BOYBUCK$ “Stuff it for others”

Yesterday I received a phone call from one of the largest Gay Webmasters telling me that BOYBUCK$ was offered it’s affiliates to much !! and was " Stuffing it" for other (read their) gay affiliate programs.

This call from this irate guy was caused, I think... by BOYBUCK$, last Mondays launch of 100+ hosted online galleries and adding a new Tranny Site – “Tranny Time”, which is converting lots of Straight Traffic.

Both these initiatives had been requested by our affiliates, we were simply responding to their requests.

This UGLY webmaster spat venom at me saying that BOYBUCK$ offers their affiliates to much and that his program was going backwards FAST because of it.. He then wanted to do a deal where we colluded together and offered affiliate webmasters less but made more $$ together.

I said no.

I hope you support my decision. .

BOYBUCK$ strives to be The Very Best gay affiliate program around !!

Yeah yeah... Too many ads for other sponsors on the pop-up! If your sites convert so well, why do you need to promote other sponsors? You even have a toy store banner on the front page of two of the sites I looked at.

You pay 50% -- how is that more than anyone else?

Gee, RickUK, think that was a subtle spam on his part?

:bandana:

Quote:

---

Originally posted by RickUK
Yeah yeah... Too many ads for other sponsors on the pop-up! If your sites convert so well, why do you need to promote other sponsors? You even have a toy store banner on the front page of two of the sites I looked at.

---

Hi RickUK thank you for replying to this thread !

1. We only have exclusive content we shoot ourselves on location in Australia.

2. Sites updated weekly

2. Because of 1+2 above our sites convert and retain Way Better than other Gay Affiliate programs.

4. We pay 50% join and rebills - prior to processing fees.

5. We pay Platinum Points in addition to 3. above, which can be redeemed for valuable Goods and Services - see www.boybucks.net for details.

6. We Now offer 100+ hosted galleries to assist our revsharers selling memberships to BOYBUCK$ sites.

7. We offer 18 unique niche sites to promote.

8. Established 4.5 years

9. Payouts directly from processors (No Shaveing)


I could continue with other points but I and you would be here for ever - demonstrating why you are "Missing Out" unless you are part of BOYBUCK$

For more details on the program please go to www.boybucks.net

Try Us !! I am sure you will be pleasantly surprised.

Best Wishes - Resolute - T i m.

Personally... I love BoyBucks' sites 8)

Quote:

---

Originally posted by BDBionic
Personally... I love BoyBucks' sites 8)

---

The “ Ubiquitous” - Brian, Thanks for you support mate !!

Sure others will 2 once they investigate the program further, join and see how BOYBUCK$ sites convert and retain so well !

It's so easy to knock others and be negative !! We feel it's MUCH More fun to be . . Creative and to make things happen. .

See you soon . . . T i m.

my pleasure :D

I put a grip of the free galleries up on one of my sites and have gotten a really good response from them.

Plus, I use the "main.php" edit for the linking code so that the traffic I send on banners doesn't get any popups and what not. Which is a cool feature to have.

And I'm not just saying all this because I want to marry and do naughty things with 99.9 percent of your models (the other 0.1% i just wanna do naughty things with).

Still dunno what's going on here in town on New Years but if I find out, I'll let ya know! Either way, look forward to seeing ya in Vegas :D

Quote:

---

Originally posted by BDBionic
my pleasure :D

I put a grip of the free galleries up on one of my sites and have gotten a really good response from them.

Plus, I use the "main.php" edit for the linking code so that the traffic I send on banners doesn't get any popups and what not. Which is a cool feature to have.

And I'm not just saying all this because I want to marry and do naughty things with 99.9 percent of your models (the other 0.1% i just wanna do naughty things with).

Still dunno what's going on here in town on New Years but if I find out, I'll let ya know! Either way, look forward to seeing ya in Vegas :D

---

"THRILLED" . . . but not surprised that the hosted galleries are doing soooo well 4U..

Yerr Yerr I know where do we get our boys, everywhere. Rodaos, beaches and from sporting venues but NOT out of Gay bars !!

Will be in LAX for new year and Vegas after, will be fun 2 C U again . . T i m

well, since this is an obvious spam posting, have you seen the amazing results from the hosted free galleries and hosted free sites that are being offered on http://www.hunkmoney.com ?

