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Hi guys (and gals)..
New to the board, but want to start off with a question.
Can you suggest some good, common catchphrases from within the Gay community?
Some sayings that are instantly recognizable.. ?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks a lot!
Ruth :presley:
Hello there Miss Ruth!
Sure is nice to see you round this parts. This is a great board...hope you stay and play!
Thanks Harlan!! I was posting on the other boards, and undermyspell pointed out that I might do better posting my question over here..Quote:
Originally posted by Harlan
Hello there Miss Ruth!
Sure is nice to see you round this parts. This is a great board...hope you stay and play!
*doh* moment for me... :goof:
So now I've made it over here I sure hope my fellow webmasters can help me out.. :cute:
I'm not sure what you mean...Quote:
Originally posted by RuthXtremePay
Hi guys (and gals)..
New to the board, but want to start off with a question.
Can you suggest some good, common catchphrases from within the Gay community?
Some sayings that are instantly recognizable.. ?
Any help would be much appreciated.
Thanks a lot!
Ruth :presley:
you mean things like "Miss Thing" and "woof"?
Well, you know how people can hear things and that instantly tells them what it is..
'Size matters' - you know this has to do with penis enlargement
'I did it my way' - fast becoming known as Viagra tag line
'Chick magnet' - you know this is describing a man who is very attractive to the opposite sex
'Where do you want to go today?' = you know this is the catchphrase for Microsoft.
and etc.
that kind of thing, but with the gay audience in mind, some phrases that are commonly used to describe gay activity, or anything within the gay world.
I'm an outsider and want to appeal to the mass gay audience, but from a perspective/standpoint/phrasing that is recognisable.
I hope you get what I mean... thanks!
erg.
um..
well.
I think the gay community is way to diverse for catch phrases. It's been said here a gazillion times.. gay isn't a niche, it's an orientation, unwhich there's hundreds of niches.
ok.. say "Woof". That's generally what Bears/Skinheads/Leathermen/Skins use as a mating call.. but guys into twinks will run screaming from that.
I say "Shag" a lot to describe my exploits, but other guys have no idea what the heck I'm talking about.
I'm not sure if there's a gay slogan like "freshness never tasted so good" that would appeal to a mass gay audience.
what about "Finger Lickin' Good"
Well.. it's not to make fun, it's more to be 'recognized' - something that will feel familiar, do you get what I mean?
We're going to be starting a forum for surfers and I want to start off with the right 'feel' rather than coming from a hetero point of view and screwing it up, d'you know what I mean?
(Finger Lickin Good is hilarious btw Jason - thanks lol)
Shag - lol - I used to use that term all the time - it's British, so maybe that's why folks don't get it ;)
Well.. any help in any way is much appreciated, and hopefully we'll be able to learn more and develop a stronger knowledge of the gay community so that we can provide appropriate content and language on our site.
Please keep the comments/suggestions coming!
Thanks!
well, here's the thing...and i think the point jasun was trying to make:
indulge me if you will. when i was learning american sign language, i was constantly surprised by the number of people who assumed that it was some sort of magical communication bridge for deaf people worldwide. in fact, for every dialect of every spoken language, there is at least one version of sign. the one and only thing that unites deaf people on a global scale is the fact that they can not hear.
to a degree, i understand where you're coming from ruth. the misconception that gay people have some sort of "secret handshake" is fairly vast among straight people. the one and only factor that we all have in common is that we are sexually attracted to our own gender. other than that, the differences are vast.
i'm sure this is overkill analysis on a simple question, but truthfully, a lot of gay business people, as well as customers, will get offended if you treat gay as a niche. for every fetish in the straight market, there's a counterpart in the gay market. but you're right, there is often different terminology. (ie: twinks, bears, etc...) i believe there was a post here a while back that listed a fairly comprehensive list of gay-market keywords. i'll see if i can find it.
thanks for your interest in doing it right.
I understand what you mean, and that's exactly what I'm trying to avoid... I don't want our surfers to feel mocked or irritated or anything negative from our site.
Some targeted keywords would be awesome and would probably help me no end - thank you!
People are people regardless of their sexual orientation, colour, religion, etc, I know that, but there are some things that appeal more to certain 'types' of people than to others, and that's NOT being bigoted or stereotyping, it's just a fact of the world.
THAT is where I'm coming from - again, it's more to provide 'familiarity' when posting categories and naming the forum itself.
