This week's site review ...

Hey all,

We've been trying to review one site a week here and it's been going pretty good. As per Lee's note in last week's thread we'd take the first URL posted in that thread for this week's review.

Lee's probably still in bed, so I'll take the initiative and get this baby moving. (If I'm bad, I'll present my bare bum for a spanking.)

Xstr8guy requested our help when he said, "This site doesn't covert for shit. Help!"
http://www.hairybearmovies.com/

Try and keep your comments helpful and constructive. And if you'd like your site reviewed next week, we'll take the first URL posted in this thread. However, please keep this week's comments to Hairy Bear Movies.

Cheers
Dzinerbear

Wow, this sounds like a great feature. I would love my site reviewed but you professionals would probably make me cry.

Anyway I would love to provide feedback for the site above, but I am on my way to the gym. When I get home I will have a look see. Again, This is a great idea here.

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Lee's probably still in bed

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Damn you know me to well LOL

Okay heres my review for Xstr8guy...

The first thing that strikes me is the 'color' of the page, i dont know much about the mature niche admittedly but, personally, i opt to change the color from a red to a brown, black or maybe even a grey. Because the site features barebacking to, i might even consider using a black and yellow color scheme (much like a warning sign) to give it a feel of the 'forbidden', if that makes sense?

The other thing on this page that id personally change it the 'join now' and the 'free video' links. They are to small, make em bigger so that they the the prominent things on the page :)

In addition, the oe movie preview that i did watch (the first one) gave it all away, why join a site to see the 'action' when it is already been shown for free on the tour? It just doesnt make sense to me and, im sure the surfers are thinking the same way.

IMHO, those clips need to be edited so that they cut off RIGHT BEFORE the guys shoot their load...

Get your surfers so worked up that they think they are going to see a guy shooting a wad of cum only to stop the clip at the most crucial part.. the cumshot.

Itll annoy a few of them but, at the same time, youll probably find they get so frustrated that they'll join to see the money shot ;)

Im also not a big fan of excessive scrolling on a tour page, you have a heap of 'white space' at the end of the tour which leads to a counter, if you must have that much scrolling space, in addition to a counter, throw up a 120x60 or a 468x60 banner on that part of the page to why send surfers to a counter for free when they can potentially be making you money? Another thing you might like to add in that area is a 'JOIN NOW' link :)

Other than that i actually quite like the tour, the images being used are clean and crisp unlike so many other 'reality style' tours and, you dont give to many of the images away either.

Id try and play with the color and definately cut those movie clips so they dont provide a cumshot.

Overall though, not a bad looking site.

Regards,

Lee

Ok, I took a look at the site. Well bears are not really my thing but i will do my best. I will have to agree with Lee about the long scoll to the counter. I don't know if you did that for any reason or what. Makes the site look allmost unfinished.

The tour seems good, I like the cum shots in the tour, I don't think it gives to much away. But then again I'm no expert on these kinds of porn sites. The color and layout seem good as well. I think if you can get more people into the site you will have no problem selling it.

You could add a webmaster program which would help draw more traffic in. Ok well I guess that's all I can think of right now. good luck :D

I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO not an expert on site design. But have to say the red on red overwhelmed me. And although my tastes generally run to the boys in Michael Jackson's (legal) porno collection, I don't think your two main models are all that hot...looking at some of your content I think there are better choices.

humm, maybe all that red is a bit brite. Maybe if you just changed the back ground and tour headers to black, and left the rest. Like this......

http://www.outboy.com/new.gif

Hmm, well for me I kind of agree with Lee on the colour scheme. A brown with yellow would be different and perhaps more pleasing to the eye.

As to the tours, I have to agree, get rid of that extra space but I'd also cut them down. I think they are way too long. Instead of 3 to 4 to a page I'd go with one.. making the page short load, snappy and each page different so it gives a better flow to your site having loads of content. Putting so much on each tour page makes it too busy in my mind.

I agree in principle that money shots need to be kept out of the free area, but some blend might not be a bad idea, perhaps one would be a compromise.

In my opinion (no expert by any means) a tour needs to be enticing in that it leaves you wanting to know more, which is why a person would join. I'd also change the 'links' in that I'd have one for members to login (giving a sense that a non member is missing out) plus instead of join i'd use 'instant access' to try and capitalize on the need to get in and see more with the last one being 'continue'. Not next or even adding preview or tour because eventually you want that link to end up at a join page. These three links in my view should be the last thing at the bottom and be visible in the first screen shot with a nice advertising head tag right above the whole three buttons.

