Yes? No? Legal? Not Done?

1. What's the general feeling about promoting tranny sites along with gay sites, especially in a tgp type page setup?

2. Is fisting considered "undesirable",or illegal... either/and with pics and word usage? I'm pretty sure I read that it should NOT be put into keywords. Right up there with Lolita, ***********, etc?

3. We're finding a lot of sites that won't list a site that uses the word "boy" or links to sites using the word "boy" ... and that's like half the dang sites the sponsors have for gays! Or is this more geared to the usage of boy in the actual url? (Oh!Boy is one that comes to mind real quick like).

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1. What's the general feeling about promoting tranny sites along with gay sites, especially in a tgp type page setup?

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I wouldn't do it, Bec. The two don't go together. And, when you dealing with the fast a furious tgp types you better off selling one at a time. If you're selling gay and tranny do it seperately it separate galleries.

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2. Is fisting considered "undesirable",or illegal... either/and with pics and word usage? I'm pretty sure I read that it should NOT be put into keywords. Right up there with Lolita, ***********, etc?

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Ok fisting falls under "undesirable" along with Lolita, teens etc. CP, *********** and the like fall under illegal. Xtr8guy would be the best to answer this one I believe. But last I heard the focus was on free site images. The image on a gallery or site could not (or should not) show penetration passed the knuckles unless it was behind a pay curtain. Like I mentioned X probably has the best answer for this niche ;) or should I use :leather: lol

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3. We're finding a lot of sites that won't list a site that uses the word "boy" or links to sites using the word "boy" ... and that's like half the dang sites the sponsors have for gays! Or is this more geared to the usage of boy in the actual url? (Oh!Boy is one that comes to mind real quick like).

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Depending on the site your submitting to, it's your use of the word 'boy' anywhere. 'Boy', 'teen' and 'twink' are becoming hot words, as of late, and being put on par with Lolita in an attempt to curb CP. I had a page declined because I used the phrase "Oh Boy gonna get me some" on a DILF gallery LOL I wrote the site owner and he was accomodating. Again, depending on the site you are submitting to, when in doubt email the webmaster.

Hope this helped!

Hugs,
GA

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Originally posted by LdyLnWolf1
1. What's the general feeling about promoting tranny sites along with gay sites, especially in a tgp type page setup?

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I run a few TGP sites with a tranny category. For TGP's I don't think it's a problem as there is a little bit of crossover from straight to gay...

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2. Is fisting considered "undesirable",or illegal... either/and with pics and word usage? I'm pretty sure I read that it should NOT be put into keywords. Right up there with Lolita, ***********, etc?

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I'm not 100% sure about whether it's just the US where its considered illegal.

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Originally posted by timothyb
I run a few TGP sites with a tranny category. For TGP's I don't think it's a problem as there is a little bit of crossover from straight to gay...

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If you're working in a specific tranny category then you're selling it separately. LOL

Two years ago I would have agreed with you on the gay/straight crossover on a gallery page. But with the number of TGP sites counting the amount of outside links, what sponsors are on a gallery and the like, my opinion has changed. Try to get that click out on the most productive link you can.

If you're lucky enough to find a TGP site that will not count your links or won't tie your hands then a crossover is possible. But I still wouldn't make it gay to tranny; I'd add a straight mega site.

Gary-Alan

On my TGP, I wouldn't have a problem with tranny pages, so long as it said "Tranny" in the description... if it didn't, I'd probably put it in myself. I don't really have a category for it, though, and I'm not sure it would do you much good sales-wise. Tranny is a fetish generally saved for straight men who like the odd dick... most gay guys... in fact ALL gay guys I've ever spoken about with have thought it was funny and not a turn on at all. No anti-Tranny stuff, just not a turn on.

Oh, and the fisting thing's new to me. I may need to take a look and make sure I didn't make any fisting refs anywhere.

Finally, on Metromen the word "boy" is pretty much verbotten by itself, but "Frat Boy" or "Skater Boy" is ok... I prefer "Young Men" or "Guys", and for the time being, "Twink" is alright, but I've noticed that Google won't let me use it as an Adword anymore.

Ah well... the times they are a changin'

Haha damn Jasun..