For example, the gfy board goes for the name that fits with the 'niche' so to speak of adult webmasters - I'm wanting something that fits with the gay community.
Thanks again for the interest and the help, it's very much appreciated!
Welcome to GWW! :high:
A good place to start your research is http://www.menonthenet.com or http://www.hunkhunter.com
Take a look at the different catch phrases there :-D
One question: What motivates you to create a Gay site instead of the more common straight sites? Seems you would know your own market better?
Thanks! I'll check those sites out.Quote:
Originally posted by Squirt
Welcome to GWW! :high:
A good place to start your research is http://www.menonthenet.com or http://www.hunkhunter.com
Take a look at the different catch phrases there :-D
One question: What motivates you to create a Gay site instead of the more common straight sites? Seems you would know your own market better?
We're already working within the Gay Industry somewhat and we're just wanting to expand our range within the market - a forum is just part of our plans.
Straight sites are saturated - the gay market has not been touched on as much - we reckon there's a market there for a lot of the products that we sell, so a nice match we think - and from the webmasters I've personally worked with (and other people) within the Gay Industry (and not to be a stereotyper (geez - PC gets annoying sometimes though ;))) - the folks I've worked with are wonderful!
I'd say you can expect to see me around this board a lot. :angel:
no offense but when you start TRYING to make things gay, thats where you screw up.
its a fucking message board. just put it up and get the right traffic, and itll take care of itself. you dont need to "fag it up" ...
:)
sorry, i know that really wasn't meant to be funny...and i know what you mean dawgy ("fag it up" just made me laugh)...reminds me of the margaret cho bit about hiring the asian consultant so they could "get chinky with it"
hhmmm...speaking of "fag it up" here's a term for you:
fag hag
margaret cho would be one
anyway, as promised, here you go:
quick reference guide:
http://forums.gaywidewebmasters.com/...ht=terminology
dictionary
http://www.aaronsgayinfo.com/termsTOC.html
Yeah, but don't you think the NAME of the message board says something about the board itself?Quote:
Originally posted by Dawgy
no offense but when you start TRYING to make things gay, thats where you screw up.
its a fucking message board. just put it up and get the right traffic, and itll take care of itself. you dont need to "fag it up" ...
I know it'll take care of itself once it's up and we're sending traffic there, but I don't want to call it something stupid and have us waste sending traffic there cos we turn folks away with our name.. do you know what I mean ?
Thanks a lot Jason! You've been a lot of help, and I appreciate everyone elses input. :DQuote:
Originally posted by Jason
:)
sorry, i know that really wasn't meant to be funny...and i know what you mean dawgy ("fag it up" just made me laugh)...reminds me of the margaret cho bit about hiring the asian consultant so they could "get chinky with it"
hhmmm...speaking of "fag it up" here's a term for you:
fag hag
margaret cho would be one
anyway, as promised, here you go:
quick reference guide:
http://forums.gaywidewebmasters.com/...ht=terminology
dictionary
http://www.aaronsgayinfo.com/termsTOC.html
RuthXtremePay - if you try too hard to make something recognizably gay, it will probably offend more people than it will attract. there are too many gay people and people who are friends and relatives of gay people to have common keywords.
i once had a waiter who i liked, and wanted to let him know gently we could hang out. there was no special phrase i've ever heard - i had to mention a certain club.
if you try to use "gay" words, you will not attract the people who are less flamboyant and don't live the lifestyle - you will alienate them. gay people - are people. a gay construction worker who lives in texas and hangs out with straight people isn't going to use the same expressions as a leather man in west hollywood nor as a supermarket employee in new york.
very well put...
I think one of the mistakes that a lot of straight companies make when try to appeal to a gay audience is go with outdated 90s cliches(gay people who wear pink triangle this and rainbow that are lauged at.. openly...)...or Queer-Eye-For-The-Straight-Guy type fashion victims. (Make no mistake, straight people like that show a lot more than gay men do, and although some gay men get a kick out of the show, there's very few who'd actually be seen in public with a flamer like that Carson twerp.)
they do things like cover everything with rainbow flags, pink triangles, those silly lamda greek letters and those intertwined male symbols... they use phrases like "Mary" or "Girlfriend" or "Miss Thing".
Two cases in point.
One of those dating phone lines ran a very poorly done infomercial up here in Canada about 6-7 years ago. It was hosted by a drag queen who kept calling everyone "Mary" and would interview people who were looking for "dates" in this totally over the top gay way.. aksing them if they were top or bottom.. stuff like that.