My opinion is that too many cram too much into a tour. They try to show it all which really is counter productive. I mean yes you want to let the surfer know as much as possible, but i'd use more pages for two reasons.

One, it gives you more pages for the SE to crawl and list, adding to your position perhaps in the SERPS.

Two it gives a sense that you have a lot to offer to the surfer. It makes them feel that the site is complete and not a fly by night affair. Cramming so much into one or two pages doesn't do that.

Course this is just my warped view, after all I am blonde and drink coffe not lattes.

Ian

Hey Jim,

First thing I'd try is changing the models. No offense to Will West, but he's not all that "bear" in my books. Eric Evans is brawny enough to be called a "muscle bear." But West just never did it for me in my bear books. He hairy, older, and has a great cock, but that's another site. And every "bear" I go to has West on it (even mine) as if he's the only bear on the planet.

Second, the red's a bit on the pink side for my taste. Maybe try the traditional brown, yellow, orange colours associated with bear sites.

Third, I'd try getting rid of those faded pipeline things and try for cleaner lines and borders. I quite like the interface where the clips are, I just don't like those pipes.

Fourth, I find your cum tour at the top is lacking something, it's missing the layers upon layers that those tours always have. (That's what I call them anyway. And it's a look I've never been able to master them. ) Check out this one, everywhere you look, there's something to look at:

http://bearsexuality.com/maintour.php/1972/100/A

Cheers
Dzinerbear

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I am SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO not an expert on site design. But have to say the red on red overwhelmed me. And although my tastes generally run to the boys in Michael Jackson's (legal) porno collection, I don't think your two main models are all that hot...looking at some of your content I think there are better choices.

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OH MY GOD! It's Andy Dill! Boy do I love you! :)

I'm wish you were on my site. I have several of your Titan videos... big fan here.

Sorry to digress, I am a little star struck. I'll respond to the critiques in a few minutes... just had to gush over Andy for a moment. :)

Btw, what's with you liking young smooth guys? In my fantasies, you seem to like guys like me ;)

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Originally Posted by Xstr8guy

OH MY GOD! It's Andy Dill! Boy do I love you! :)

I'm wish you were on my site. I have several of your Titan videos... big fan here.

Sorry to digress, I am a little star struck. I'll respond to the critiques in a few minutes... just had to gush over Andy for a moment. :)

Btw, what's with you liking young smooth guys? In my fantasies, you seem to like guys like me ;)

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Oh my gosh, I think even my avatar is blushing! I bet we could work out some kind of deal so I could star on your site...I am a media whore (among other kinds) of course.

I do like the twinks cuz they're so pretty...but I like a real man cuz he knows what the fuck he's doing!

Im definetely not a pro, but im into Bears and im very picky about my porn, so I can give my 2 cents. : )

I wouldnt join that site. Most of the guys there dont turn me on. Maybe 50% of them are bears, the rest are just lean guys with a couple of hairs on their chest.
no facial hair, no belly, light body hair, then he's not a bear.

I think its a good tour, but it could be called Amateur men or gruff hairy guys, or Real blue collar Men or something other than bears.
When you say bear I expect to see all furry beefy bearded/goateed/stached masc guys. Even though I personally like bears I dont make bear sites because its extremely hard to find REAL bear content.

I dont like that guy on the left http://www.hairybearmovies.com/
That picture really bothers me, with his head tilted like that, it just kills the flow for me. He has no hardon. If I had a hardon when I came to your site, that picture took it away. Limp dicks really turn me off. I want to see hardons or bulges, or dont show below the waist and I can imagine what the guy has below.

Those 2 guys behind him on the left are hot though. Big juicy dicks, thats what I like to see.

If I were you id take the guys who are hot and really do look like bears and put them on 1 page, and get rid of the rest.
Youve got hot content there, just make it more prominent and get rid of the non-bears
youre better off having 1 page tour with HOT HOT irresistible bear men than 2 pages with so-so blah guys.

See what I mean
http://www.manhuntervideo.com/store/catalog/
its only 1 page, but those guys are bears and way hotter.

