For streaming?
http://www.apple.com/mpeg4/
http://www.m4if.org/
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...cdownload.aspx
And what's your opinion on it ?
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For streaming?
http://www.apple.com/mpeg4/
http://www.m4if.org/
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...cdownload.aspx
And what's your opinion on it ?
I'm certainly no video expert. but aren't DivX and XviD Mpeg4 derivatives? If so, then yes they are used quite often.
Oh Hello CB, nice to meet you :) I'm not real big on posting in the "welcome" threads, lol.
Reason I ask is ive visited some tgp post and when i click on videos to view they are all viewable. I just recently started using MPEG for testing a few days ago. I got the codec like 2 months ago but hadn't had time to try it out. I did a test and I was not able to play it until I upgraded my quicktime to the new version on their site. I also went to the microsoft site and downloaded the codec for media player. The the file extensions are .mp4 and they play after that. So since i havent seen any tgp's that are using .mp4 I beleive they are still on MPEG1.
my last computer was unable to view mpg4's without an update - same with this one. that's why i don't use them. i want the most people to be able to see our videos.
divx and xivd are based on H.263 and MPEG-4 or whatever, they're MPEG-4 yes
The new MPEG-4 part 10/H.264 AVC by Apple is pretty damn good. I tested it with Nero recode and while the encoder itself is kinda crappy and doesn't give me the options I want, the quality vs size is great
H.264 will be included in the next Apple OSX and it will be some time before it makes it to windows in a Quicktime 7 form.
and Btw ......... WMV is not MPEG-4 compliant
another thing H.264 is the standart for Blue Ray and HD-DVD. DirecTV I believe will be moving to MPEG-4 soon, with the launch of their HDTV satellites
my digital cam does short videos in mpeg-4 format, I have been having a bugger of a time with those videos, I had to install quicktime....but did you know that you can't just install quicktime anymore, you have to install iTunes.
Personally I was rather pissed off with this, I **HATE** it when a program forces you to install a whole load of other shit alongside, all of which feel they are so important that they add themselves to your startup groups via the registry and remain resident in memory wasting your resources.
anyhoo...if I had those problems I figure it would piss off my surfers so I have avoided it.
cheers,
Luke
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SO WHAT FORMAT DO U USE LUKE, .WMV OR MPEG1?
you can install quicktime standalone
there's a link on the download page, but you have to look a little harder to find it
Curious bunny you could use either WMV or MPEG1, the latter is compatible with MAC while WMV is known to have problems with some Mac users
MPEG will play on real player, Windows MP, and Quicktime.
WMV will not play at all in Quicktime I dont use a Mac and I dont have any experience with them I dont know if they offer a different player besides quicktime that will let them play .wmv
I'm not an Apple guy either but I think Windows Media Player for Mac is widely used.
I try to stick to plain old mpeg1, but also use wmv when its embedded in a tour just to cut down on the size of the download by everyone and their dog. Its funny I got an email just this week from a member thanking me for using mpeg1 cuz he knew for sure that it was compatable with his mac.
I am not saying that embracing new technology is a bad idea, but just be prepared to do a lot more support and deal with more refunds/chargebacks on paysite accounts.
cheers,
Luke
I really like the mp4 format. It compresses down nicely and the quality is very good. The only problem is that most people simply can't play this format as of today. I'm using a php gallery and it would not accept the mp4 files. Called it an invalid format.
Most of the time I use Imovie (mac) to convert dv to .mov files. Quicktime files are rather large with so-so quality. Not impressed with avi's at all. They take forever to convert. I really like .rm and .wmv for the best output with final cut pro.
curiousbunny - why decide between them? in our member area, we use mpg and wmv.
MPEG-4 part 10/H.264 AVC/ with MP4 container aren't exactly finalized as of yet, but it's pretty close.
Interestingly I have a friend in Connecticut who played my Mp4 samples with no problem
As Xstr8guy pointed out, Windows does have an mp player for the mac. It works nicely. The only problem I have is that there is no bar to manipulate to jump forward or back. It's not a big deal but all in all wmv's are a nice format to work with.Quote:
Originally Posted by curiousbunny
Have you ever tried the VLC player ? When all else fails, it's what I use for last resort video files.
I just tried a test on my mac. Firefox loaded a small video clip with no problem with quicktime. Both safari and IE 5 for mac could not read it. I guess it's gonna be a little while longer before it becomes a standard format.Quote:
Originally Posted by jIgG
We get constant complaints from our members with Macs. It seems that Windows Media for Mac is a sometimes solution that, I'm told, is buggy and unreliable. (Why does this not surprise me, given that it's a Microsoft product?)
Right now, we're only offering WMV but we are also experimenting with Flash Video (which Sorenson Squeeze encodes nicely) and may go back to Quicktime.
Kewl its nice 2 post on here and get opinions :)Quote:
Originally Posted by basschick
I wanted 2 know what you guys are using or what is more common.
Thanks for the feedback. Nice 2 learn something new everyday. :light:
I have a live feed/chat program that streams using mpeg4 and its the fastest ive seen on the net
25 fps on dsl
tastest doesn't count if lots of members can't see your feed...
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