I tell ya, we have had ZERO upset webmasters because we just keep making them soooooo much money that they are just immediately cumming every time they see their stats. And now because they check their stats so often, they are all better in bed too.

If you want to experience huge paycheques and multiple orgasms, sign up to http://www.hunkmoney.com today!



:P

Luke

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Chilihost
well, since this is an obvious spam posting, have you seen the amazing results from the hosted free galleries and hosted free sites that are being offered on http://www.hunkmoney.com ?

I tell ya, we have had ZERO upset webmasters because we just keep making them soooooo much money that they are just immediately cumming every time they see their stats. And now because they check their stats so often, they are all better in bed too.

If you want to experience huge paycheques and multiple orgasms, sign up to http://www.hunkmoney.com today!



:P

Luke

---

Wrong Luke !!! Don't outsmart yourself and Loose by doing this...

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Chilihost
well, since this is an obvious spam posting, have you seen the amazing results from the hosted free galleries and hosted free sites that are being offered on http://www.hunkmoney.com ?

I tell ya, we have had ZERO upset webmasters because we just keep making them soooooo much money that they are just immediately cumming every time they see their stats. And now because they check their stats so often, they are all better in bed too.

If you want to experience huge paycheques and multiple orgasms, sign up to http://www.hunkmoney.com today!



:P

Luke

---

I'll second that. Best affiliate program going for Gay Webmasters!
And most of all..a sponsor that gives a sh*t about their affiliates!

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Resolute
Wrong Luke !!! Don't outsmart yourself and Loose by doing this...

---

How incredibly rude! The only loser here is you sir!
Never get ANY of my biz! Nor anyone else I could possibly refer.

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Mansized
How incredibly rude! The only loser here is you sir!
Never get ANY of my biz! Nor anyone else I could possibly refer.

---

In the contry . . . . tut tut get into the 21st century . . . SIR !! lol

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Resolute
In the contry . . . . tut tut get into the 21st century . . . SIR !! lol

---

You're a riot! Besides being incomprehensible & unprofessional, you are in desperate need of a spell checker too halfwit!
Go back to Spam School for some refresher courses!

I signed up for BoyBuck$ this afternoon, after fighting through the iBill registration (due to f'd up previous registration with them or something)... I didn't see any mention or access to the galleries being talked about.... Call me dumb (everyone else does) but am I just blind or what?

Thanks in advance everyone....

Quote:

---

Originally posted by mirepup
I signed up for BoyBuck$ this afternoon, after fighting through the iBill registration (due to f'd up previous registration with them or something)... I didn't see any mention or access to the galleries being talked about.... Call me dumb (everyone else does) but am I just blind or what?

Thanks in advance everyone....

---

I am sure you are not dumb and I would not call you that anyway...

I will get our webmaster to respond to you - soon.

Best Wishes Resolute - T i m.

T I M,

since this is your first and only post on this board, I guess you do not know me yet...I am very frank on this board and when I read (or read through) your message I thought I would respond with a slightly less blatent spam myself.

You really should have just popped in and said hi and introduced yourself and your program instead of hiding behind your silly story. You would have gotten a much more welcoming response from many of us here.

And if you do insist on taking me seriously, then maybe you should join my program and see just how much better my sites convert compared to any other ones out there...hell we are even converting people without a computer or internet connection ;)
(well, they said they were straight before I converted them!!!)

cheers,

Luke

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Chilihost
T I M,

since this is your first and only post on this board, I guess you do not know me yet...I am very frank on this board and when I read (or read through) your message I thought I would respond with a slightly less blatent spam myself.

You really should have just popped in and said hi and introduced yourself and your program instead of hiding behind your silly story. You would have gotten a much more welcoming response from many of us here.

And if you do insist on taking me seriously, then maybe you should join my program and see just how much better my sites convert compared to any other ones out there...hell we are even converting people without a computer or internet connection ;)
(well, they said they were straight before I converted them!!!)

cheers,

Luke

---

Hi Luke,

Your latest, tempered, response most welcome and appreciated.

Best Wishes - Resolute T i m.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Chilihost
[B]If you want to experience huge paycheques and multiple orgasms, sign up to http://www.hunkmoney.com today!

For the record, Luke, I'll be *extremely* upset if I don't get those guaranteed multiple orgasms.