I would join this site too
http://www.topbear.com/preview/index.html


hth : )

first thing i see is the murkiness of the page. if you want a dark page, the pics should be brighter and crisper, or else bordered with white to counterbalance it.

second thing is the episode pics from the videos. half these guys aren't hairy at all. the ones who are hairy - the vidcaps aren't focusing on that. you need vidcaps that really show off those hairy chests, arms, etc. regarding the guys who are hairy - in a perfect world, i'd show hairy body and dick, but in a tradeoff, hairy comes first for me on a bear site. the big pic on a reality site should illustrate the niche, imo.

the buttons need to be clear and easy to read, not blurry. try white writing - it stands out. and your text describing each scene isn't easy to read. i'd put it on a background that is one color, and i'd try bold text.

nothing really stands out on the page for me. there's no really big text, the text between the episode tables isn't big or bright or noticeable. don't be afraid of bigger, bolder white text on a dark site - the idea of text is to stand out enough to help create a feeling of fantasy and immediacy.

and there ya have it - my review. hopefully it will be of some value to you.

OH MY GOD! I just wrote a super long reply and I screwed up and hit the back button and it's all gone! :(

I guess I'll reply in smaller chunks.

What a bunch of great folks around here! You all put so much energy into helping and had such great ideas!

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Originally Posted by Lee

The first thing that strikes me is the 'color' of the page

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I totally agree! I don't know what possessed my to go against my instincts on that. It's almost pink, lol

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Originally Posted by Lee

IMHO, those clips need to be edited so that they cut off RIGHT BEFORE the guys shoot their load...

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I will try non-cumshot clips and see how that works. I have another site with cumshot clips and it converts like a motherf___er, so I thought I would use that formula again.

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Originally Posted by Lee

Im also not a big fan of excessive scrolling on a tour page

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We seem to have a difference of opinion on that. ;) I love scrolling tours... not changing that aspect of the design. :)

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Originally Posted by outboy

I will have to agree with Lee about the long scoll to the counter. I don't know if you did that for any reason or what. Makes the site look allmost unfinished.

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Back in the day, AdultCheck required counters to be 30 page breaks down the page. And ever since then I've done that with my counters. I should stop doing that right now! Lol. I love gayrated stats, so I would like to keep the counter.

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I'd also change the 'links' in that I'd have one for members to login (giving a sense that a non member is missing out) plus instead of join i'd use 'instant access' to try and capitalize on the need to get in and see more with the last one being 'continue'. Not next or even adding preview or tour because eventually you want that link to end up at a join page. These three links in my view should be the last thing at the bottom and be visible in the first screen shot with a nice advertising head tag right above the whole three buttons.

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Thanks Ian! Very good insight into the buttons. I will definately take your advice with the redesign!

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Originally Posted by Dzinerbear

First thing I'd try is changing the models...

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My biggest problem with the site is that I tried to shoe-horn the content that I had into a domain name that I liked. The site is really more of a mature/daddy site. I should probably just move the content to another domain... don't ya think?

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Originally Posted by Dzinerbear

Third, I'd try getting rid of those faded pipeline things and try for cleaner lines and borders. I quite like the interface where the clips are, I just don't like those pipes.

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Yes, I hate the pipes too. ;)

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Originally Posted by Dzinerbear

Fourth, I find your cum tour at the top is lacking something, it's missing the layers upon layers that those tours always have. (That's what I call them anyway. And it's a look I've never been able to master them. )

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Lol, I can't design that way either. I'm certainly no Scorpio when it comes to design. But I quite like an uncluttered look... it makes sites stand out from the rest.

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Originally Posted by Marc

I wouldnt join that site. Most of the guys there dont turn me on. Maybe 50% of them are bears, the rest are just lean guys with a couple of hairs on their chest.
no facial hair, no belly, light body hair, then he's not a bear...

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I personally don't like heavy bears, but I believe in a less restrictive definition of "bears". Having said that, I don't think all of the content on the tour is appropriate... it's really more of a mature/daddy site.

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Originally Posted by basschick

first thing i see is the murkiness of the page. if you want a dark page, the pics should be brighter and crisper, or else bordered with white to counterbalance it.

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Lol, I think we all agree that color of the page needs to be changed. Since the images on the first page are screen caps, it's very hard to get them any criper or brighter without distorting them even more. The idea of a lighter border is a great idea.

