Is The Adult Industry Killing Blogs?

I saw a review of a thread topic on another board and it caught my eye.

With everyone (it would seem) in the adult industry starting their own blog to get surfer traffic which, is ultimately sent off to their adult sponsors, do you think we are going to kill off the effectiveness of blogs?

To me, it seems like we are doing with blogs, what happened with TGP's several years ago, everyone jumped on the TGP bandwagon and now TGP traffic has dwindled and been diluted to almost worthless. Is the same going to happen to blog traffic?

Just out of interest, how many of the GWW community members have their own blog that they use to send their surfers to adult paysites?

If you have your for longer than a year, have you noticed your conversion ratios from the blog traffic slipping as your site visitors get higher?

Your thoughts?

Regards,

Lee

To me blogs are something totally un-necessary... I don't get them... I don't get the people who read those blogs and I certainly don't get the people who write them...

I'm not even sure what's their purpose in adult industry...

Blogs Remind Me Of These "Scratch-Books" We Had In High School Where We Would Write A Question..."When Was Your First Time , Describe?"...And Everyone You Passed It To Would Write Something In It "Annonomously" , It Made For Some "Interesting Reading" If Of Course You Have The Time To Read.
I See Blogs Everywhere And Other Than The "Porn Star" Ones I Barely Have Time To Read It All.
I'm Not Going To Totally Rule Out Blogs , They Appeal To The Consumer On A Personal Level Giving Them Something To "Identify" With ( Oh Yeah! , I've Done That! ) , Also Some Find The "Erotic Writings" Stimulating Especially If It Comes From The Pages Of Their Favortie Porn Star About His Most "Intimate Moments"...Time For A Shower!

Sincerely ~ Dear Blog , I'm Still In Love With Errol Flynn! :rolleyes:

Well I have been toying with the idea of doing a blog, but to be honest, I just don't get them. Seems in many ways they are a slimmed down forum and given how easy it is to install a forum, i just don't get sites who do that other than for the SE traffic..

...and don't Google own or recently buy out a big blog operation? If so, don't expect blogs to diminish too quickly. Wonder if Yahoo and MSN will also jump on that bandwagon? If so, then perhaps the traffic will be less productive though I have to say that TGP traffic isnt all that bad. A lot still depends I think on what the traffic winds up at, if its crap then the surfer doesn't join, but is that from the source of traffic or simply that perhaps over time the surfer has gotten smarter and more selective?

just my scotch soaked opinion.. (the fumes could kill I tell ya)

Ian

Yes, Google bought Blogger


if you want to see the future of the blogs and google and msn and what not... then check this flash movie:

http://epic.makingithappen.co.uk/ols-master.html

It's interesting, fun, informative and scary and gives you a bit of perspective what's the whole purpose behind Blogs and why did Google buy this Blogger...

If you read about it on the boards, ITS TOO LATE!

Porn blogs (fake life journals... whatever) are actually nothing new. Various formats of them date back at least 9 years.

I'm sure some people make money with them though, but the time invested into it must be huge.

Yeah! , 9 Years Sounds About Right Since I Graduated High School! :goof:

Sincerely ~ Forever Young!

Of course. The adult industry kills just about everything it touches. Take for example, e-mail and how full of adult spam it is, pop-up windows (the most hated thing on the planet), "free porn." We eventually kill everything.

TGPs are approaching the end of their life cycle. Video on Demand will be the next big thing to hit the dirt, in my opinion. It might take a couple of more years, but with everyone and his brother opening up a VOD theatre system, it won't be long.

Dzinerbear

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Of course. The adult industry kills just about everything it touches.

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You know i think that about sums it up perfectly.

This is even more apparent with so many 'adult' webmasters trying to branch out in to 'mainstream' webmastering, pretty soon the net will be nothing but a clusterfuck of people trying to make a dime off everyone else LOL

Regards,

Lee

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With everyone (it would seem) in the adult industry starting their own blog to get surfer traffic which, is ultimately sent off to their adult sponsors, do you think we are going to kill off the effectiveness of blogs?

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Well if someone runs a blog that pertains to the adult industry, it would be effective if they make it so. I do not see how the overall number of blogs on a particular subject really matters.

I do wish that Google would adjust its ranking algorithm so that thinly-written blogs and message boards cease elbowing out old-fashioned actual HTML pages with written articles and lengthy essays on them. I have a candle burning in the window right now representing my hopes that day arrives soon.

Actually this is not so much a problem with FriskyFans, for me. But I encounter the often with my cooking site. They need to compensate this, and weigh it accordingly. MSN and Yahoo does not have this problem.

Steve

So do you guys really think that TGP's are really not that effective anymore? Just wondering....

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So do you guys really think that TGP's are really not that effective anymore? Just wondering....

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Absolutely.