Meanwhile Resolute, you didn't answer my original question. Which was why you need the pop up promoting so many other sponsors :-) As for the toy ad actually on the front page of all your sites, it's a fact that bright colours attract attention and it is the brightest thing on those pages. I know where my eye goes first!

It looks like like you have some nice content on Australian Males especially. Just a shame about the huge pop-up.

"It looks like like you have some nice content on Australian Males especially"

Thanks for you complements RickUK

Best Wishes - Resolute T i m.

Ha ha still no answer though!

Well business is business... who pays your bills? not them, so fuck them. I get tons of emails from jealous designers asking me why my rates are so low... what do they expect from me? Send them all my clients? or share money? I do the rates i want... fuck people who doesn't like it, they ain't paying my fucking bills!
Just my 2 fucking cents though :)
Happy Holidays :)

Rick, of course I can guarantee multiple orgasms.....are you visiting Aussie soon? If yes, come check your stats at my place & I will personally ensure you get those multiple orgasms ;)


cheers!

Luke

I still don't see what's so special about your program. You offer 50% if we promote your sites. That's standard.

If you offered 100%, I'd still not touch anything that looked that young and continually referred to 'boys'.

I like Hunkmoney.com, too

:)

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Chilihost
If you want to experience huge paycheques and multiple orgasms, sign up to http://www.hunkmoney.com today!

---

:groovy: Very nice program!

Do people who barely know the english language (and definately don't know how to spell) really set up successful affiliate programs? I for one won't sign up to promote sites with spelling errors, much less huge popup banners. Way to spam and show all us other webmasters just how enept you are, that's sure to get you affiliates!

Quote:

---

Originally posted by DigitalJay
Do people who barely know the english language (and definately don't know how to spell) really set up successful affiliate programs? I for one won't sign up to promote sites with spelling errors, much less huge popup banners. Way to spam and show all us other webmasters just how enept you are, that's sure to get you affiliates!

---

Looks Like we "Miss" out on you !

whats up with these reward points programs sites are offering now? 350 sales gets you a set of speakers woohoo! if i could make that many sales i could buy my own damn speakers.

Why don't you answer ricks question? If your site is so successful why do you need a huge sponsor popup?

I got $20 that says he still dosn't give a valid answer :p

Quote:

---

Originally posted by DigitalJay
whats up with these reward points programs sites are offering now? 350 sales gets you a set of speakers woohoo! if i could make that many sales i could buy my own damn speakers.

Why don't you answer ricks question? If your site is so successful why do you need a huge sponsor popup?

I got $20 that says he still dosn't give a valid answer :p

---

For you information Digitaljay/Rick -

The exit consoles are there because they make us and our affiliates money and if an affiliate chooses not to have em " They Don't Have To "

Quote:

---

Originally posted by RickUK
Yeah yeah... Too many ads for other sponsors on the pop-up! If your sites convert so well, why do you need to promote other sponsors? You even have a toy store banner on the front page of two of the sites I looked at.

---

We promote other sponsors because they promote us !!

Looks like this thread is under control :groovy:

Regards,

Lee

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Lee
Looks like this thread is under control :groovy:

Regards,

Lee

---

Sometimes I wonder if I am under control Lee ;)

but I know b o y b u c k $ is !!!

Quote:

---

Originally posted by Resolute
We promote other sponsors because they promote us !!

---

I don't see how that benefits the affiliate :-) It is a traffic leak.

So, just to be clear, are you saying that affiliates get some kind of cut from the toy store ad, Major Hardon, the casino ad, Bear Fur, Speed Up Your PC, and the others?

On the subject of spelling errors I've noticed even Topbucks has got quite careless on that. Unless it is deliberate...

Some sponsors have gone way overboard with promoting their own afilliate links through popups. The worst I have seen recently is one that as soon as someone clicks on your link they get one popup that covers your link with the sponsor's own ref codes, a popunder with 20 or 30 more of their own ref codes, the fake Inbox that spawns timed consoles and if you exit the page 3 to 4 more consoles, none of which you get credit for... all from a hosted gallery!

I refuse to promote sponsors who do this and I tell every one of them why when they send me, "Do you need help sending us traffic?" messages. I will only promote sponors who have a console free option or share with me revenue from any signups they get that they wouldn't have without my traffic. Good traffic is hard to come by and I'll be damned if I am going to just GIVE it to someone who is making more $$$ than me! If more webmasters would do this and stick to it maybe this would become less commonplace with sponsors.