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Originally Posted by basschick

the buttons need to be clear and easy to read, not blurry. try white writing - it stands out. and your text describing each scene isn't easy to read. i'd put it on a background that is one color, and i'd try bold text.

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I thought the buttons were the only good things on the tour. :( But your right, they are too hard to read (and to small).

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Originally Posted by basschick

there's no really big text, the text between the episode tables isn't big or bright or noticeable. don't be afraid of bigger, bolder white text on a dark site - the idea of text is to stand out enough to help create a feeling of fantasy and immediacy.

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Lol, I'm petrified of BIG text. I always thought it made a site look dated. I will give it a try though.



Thanks so much for all of your ideas. I can't wait to redesign it and show it to everybody!

it's possible that the place you bought the vids from can give you bigger vidcaps. if so, you can do a LOT to make them look damned good.

a lot of people are afraid of big text, but it sure does stand out and click better. i think most of us are trained to be subtle, but this is advertising - you need the messages to stand out. it's worth a try - you can always change them back ;)

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Originally Posted by Marc

Im definetely not a pro, but im into Bears and im very picky about my porn, so I can give my 2 cents. : )

I wouldnt join that site. Most of the guys there dont turn me on. Maybe 50% of them are bears, the rest are just lean guys with a couple of hairs on their chest.
no facial hair, no belly, light body hair, then he's not a bear.

hth : )

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Just a quik note. I agree that those aren't truly bears, they're more in the category of "Real Men". And since you try hard enough to make your point of "NO TWINKS", perhaps "Real Men" would be better than "Bears".

I'm also not a fan of red on websites. One, it's old news. Two, the color red itself is temper raising & aggravating to the viewer on a sub conscious level. It's just not a color to use on sites so dominantly.

But I'm also not a fan of Member Sites. Not with so many other sites with free access.

PapaBear

black and red - still my best selling colors. go figure!

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black and red - still my best selling colors. go figure!

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red is great for hardcore. It gets people excited
i heard that people spend more money on red products and eat more red foods.

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Originally Posted by Dzinerbear

Xstr8guy requested our help when he said, "This site doesn't covert for shit. Help!" http://www.hairybearmovies.com/

Try and keep your comments helpful and constructive.

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Here's a quick rundown of your site report. I hope this helps :high:

Download Times

Connection Rate Download Time
14.4K 580.81 seconds
28.8K 290.40 seconds
33.6K 248.92 seconds
56K 149.35 seconds
ISDN 128K 45.74 seconds
T1 1.44Mbps 3.97 seconds

As you can see, unless the surfer has a T1 connection the site will take close to a minute to load. Surfers typically have an attention span of 8 seconds or less (usally less lol) The XML and javascript your using to protect your content significantly increases the download time beyond what I listed above, as well as having to open connections for all the graphic files and transition effects you have.

IMAGES_SIZE - The total size of your images is 444704 bytes, which is over 100K. Consider optimizing your images for size, combining them, and replacing graphic rollovers with CSS. I think the 1/2 meg of graphics on the page make it load very slowly. I snagged some of your graphics and optimized them in photoshop and cut the size by 1/3 by selecting the 'save for web' option.

TOTAL_SIZE - The total size of this page is 749384 bytes, which will load in 149.35 seconds on a 56Kbps modem. Consider reducing total page size to less than 30K to achieve sub eight second response times on 56K connections. Pages over 100K exceed most attention thresholds at 56Kbps, even with feedback.

TOTAL_OBJECTS - The total number of objects on this page is 60 - consider reducing this to a more reasonable number. Combine, refine, and optimize your external objects. Replace graphic rollovers with CSS rollovers to speed display and minimize HTTP requests.

I think you give too much away on the page. Cock, cumshots etc. Anyone wanting to get off could easily do it on your graphics and videos. Not good for sales.

I'm a fan of transparent sites where people see an inaccessible version of the members page etc. I think this eases the minds of many surfers as they know what they'll get inside.

Awesome HOT content, great look and cool special effects. I think the reasons sales are flat ( listed above ) can easily be worked out. :thumbsup:

i've read that all over - including classes back when. good examples are marlboro, coca cola, and the classic campbell's soup cans.

in blind taste tests, they gave bunches of people two sodas. in reality, they were exactly the same except for the coloring. almost everyone found the red to be sweeter.

red can be a powerful color if used well...