It used to be i could submit a gallery to the top 5 TGPs on my submissions list and convert on a sponsor such as maxcash @ 1:75 (MAX) nowadays, webmasters are doing very well if they convert at 1:500 on TGP traffic with the same sponsors they used 3 or 4 years ago.

Of course, 'todays' adult webmaster doesnt realize this because they werent around when the 'golden age' of porn was nearing its end and they think that 1:500 - 1:2000 is acceptable for TGP conversions. Which to be fair, by todays standards, is acceptable but go back 3 or 4 years and you'd be told you were doing something wrong with conversions ovr 1:500.

Regards,

Lee

I was told by someone that I should start building TGP's. Do you think that they are still worth it? I mean, they might not convert like they used to but are they still a good traffic source?

Yes, TGP submissions are worthwhile if a conversion ratio of 500+ is worth the time and effort spent to you. It's free advertising, other than the cost of any additional paid content.

Is the adult industry spoiling blogs? Perhaps any marketer, adult or regular, spoils a tool like a blog if the blog adds no real value for the user. I ran across a PR 5 blog this week that stopped new entries last summer. The blog author found hundreds of marketing/spam (adult and regular) comments to her last entry, so she just turned off the add function.

I do a once in a while blog at livejournal.com mostly announcing what's going on with my websites and any big personal changes. I don't think it gets much traffic.

not really

I think what would happen is the better blogs would rock and would have a lot more people visiting thanks to the shitty blogs cause people won't go around looking knowing they'll most likely find nothing

500 conversion ratio on TGP? That's a good one

I think 1:2000+ is more of what you'd probably get


why build TGPs, especially only TGPs, everyone and their mother wants to give shit free to the wankers, more of them get off and less of them buy. Do AVS sites.

Or you can do very softcore galleries and free sites, crop the pics and put only as softcore as possible

I don't see how adult will kill blogs.
Blogs can stay pretty independent from one another, and so long as a blog is written well and gains an audience for itself it shouldn't really be at the mercy of any other blog, any blogging trends, nor should it really have any effect whatsoever on other blogs.

Blogs are a completely different beast than TGPs and they're nothing alike. The pretext of blogs, the premise and context and audience and what they're made up of is nothing like what a TGP has.

Sure you could have an infinite number of pointless and stupid blogs out there but... who cares? They'll have no bearing on any of the other blogs out there. They'll in no way affect any other blogs. Blogs gain an audience and following for reasons entirely different than what a TGP might and so what's happened with TGPs or even anything else really isn't an indicator of what might happen to blogs.

If a blog is devoid of content and interesting reading or something that makes it worth going to... then that blog itself will get thrown by the wayside. But it won't effect any other blogs, much less the entire blogging community as a whole.

I have a number of search terms involving AVS tracked by Board Tracker, and every day I see posts on a variety of boards where people say something like this: I haven't done AVS for a while, and TGPs just aren't cutting it, what's the best AVS these days?

This is significant. And I think it suggests that while TGPs are good for some webmasters, for many more, they're not the golden chalice they were considered. I think one of the big problems with TGPs is traffic trading. I believe that if a surfer doesn't get the gallery he wanted when he clicks a TGP thumbnail, then that TGP owner is contributing to the downfall of his own product. A surfer wants a gallery, he does not want to be trading away to some other TGP. A surfer will leave that TGP with a bad experience, and if this continues to happen, eventually, they will stop surfing all TGPs. Likewise, is a surfer isn't getting the "free" porn he's promised, he'll leave with a bad taste in his mouth, pardon the pun.

Everyone jumped on the reality site bandwagon. The straight side of the business pretty much killed that one with their stupid reality sites with themes like guys turned gay or straight guy duped in sucking a cock. The gay side of the biz never really picked up the reality site motif. There are so many good ideas that could fly if they were executed properly.

I think one of the big problems with this business is there are too many people mourning the good old days when you could put up 10 pictures on a page and say, "Buy this AVS membership," and pull in $6k a month. Instead of working hard and steady on an idea or project, I think too many people over promise and undeliver in an attempt to pull in huge bucks like the good ole days. We keep chasing this what-used-to-be until we run an idea into the ground. "Hey, this link list is pulling in good traffic and sales, if I have 50 of them, I'll make 50 times as much money." Wrong. You saturate the market with link lists so surfers don't find them useful because they've all got exactly the same listings.

And look at the large numbers of people who come here from the straight side of the business looking to make a quick buck. "I hear gay traffic converts better than straight." Maybe it does and maybe it doesn't, but you still have to bust your ass off to build a quality product and you've still got to get the traffic.

The best thing we could tell people wanting to break into this business is this: Are you willing to work 12 hours a day and make $50 a month for the first year?

Cheers,
Dzinerbear

I have couple blogs now
real reason why i open them is couse of worth links on them wich will help me to get my review site higher ranked on SE,at least that is my plan:)