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Hello all
like i said in title,i am new in this Gay niche..
i am planing to open an pay site so..what i need...are some honest advices..what sells these days?What gay niche can make decent sales?
Hope i'll get some nice and honest answers,thanx to all in advance!:angel:
Well in the Gay Market pretty much anything can sell if you market it correctly :)
You need to ask yourself what gay market niche YOU think YOU would be best suited to and go from there $0.02
Regards,
Lee
Well,nicely said Lee:)
I know all that,and i am surfing all over the places to figure out what could i do best,but also wanted to hear some advices and comments from webmasters with expiriance,thanx for advice:angel:
Lol... he said 'gay niche'. I think I'll try that 'straight niche' I've heard so much about!Quote:
Originally posted by Lykos
Hello all
like i said in title,i am new in this Gay niche..
i am planing to open an pay site so..what i need...are some honest advices..what sells these days?What gay niche can make decent sales?
Hope i'll get some nice and honest answers,thanx to all in advance!:angel:
Why don't you start with a Twink site first. There is hardly any other twink sites around and a HUGE demand. ;)
Sorry to be pissy about this, but in the future, please don't refer to 'gay' as a niche.
Here is a good list of gay market niches that you can use to assist you in deciding which niche you want to try your hand at.
http://forums.gaywidewebmasters.com/...&threadid=3378
Regards,
Lee
the 'gay niche' is a very different, very unique market. If you have no experience with gay traffic, I would highly suggest NOT opening up a paysite but instead starting out with galleries, free sites, avs/aen sites, etc until you get a firm grasp on how gay traffic behaves and what sells.
cheers,
Luke
Thanx again Lee:)
Xstr8guy...not a problem for been "pissy" like u said:)
Maybe i said something wrong,but like i said i am nw in this,so sorry if i make some mistakes:)
Need to learn a lot i think:angel:
Gay is not a single niche. That's where most straight webmasters (I assume you are) set their doom in stone from day one.
There are factors that go into treating it as such that result in some of the worse sites online.
Also, I just looked at your content site. I hope you are planning on stocking your gay site with guys different than those.
The idea is to make men pay $30/mo to jerk off to the good looking men they can't have. No offense, but your male models are the one's buying the memberships.
I agree with your points, Matt, except I can easily imagine the guys at Lykos content site going into a good, popular pay amateur guy site or reality site.Quote:
Originally posted by Matt 26z
... I just looked at your content site. I hope you are planning on stocking your gay site with guys different than those.
The idea is to make men pay $30/mo to jerk off to the good looking men they can't have. No offense, but your male models are the one's buying the memberships.
I agree with u Mat....
But i am re-designing site right now:)
So many new models will come up shortly...i know they are not top models..but..every content have his buyer,there is always amateur or reallity niche as Fister told..
anyway...i udnmerstand gay have many,mnay sub-niches..that's why i asked here to learnm something before i try something,and all these advices are very helpfull to me!
Once again thanx to all!:angel:
I agree with Fister... I don't agree with what Matt26z is saying. Real amateur type content is definately a hot seller. It is obvious that your models aren't pros, but you can certainly use that to your advantage.Quote:
Originally posted by Matt 26z
Also, I just looked at your content site. I hope you are planning on stocking your gay site with guys different than those.
Some suggestions for you... Start a Platinum/Gold/Premium/Plus AVS site and put all of your amateur content into 5 or 6 different niche galleries (bear/hairy, twink, jock/frat, etc). Then build many regular AVS sites with 1 model per site. Then send all of your regular site AVS traffic to your Platinum AVS site. Be sure to emphasize the fact that these are real amateur men.
This is a good way to build up your empire quickly and find what niches work for you.
Lykos, we just get pissy around here when straight webmasters come in and say they're going to give the "gay niche" a stab. Gay is not a niche like women in high heel shoes, or redheads, or women with big tits that point up. Gay is a whole market divided into hundreds of niches just like the straight side of porn.
We get pissy because it kind of shows an ignorance from the straight community. Kind of like all straight men think gay men want to suck their cocks, or all a gay man needs is a good screw from the right woman.
Probably the easiest way to wrap your brain around this is to think of every straight niche there is, now there is probably a very similar niche in the gay market. For instance, if we go with the high heel niche in the straight market, in the gay market, a lot of guys like sneakers, others like guys in combat boots, others are into more military knee-high boots. One could argue that they're all in one big niche "foot wear" or three sub-niches, or perhaps even three separate and distinct niches.
So to sum up: to throw all gay men into one niche is insulting.
Cheers
Dzinerbear
Btw Lykos...
Shoot some hairy and/or mature men content and Dzinerbear and I will buy some of your content!
Oh... and some hardcore bareback content, too!