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Originally Posted by Marc

red is great for hardcore. It gets people excited
i heard that people spend more money on red products and eat more red foods.

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I'd love to review the site, but i'm on dialup. When it's done loading in a few hours, I'll have a look. Yes, I realise the site isn't meant for people on dialup. Are there so few people using it now that it can be ignored? Maybe "enter, exit, dialup" will become the new standard.

Dial up? They still have that? :eek:

I have talked to Lee about this thread and I'm going to co-ordinate the list of sites people submit for review. It seems like a pretty good tool for webmasters and we don't want anyone to get lost in the shuffle. Also, we'll continue to do this once a week and that way the reviewers won't burn out.

I currently have two sites on the roster for future reviews. So if you'd like to add your site to the list, please PM me.

Cheers
Dzinerbear

Squirt, thanks for the speed analysis. The page loads in 4 seconds for me and I'm on DSL. I am real anal about not overcompressing images. But I will make the page load alot faster with the redesign.

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Originally Posted by Squirt

I'm a fan of transparent sites where people see an inaccessible version of the members page etc. I think this eases the minds of many surfers as they know what they'll get inside.

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I am a fan of transparent sites too, but I've never really been able to get my head around how to design them. Something for me to work on. :)


DigitalJay, the site is meant for surfers with broadband connections only. The movies inside the members area are full-length DVD's ripped into 4 or 5 scenes. I have yet to get a complaint about the length of the downloads. But I do agree that I need to speed up load times on the tour.


Basschick & Marc, now I'm really confused, lol. Should it be red or not? Until you two posted and said that red sells really well, I was going to go in a completely different direction. Maybe if I just "butched up" the red... got rid of the pinkish tones. Whattya think?

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Basschick & Marc, now I'm really confused, lol. Should it be red or not? Until you two posted and said that red sells really well, I was going to go in a completely different direction. Maybe if I just "butched up" the red... got rid of the pinkish tones. Whattya think?

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Well im not a designer, or an expert, but I surf bear porn all the time and i can tell you my porn buying opinion.

Ive been to bearwww.com and bear411.com everyday for years and I couldn't tell you what the colors of those sites are. Bsb.org and topbear.com have also gotten my money and I dont know the colors of those sites either. As a surfer all I care about is the pictures I see, and if theyre hot enough I want more and might pay for it.

As someone into bears, I would be tripping over myself to find my credit card and sign up to these sites immediately:
http://www.boysgalore.com/allyoung/2620bl_cir01.gif
http://www.5k0.com/hot-nude/hot-love...bear-lovin.jpg
http://www.thebestingaymen.com/ssbl.jpg

I would Never sign up for this hard bears site because those guys are clean shaven and too clean cut. http://www.stationporn.com/max-hardbears.jpg

So it doesnt matter to me the colors, only the pictures of the guys.

On your current site you have a lot of clean shaven guys. I cant stress how important facial hair is.
Think Carl Hardwick, Jack Radcliffe, Buster.
In San Francisco ALL the bears have facial hair. The bigger and bushier the beard and furrier the body, the better. Thats what the audience wants.

I totally agree with basschick though that if you use a darker color then your images need to be bright, otherwise the whole page looks shadowy and blurry.

Xstr8guy - the red i'm talking about that sells is bright red like a marlboro package. that is the red that sells, not other kinds of reds.

btw, before you go crazy on changing everything, why not talk to your video provider and see if you can get bigger vidcaps - and preferably of hairy shots. regardless of page color, hairier guys SHOWING their hairiness in the pics is what will catch the eye best of a guy looking for hairy men.

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Originally Posted by Xstr8guy

Squirt, thanks for the speed analysis. The page loads in 4 seconds for me and I'm on DSL.

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goto a blank page in your browser, then clear your cache. Type in your domain, hit enter, and press ctrl reload on the browser. You images and scripts are already in your cache, that's why your dowlaod speed is 4 seconds. I did your site report on http://www.websiteoptimization.com/services/analyze/ . When I went to your site personally on my computer it took close to 30 seconds. So on someones first visit to your site that's on ADSL / DSL it takes a while to load.