Recently, Phillidelphia ran a commercial in an attempt to attract gay tourists. It was vaguely clever, with it's use of two men meeting for a date in the 18th century, all decked out in powedered wigs and frilly shirts, but the whole vibe was one of weak, effeminate men reading poetry to each other.. it appealed to some women, but it turned off the gay community, and the accompanying print ads with Betsy Ross sewing a rainbow flag just looked silly and out of date... and further bugged anyone who knew that the rainbow flag was developed in the 70 in SF.
I guess what we all seem to be saying is that just making it a gay place should be enough.
Take a look at Planetout.com and see.. very little gay imagry... it's just well designed and classy.
And please.. no pink.
wow, all the nice ICQ messages telling me how much of an asshole i am
excuse me for expressing my opinion about straight companies trying to make things gay.
ruth is awesome & so is xtremepay, i have nothing against them & i know theyll build a kickass message board.
i was merely expressing my thoughts, as a gay guy who has the pleasure of working for a large straight company every day.
im gonna turn off icq now, bitches.
Dawgy.. I don't think you're an asshole at all.
and you had taken the words right out of my mouth.
you wanna put something back in there?
Dawgy, you're not an asshole, you're just opinionated.. :wacko: --- ;)Quote:
Originally posted by Dawgy
wow, all the nice ICQ messages telling me how much of an asshole i am
excuse me for expressing my opinion about straight companies trying to make things gay.
ruth is awesome & so is xtremepay, i have nothing against them & i know theyll build a kickass message board.
i was merely expressing my thoughts, as a gay guy who has the pleasure of working for a large straight company every day.
im gonna turn off icq now, bitches.
LOL.. ALL comments have been greatly appreciated, and being honest is DEFINITELY welcome. Sometimes we CAN go over the top TRYING to make something appear to be something, and our company definitely doesn't want to do that with this, that's one of the big reasons I came here when I was directed here.
You guys are great for me, cos you're IN this part of the industry and so you KNOW what will appeal and what won't and when we can try too hard. I DON'T know this and therefore for someone to tell me is them being helpful... it's not like you were a dick about it or anything, just blunt.
Anyways, if folks are harrassing you on ICQ on my behalf, pls accept my apologies, I'm not offended in any way myself.
Thanks again folks, you GWW guys are AWESOME! :love:
Why don't you name the webboard "Flamin' Faggots Forum"?
I'm sure everyone will love that! ;)
And be sure to use lots of rainbows and make the background bright pink!
Xstr8guy - you stole my IdeaQuote:
Originally posted by Xstr8guy
Why don't you name the webboard "Flamin' Faggots Forum"?
I'm sure everyone will love that! ;)
And be sure to use lots of rainbows and make the background bright pink!
LOL
I second that.Quote:
Originally posted by Xstr8guy
Why don't you name the webboard "Flamin' Faggots Forum"?
I'm sure everyone will love that! ;)
And be sure to use lots of rainbows and make the background bright pink!
Ruth, everyone knows we like lavender, pink and rainbows, lots of rainbows.
I'll let you in on a secret. Our love of rainbows stems from The Wizard of Oz and our love for that movie and Judy Garland ;-D
Man I could barely type that without feeling sick to my stomach
Ruth.. if all else fails post a nude picture of Hugh Jackman and it'll make Jasun happy and he'll give you every insiders secret he has.. :howl:
Seriously though kudos to Xtremepay for wanting to do things right. I'm happy that those of us that run predominantly "straight" sites can come to a board like this and receive feedback as to what we are doing right or wrong.
Oh and Ruth, if the Hugh Jackman fails just send Jasun a case of Jaeger and repeatedly message him and tell him you really do have a penis... should work like a charm.
Hey girl.. I'm promoting your gay site... so it did work..
but back to Ruth..
All kidding aside, I don't know if we can tell you what you SHOULD do, but we've all come up with things that you SHOULDN'T.
Hope we've at least been of some help.
And Squirt had a good idea when he said to check out those sites...
As I said, you guys have been awesome and I appreciate all input from everyone.
Again, to repeat, our goal is to integrate and 'fit' into the gay side of this industry, we do not seek to alienate anyone or 'stereotype' anyone.
Thanks for the valuable honest opinions, you guys rock! :D
Seems like everyone has already given you all the good answers, so I'll just say WELCOME and enjoy your stay.
Some great feedback in this thread for sure :thumbsup:
Regards,
Lee