I have debated with several sponsors who engage in this tactic and they think there is nothing wrong with telling webmasters they get credit for all exit sells when in fact they may get credit for links on 1 console if that.

Quote:

---

I will only promote sponors who have a console free option or share with me revenue from any signups they get that they wouldn't have without my traffic.

---

Same here some of the sponsors whether they are small ones or ones that have hundreds of sites just dont seem to grasp the true concept behind using consoles on their tours, they are there primarily to make money and this shouldnt be forgotten however, if the affiliate doesnt make money, they dont make money.

To often do i see consoles popping on entry to a site that are full of links to other websites (not owned by the affiliate program) where webmasters dont make a red cent and it actually pisses me off to no end.

Quote:

---

Good traffic is hard to come by and I'll be damned if I am going to just GIVE it to someone who is making more $$$ than me!

---

Thats a great way to look at things and, one that actually works VERY well.

Quote:

---

when in fact they may get credit for links on 1 console if that.

---

Exactly what i hate about these practises which was actually one of the reasons we only have a single console on Stud Money sites and in addition, we give webmasters credit on all the highly clicked links from our consoles.

I actually think the whole console concept got out of control a year or two ago when it seemed like everyone had at least one paysite of their own and they wanted to put them to use to make them more money because the tours didnt sell the sites, as i said above, the first use of a console is to make money plain and simple but programs shouldnt use these consoles to the point where they dilute not only their own traffic but, that of their affiliates.

With that said, i also beleive sometime in the next month or two we are going to be 'altering' the console we have on SM to give webmasters more ways of making money including something that NO other sponsor has done in the past unfortunately i cant say what it is just yes as we are still beta testing it however, preliminary results are looking very good indeed :groovy:

Regards,

Lee

My main site is a pop-up free zone and I aim to get return traffic, so pop up hell on a sponsor is not an option and even one pop puts me off promoting something.

Some time ago I began tracking all my traffic using the free AXS script which can show the path the visitor takes through the site and off to any external links. My logs show that some people go back and forward from my site to sponsors, sometimes checking out six or seven until they find something they like.

When a sponsor prevents my surfer from getting back to my site -- by tricks with the back button, with multiple windows, or with annoying tactics that may convince the surfer to close all the windows -- thus leaving my site -- he is not only failing to make a sale for me on his site, but he is also denying me 2, 3, 4... click throughs to my other sponsors, one of whom might make me a sale. It is something to think about... That crappy tour might be reducing the conversion rates on your other sponsors too!

What I am saying is that, sometimes, it is incorrect to think in terms of a surfer being a single click off to somewhere else...

Maybe it depends on the type of site you have (my strategy is to offer a quality experience) but my best converting sponsors are always the ones that have the same policy -- no pops, links going offsite or other scams. One of the things I promote earns me an average of 60c a click through one way or another and that is too good to risk losing. Other good sponsors convert at 1:50 to 1:250.

I use server-side-includes and any sponsors that don't make money in a certain length of time are removed from the entire 500 page site by editing one or two text files and ideally replaced with a more-profitable sponsor in a similar niche -- in case someone comes back looking for that original link on the page.

If more people removed links to sponsors that don't convert, instead of building pages and leaving up for ever (a TGP rule in some cases of course) there would be fewer bad sponsors as they wouldn't continue to get all that free traffic for no return.

Quote:

---

Originally posted by RickUK

If more people removed links to sponsors that don't convert, instead of building pages and leaving up for ever (a TGP rule in some cases of course) there would be fewer bad sponsors as they wouldn't continue to get all that free traffic for no return.

---

Amen! Unfortunately the net is well littered with pages from webmasters who gave up after being screwed over and over and new "suckers" come along every day so there will be free traffic for shady sponsors for years to come.

I wonder how many sponsors that use the pop-ups to their own links you don't get credit for actually tweak combining lower converting and less attractive tours for the link you get credit for with much better ones for those links credited to only themselves? That way if someone actually DID manage to buy through your link they'd get a cut but most converted links would be going 100% to them.

Great to meet so many of you in Vegas do the deals and have fun !!
Especially the "English Rose " !!

Bumping an old thread for page views is imho the same as unsolicted forum spam.

Thread is being locked.

Regards,

Lee