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Originally Posted by Xstr8guy

I am a fan of transparent sites too, but I've never really been able to get my head around how to design them. Something for me to work on. :)

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It's easy just copy your members page, change all the links to your join page and make that page one of your tour pages. But if you're thin on content to do that lol

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Originally Posted by Squirt

It's easy just copy your members page, change all the links to your join page and make that page one of your tour pages. But if you're thin on content to do that lol

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I've been recommending this for a long time, but everyone says "no, no, surfers want a glossy tour that gives no real concept of what the members area is like, with made up lame stories to go along with overused photosets" fuckin jackasses. Squirt's suggestion is the only way to do it right imo. Or you can keep doing "glossy" tours that resemble a million sites that have totally ripped people off by having a horrid members area.

That's NOT directed at you X, just a general rant. For one of the BEST examples of how it's done right, take a look at http://www.suicidegirls.com
People will respond with "that site is too busy, surfers are simple idiots and like glossy dvd cover looking tours" or other such bullshit but I promise you this site does huge business, and they know what they are doing.

there are plenty of beautiful, glossy sites out there making sales - and if the tour is similar and the content doesn't suck, they make rebills.

there is no one design formula.

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Originally Posted by Marc

On your current site you have a lot of clean shaven guys. I cant stress how important facial hair is.
Think Carl Hardwick, Jack Radcliffe, Buster.
In San Francisco ALL the bears have facial hair. The bigger and bushier the beard and furrier the body, the better. Thats what the audience wants.

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Marc, I agree with you completely! I am not someone who doesn't understand the niche. Check out my avatar... I'm a bear myself, although not heavy... just heavier than I want to be. ;) I could be hairier, but I always have some kind of facial hair. I'm even on bear411.

My problem is with content. I would kill to have Jack Radcliffe on my site, but until I'm A LOT more successful, that ain't happening. I get most of the movie content on that site from Deluxepass and they just don't have a great selection. I also supplement the DeluxePass content with movies from World Wide Content and Adult Legal... and they don't even have a good selection!

I said in previous post that this site really needs to move to a different domain. Hairybearmovies.com is definately not a good name for the current content. It really was just wishful thinking on my part.

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Originally Posted by Squirt

goto a blank page in your browser, then clear your cache. Type in your domain, hit enter, and press ctrl reload on the browser. You images and scripts are already in your cache, that's why your dowlaod speed is 4 seconds.

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I did that and the site still loads in 4 or 5 seconds. I must have a kick-ass DSL connection. :)


* edited I just did a DSL speed test on dslreports.com. Evidently I do have a kickass DSL connection... 1633kbps down.

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Originally Posted by Xstr8guy

I said in previous post that this site really needs to move to a different domain. Hairybearmovies.com is definately not a good name for the current content. It really was just wishful thinking on my part.

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you have pm

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Originally Posted by Xstr8guy

I did that and the site still loads in 4 or 5 seconds. I must have a kick-ass DSL connection. :)


* edited I just did a DSL speed test on dslreports.com. Evidently I do have a kickass DSL connection... 1633kbps down.

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Damn I want one of those! Thing is most the people surfing your site probably don't have that either. Just trying to help you out big guy :groovy:

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Originally Posted by Squirt

Damn I want one of those! Thing is most the people surfing your site probably don't have that either. Just trying to help you out big guy :groovy:

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You are correct, I was under the assumption that all DSL connections were as fast as mine. I guess I'm spoiled and I need to remember those that are less fortunate. ;)

myself i think the color is to much you should tone it down a little. Also the way i feel about hard core on the shell, I keep on saying why pay for the cow when you get the milk for free. I'm not into bears so I can't say anything about the models

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Originally Posted by Marc

On your current site you have a lot of clean shaven guys. I cant stress how important facial hair is.
Think Carl Hardwick, Jack Radcliffe, Buster.
In San Francisco ALL the bears have facial hair. The bigger and bushier the beard and furrier the body, the better. Thats what the audience wants.

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AMEN!! For some of us, the facial hair IS the fetish . . .

. . .I quite enjoy your avatar, XStr8guy, BECAUSE of your beard :)

Dart

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AMEN!! For some of us, the facial hair IS the fetish . . .

. . .I quite enjoy your avatar, XStr8guy, BECAUSE of your beard :)

Dart

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Haha, thanks. I must admit that I have a facial hair fetish. Right now my partner and I are growing big bushy mustaches like our idol Jamie Hyneman from the Discovery Channel's Mythbusters.