You edited out the bit of your post i was going to tell everyone to pay attention too LOL

Ah well LOL

Regards,

Lee

Oh, the part about the 2257 thing? yeah... felt like I was getting off topic.

It's late.

I wasn't very clear on the gay/tranny thing. I'm not promoting a gay site with trans pics in a gallery.

www.gaydicks4you.com went live friday nite, and I have quite a few tranny links in their own category, and links down the one side are seperate from the gay ones for the most part. Right now it's a fake tgp layout until we can swing buying a good tgp program that I can add in behind this.

I also am making little mini/free sites that promote a specific niche/sponsor site that we can submit to the SE's and link lists. One mini/free is Clits and Dicks - Transexual Switcheroo

It promotes the tranny sites and a couple of straight niches for "top sites". I specifically wanted this to make a nice step over to the LesbianPorn4Free site we have, since it'd be hard to list it on a mini niche "top list" for gays. The Transexual Man site promotes fisting, but I didn't list that anywhere in the meta tags or in my gallery text ... that's why I asked about it.

This one Thick Chocolate is for ebony, and promotes other gay sites and interracial.

I'd show you the one for the DILF - but it's still being constructed.

Galleries in the niche/freebies are what we'll submit to outside tgps, and some of those will carry a recip back to the www.gaydicks4you.com main page, especially once it gets a real tgp up.

So, does this work, or should I narrow down the tranny links I show on the main page?

Your DILF link on the right goes to a straight site hon on GD4U ;)

Will get back to you in a sec once ive looked at the other urls you mentioned lol

Regards,

Lee

I see what you mean now and yes, that is pretty much how i would market tranny sites :)

Bear in mind though as mentioned above, if you primary traffic source to those sites is gay orientated it might be overkill having so many tranny links on the site, i guess give it a month or so and see how it works out for you then adjust your marketing as needed from there :)

Also because im being pedantic hehe

That HUGE MC banner on your WM page, if you felt like changing to a Stud Money banner i have one that would fill the space quite nicely ;)

Regards,

Lee

LOL -- you got to the resource page before I got the new ones added! Put up your bigger one, lemme see if it fits what I'm doing now.

My big one always fits LMAOPIP

http://www.webmasteradvertising.com/...oney250250.gif

There ya go :)

Regards,

Lee

And thanks for catching that link thing ... been having problems with copy/paste .. it isn't always picking up the new thing I copy and puts in what I used just prior. It's fixed now.

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Originally posted by LdyLnWolf1
And thanks for catching that link thing ... been having problems with copy/paste .. it isn't always picking up the new thing I copy and puts in what I used just prior. It's fixed now.

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Not a problem lol

To be honest it helps us as much as it helps you, if you dont make money *we* dont make money lol

Regards,

Lee

Hey Lee ....

Just for you hon :: wink ::

Ta da

be sure to scroll down and check right column

You rock girl :rocker: :juggle: :thumbsup:

Let me know when your TGP is up and running fully and ill make sure you get a good listing in the Directory ;)

Regards,

Lee

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Originally posted by Lee
You rock girl :rocker: :juggle: :thumbsup:

Let me know when your TGP is up and running fully and ill make sure you get a good listing in the Directory ;)

Regards,

Lee

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Kewl! Thanks!

Bec, I love the new site, it looks great. I think the tranny listings are fine there, you will not get as many clicks on those links as your other links, but I agree with timothy, there is a small crossover market with gay & tranny.

I am not sure about the word fisting, but the word boy is very very common in the gay community (everyone likes to think they are still young, ya know)...I would not stress over using that word. If you want to be cautions, maybe you should just keep it out of your description when submitting galleries or trading traffic with other places.

cheers,

Luke

Thanks Luke for taking a look! I couldn't have done it without all of your marveous help in getting our hosting and domains setup! You're a gem of a guy in my book!

And shameless plug -- need hosting?? Talk to Luke!

You make me blush :blush: thanks for the nice compliment!


cheers,

Luke

I've given this advice before on tranny sites, but it's worth repeating:)

When you go to clubs it is "supposed" straight men who hit on trannys, not gay guys.

Likely any sales of tranny sponsors on a gay site are going to come from bisexual or gay curious surfers but not likely gay ones.