I know sex sells...

Hello gay webmasters out there...

I am a returning gay webmaster who's checking out the possibilities of making money in this (gay adult internet) business these days. It's been 2 years since I was involved adult internet.

My method before was to build TGP gallery pages and then direct visitors to my AVS sites like **** and SexKey. I got a lot of my traffic from TGPs like theHUN, ButtBuddies, etc. and did fairly well for a couple of years.

Over time I was driven out of business by escalating bandwidth charges and dwindling avs sign-ups. I got tired of working harder just to make less, so I shut down all the sex sites I was running.

I'm sure this story is nothing new to you all. I'm just wondering maybe you guys have come up with a few new ideas since I left off. I've found members of this community are really great people who are always looking for creative ways to make more money.

I recently took advantage of a deal for unlimited adult bandwidth for one year for $15. I figured, what have I got to lose? So now I'm interested in taking this new opportunity to a rewarding place.

I've got tons of legal content to use again, although a lot of it has probably been overused. Yet I've heard it said that good porn is timeless and sex sells.

Any suggestions offered are greatly appreciated.

What site is **** in your post above?

Greetings:

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Originally posted by Squirt
What site is **** in your post above?

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My money's on U*G*A*S, it's one of the, dare I even say it, banned words around here. :wacko:

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Originally posted by JustMe
Greetings:



My money's on U*G*A*S, it's one of the, dare I even say it, banned words around here. :wacko:

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U*G*A*S is banned too? What did they do? I thought it was only Csocket and Bfellow?

There's a lot of ****** words on this *****. It can be kind of fun, actually. You *** type out a post or reply and when you ***** the submit ******, guess which ***** will be ****** by the time the post shows up and appear as ********* instead!

SexSells... as far as your questions go I still think there's money in gettin traffic to AENs and doin what you're doin with the traffic going to membership sponsor sites as well. Just gotta find the ones that haven't already saturated the market. Newer sponsors, more unique sponsors, smaller programs that have original and unseen content. Contact the webmasters and ask them for content and the like, rather than relying only on the hosted galleries bigger programs make available to any and everyone.

Even with TGPs not having the greatest ratios and AENs not converting as well for ya as they did before, hot original content still sells.

You know I went to *******.com today and they didn't say anything about ******* , ******* or Lee. I think Lee could have dealt with *******, *******, *******, *******, *******, *******, ******* and ******* differently. After all the guys at ******* are great people, so Lee and them don't get along, big deal. We should all work togeter.

So to date, the following companies and people are banned right? *******, ******* , *******, ******* , *******, ******* ,*******, ******* ,*******, ******* and *******? Correct me if I'm wrong on this. I've seen ******* , *******, ******* & ******* posting on other boards and they don't even mentioned being banned here.

Does the board automatically put *** next to the name of someone that is banned, or that Lee decides to censor?

sexsells101 welcome to GWW!

I'm so sorry for getting off track with my last response.

Why not do what you were doing last time? Since you have experience in TGP, etc. then use those skills and make some of those sites that will drive traffic to a pay site you create with the content you have?

I don't know that much about the part of the industry you're in.. I do pay sites, but BDBionic is in the same area you are.

Again, welcome to the board! :high:

sexsells101 - welcome back to the biz :-)

i never stopped posting galleries to promote avs sites, and paysites, too. works great :-) also i still use content that's been seen around and make money.

the way i see it, no one can give you unlimited bandwidth for $15 - it can't be done. your host has to pay for bandwidth, and galleries certainly can easily go through 750 gig quite easily a month. your host has to pay for that, plus for servers and techs.

Yeah, I thought the same about the bandwidth but this offer seems real. I came across it on EBAY (I don't know if that word is banned) being auctioned by Dan at DATAFORK.NET.

I've been assured that there are no restrictions on content or bandwidth. With all my old listings at TGPs like the Hun it was eating me alive with bandwidth charges. I can get a fresh start with this deal.

Thanks for your suggestions!

And you're certain they'll allow an adult site? Many hosts won't. And welcome to the board!

