne out by any book, doctor or counselor. it is not backed up by the personal experiences of people i know. it is just your opinion, not fact.
btw, this is just my opinion, but if you wouldn't suck a dick for a million dollars, i think you have some serious issues. with a condom on that dick, you wouldn't even have to actually touch it, but you say wouldn't do it? a million dollars could pay off your house and put both your daughters through college - and if you wouldn't do something for 10 minutes that paid for all that even if it was unpleasant to you, you have some issues or you're being dishonest.
can you honestly say that you've never done something unpleasant for 20 minutes?
OK. and this is speaking as the guy who shags straight guys on a regular basis.
There are a lot of straight guys who will have sex with a guy.. once... out of curiosity. I'm lucky enough to be the closest guy at the time. This doesn't make them bisexual.. it makes them human with a healthy sexual curiosity. Most of them will never have sex with another guy, won't want to, but won't feel dirty about what they did... many of the gay guys here, myself included, have had sex with women out of curiosity or other motivations.. i don't regret it, I don't feel gross.. I'm just not interested in doing it again. I'm not regularly attracted to women, but I was into it at the time. I had a threesome with two lesbian skinheads once... it was a lot of fun, and the boner I had had nothing to do with being attracted to their bodies, it was being turned on by the situation itself..(I was all tied up and gaggged and helpless... long story... )
Although some guys are so uptight that a million dollars still wouldn't be enough for them to suck a dick, most guys would say "A Million Dollars buys a lot of Mouthwash."
I'd go down on Bea Arthur for a million dollars, but I'm in NO WAY bisexual.
The striaght guys who perform in gay porn are really being praagmatic. Gay porn pays men a LOT more than straight porn pays them, and to them it really is just a job... most of them need to stop tape every couple of minutes to look at porn mags to keep thier erections... they need straight porn for them to concentrate on.. there's lot of things they do to maintain a hard on... they're not turned on by what they're doing... it's just a job. These guys are straight.. they're just not uptight. They're not homophobic... they have a job to do.
BDBionic... You're gay, right? Well you claim you are because you don't fall in love with women but have sex with them just for sport. I guess they appreciate that because you make it known in advance that you have no intention of forming a relationship with them but simply want to have casual sex. Nice.
Definitions:
Homosexual - Of, relating to, or having a sexual orientation to persons of the same sex.
Heterosexual - Sexually oriented to persons of the opposite sex.
I don't see anything in those definitions that allows for some sort of rule that it's ok to have sex with men as long as you don't fall in love with them and still call yourself a heterosexual.
You kinky stud you :biker:
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Originally posted by Jasun
I'd go down on Bea Arthur for a million dollars, but I'm in NO WAY bisexual.
She's like a grandmother to me.Quote:
Originally posted by Jasun
I'd go down on Bea Arthur for a million dollars, but I'm in NO WAY bisexual.
jasun - you're right! a million dollars DOES buy a lot of mouthwash. i pay around $6 a bottle, so i figure you could buy 166, 666 bottles of mouthwash ;-)
Hammer - orientation: Awareness of the objective world in relation to one's self. you can have sex with a person of a certain gender once without being oriented toward that gender. you can vote for a democrat in certain situations without giving up your republican orientation. you can be a comedian but say something dramatic without giving up your comedic orientation.
if a male had sex ONE time with a man, didn't particularly care for it, felt no attraction to men of a sexual or romantic nature, and never bothered to have sex with a man again from disinterest (not personal issues), how homosexual could they be?
according to my college classes and sex researchers, he is straight and was simply curious. sounds like you don't agree - what makes you so sure that you are correct and so many doctors, psychologists, and entire schools of thought and medicine are wrong?
hey - i'd go down on bea arthur for $250,000. in fact, for $250,000 you can all watch.
what can i say? i need content, and that would buy a lot of it ;-)
Bea Arthur content would sell like boob jobs to pornstars!
ya'll are too gross! LOL
See the 'label' i would give them both is...Quote:
Originally posted by basschick
is a guy who jacks off with another guy in the room while they both watch - and fantasize about - a straight porn flick straight? bi? what is the exact line one must cross in order to be not straight?
HOT personally ;)
This discussion took an interesting turn :)
Regards,
Lee
Ya know, I'm a str8 up queer, but for $250,000 I'd do a 4 way with 3 girls on the white house steps and let lee and gary sell pop corn.
Just like the guy in this picture. He was one of 4 men at that shot, all butt naked jacking off. However, for $2000.00 for a 1 hour shot, and one of those lovely blue pills he got hard and came. :specs:
Now he's bissexual right? Cause some man saw him jack off?