Dzinerbear
U get me wrong...my attend was not to insult anyone...u haven't read carefully what i wrote..
i said i want to learn about it and that's why i asked,i never said that gay is one niche...i asked "which gay niche?" wich means that i know there are many just like in straight..
and no i don't think every gay man want to suck straught guya coock right away:)lol
don't worry i have many gay friends and i don't have anything against that,i shooted many gay stuff personally and that's normnal for me..
so can i be here and learn tricks from u?
That's nice:)Quote:
Originally posted by Xstr8guy
Btw Lykos...
Shoot some hairy and/or mature men content and Dzinerbear and I will buy some of your content!
Oh... and some hardcore bareback content, too!
If u r interesed or need something,i do only exclusive for now,but i am 100% sure i can offer great low prices for exclusive movies/photos
and once again thanx for learning me tricks and alowing me to learn from u!
:angel:
And one question;)
How can i put my photo here?:)
Do you have access to any hairy or mature models in decent shape? I don't need muscle men, although they are nice too.
When u say hairy...
to be non-shave all over the buddy,right?
and for mature...how old exactly?
Go to "user cp" near the top of this page select "edit options" and at the bottom of that page there is a "browse" button to select an image on your drive. The image must be 125x125 pixels or less.Quote:
Originally posted by Lykos
And one question;)
How can i put my photo here?:)
Thanx for that;)Quote:
Originally posted by Xstr8guy
Go to "user cp" near the top of this page select "edit options" and at the bottom of that page there is a "browse" button to select an image on your drive. The image must be 125x125 pixels or less.
I will post some hairy models i have right now,just to tell me are they hairy enough:angel:
I'll go back on what I said about his male models to a certain extent, but not totally.
Yes, there is a place for everything. The internet community is large enough for basically any niche to make some sales.
I actually meant that those types of men fall into a few specific niche's themselves. Just not the largest and/or most pofitable niches.
I'm not slamming the content. It is what it is, and there is nothing wrong with it in that sense.
To qualify for hairy by my definition, the guy should at least have a decent amount of hair on his chest. The rest of the body is less important.Quote:
Originally posted by Lykos
When u say hairy...
to be non-shave all over the buddy,right?
and for mature...how old exactly?
For mature, the guy should be 35 plus. Chest hair is also good for mature models.
Just a little warning... these are my tastes only. Other webmasters might not agree with my definitions.
Ok i understand what are u tlaking about
If u can give me an email i can email u some photos right away couse i have some server problems to upload them:(
sent you a pm
Ok nice,u have an email now:angel:
4:20 am here:)
I am off to sleep now,was nice chating here,and i did learn somethings:)
talk to u tomorrow again,have a good night all:angel:
Sleep well and wet dreams :)
Cya tomorrow :)
Cute pic in your avatar btw ;)
Regards,
Lee
It was nice talking to you on the phone last week Lykos and discussing custom content. You get my last email?
Heya,nice speaking with u bro also:)Quote:
Originally posted by Squirt
It was nice talking to you on the phone last week Lykos and discussing custom content. You get my last email?
Nope haven't got email yet,i was looking for u on ICQ,just hit me up when u have a chance,chears:angel:
Heh:)
Thanx Lee.i just woke up and ready to do some work,but first need some big coffee:)
Lykos, its really good that you are chatting actively with the others here, we have quite a strong community on this board and always welcome new members who are active and are not afraid to ask questions or give opinions! Hopefully we will all be able to help each other out :D
cheers,
Luke
Thanx for warm welcome Chilihost:)
I am very glad to be here,and ready to be really active here,and i don't mind asking when i don't know something and also help when someone need it:angel:
Hi Lykos,
A thought occured to me regarding your original question on your first paysite...
If I lived in Europe and was shooting my own content then I'd be inclined to create some sort of reality site with a heavy emphasis on European locations/themes/men.
It would take a little more effort than a "regular pay site", but...I'm suggesting this because it would be more interesting than yet another twink site, amatuer site, model site, hairy men site, etc...
Just a thought. :)
Hi Robin!
Good advice for sure,but i still have to learn much,i tought i knew more,but still have to learn many things:)
Reallity idea always sounded the best for me,so i did have some toughts in that angle:)will see what will happen at the end:angel:
Hey Lykos,
Did you get my PM requesting those samples of the hairy men? I'm always looking to buy content.
Dzinerbear
Haven't check yet,will do it right now,and let u know:angel:Quote:
Originally posted by Dzinerbear
Hey Lykos,
Did you get my PM requesting those samples of the hairy men? I'm always looking to buy content.
Dzinerbear
U have an email with some hairy models now:angel:Quote:
Originally posted by Dzinerbear
Hey Lykos,
Did you get my PM requesting those samples of the hairy men? I'm always looking to buy content.
Dzinerbear