Greetings:

Ok, I guess I'm destine to become the official asshole of the board. As such, I'll be the one to say it:

You have GOT to be shitting me. You actually believe you bought unlimited bandwidth for an entire year for $15 from an auction on Ebay?

I mean, come on now. You claim that you've done work in this industry before. Surely you can't be THAT gullable?

Take my advice, it may save you a LOT of money in your lifetime: If you actually are that clueless to the ways of the world, you shouldn't be in business, ANY business. You'll remain nothing but a pawn that others will exploit and profit from.

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JustMe - i guess it had to be said that way. if the host pays only 5 cents per gig, he will lose hundreds - if not thousands - of dollars on bandwidth alone. posting galleries, not full-time, you will burn 9000 gig a year. the hosts don't get that free. why would they pay hundreds of dollars for the priviledge of hosting your porn?

some people want to believe there is such a thing as a free lunch. paying for something on ebay doesn't make it authentic - i found someone selling stolen content on ebay.

Ew, and I thought you were all so nice! Just Me, here's the auction information:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=5155363234

I'm glad I checked with you guys, 'cause maybe it is a bunch of BS. However, the guy did contact me right away after the auction and gave me passwords etc. I've already transferred my DNS and the first page is up and running at:

http:www.gaysexillustrated.com

danz@vcn.com datafork.net

I don't claim to know it all, that's why I was asking for the advise. I might be gullible, but that's better than expecting the worst from the world.

For $15 dollars it'll no big loss if it is a rip-off. Thanks again to all you NICE gay webmaster brothers out there, you made my day.

sexsells101 - i think you're missing the point.

since the bandwidth to run your stuff - especially galleries - can cost the host between a few times what you are paying him and thousands of times what you are paying, not counting the host's setup time or support, it is a literally impossible deal. no one can charge less than they pay for something and stay in business.

my business is too valuable for me to risk spending my time and effort building a site, only to have it go down forever. since i thought the same would be true of you, i was offering a caution to help save you problems.

i don't expect the worst from the world - the world treats me pretty fairly. i simply don't expect to get something for free from a business which exists to make money.

Howdy, sexsells101 . . nice start up at Gay Sex Illustrated!! Good luck in the future growth of your holdings. 'n don't go way upset. Stick around, it's usually a fun and informative place.

Umm. . . folks, ya never heard of loss leaders?? sexsells101 gave the host's information in his/her 2nd post. It's an operation that's been around since '98. Go there and you'll find it quite easy to understand the 'el cheapo' offer this hosting company made via EBAY. They only got a few takers (check the EBAY buyer history) which I'd bet their marketing man/woman felt would happen. I'd also bet related expenses are being treated as a 'cost of promotion' write off. They've got reasonable standard prices and do allow adult content - - and got their name mentioned here!

Hey BassChick -- You're doing fine, I appreciated your concern that it might be a rip-off. I thought it sounded like a good enough deal to try it with a very minimal investment.

I guess I'll deal with any shutdowns if and when they happen. So far they're serving up my (one)page without a problem. I'm going to submit some galleries to TGPs soon, maybe then the bandwith will be a problem.

Perhaps this guy has a whole lot of extra server space that's just sitting there, and figures a lot of people will buy it and then won't ever use much. I've heard alot of hosting companies are hurting, and prices have dropped. Not so? We all get a few fortuitous "deals" in life, so I don't see any reason to question this guy's motives.

To all of you -- We kind of got away from the subject of creative marketing on the gay internet.

Wouldn't it be interesting to see if a well intentioned webmaster can still figure out how to make a few bucks doing what he likes?

Any recommendations on the best AvS or Sponsors that really make them money?
How about gay friendly TGPs to work with?
How are online movie sites like NakedSword doing for you?

Any other great webmaster discussion groups like this one? The **** **** censorings are hilarious! Keep up the good work, whoever you are.

I'm also interested in doing an opt-in mailing scheme(legally) and am looking for a service that's adult friendly and reasonably priced (like my hosting deal!). I plan on doing a weekly newsletter type thing that brings visitors back. The ones I've looked into don't want any adult content or profanity, and I'm sure you all know how profane the subject of gay sex can be.

Again, thanks for the help.

Jonjayw... Thanks for the encouragement. You rock!