Moving out of the USA

[tombarr]

If a company in the adult industry wanted to move offshore .... where would be the best place to go that would answer the following concerns?

1. Liberal porn laws
2. Good banking system open to expatriate corporations
3. incorporation laws that allow foreign porn companies
4. able to obtain visa/mc merchant accounts
5. adult hosting companies
6. favorable or bearable taxation system

Any one with experience in this area that can offer suggestions?

[dannyz]

Tom,

Great questions. I'm not experienced, but do have some friends in the industry that have given me advice.

Here's some countries I've been told could answer at least the majority of your concerns:

Panama
Cook Islands
Isle of Man
Sweden (hear they have good laws in regards to porn, not so sure about their taxation system)

We are currently seeking a similar solution and looking at different options as well. Hope to get some more help from this thread.

Cheers

[collegeboyslive]

you also forgot fast relaiable and cheap internet access. not good if your servers are running on a 56K dialup

[tombarr]

Oops., yeah, forgot that the hosting companies need fat pipes ..

would not want to have a sluggish box ..

[collegeboyslive]

LOL i am waiting for one small country to see the perfect business opertunity in front of it and get soem fat pipes and offer porn freinly hosting / location / banking , just like these small countries sell domains

[SeXXXydesign]

mnn Argentina is good for most of your requirements but one
1. Liberal porn laws---yes... no problem with that
2. Good banking system open to expatriate corporations----You go thru financial companies to move money out.. 80% of business is done under the table
3. incorporation laws that allow foreign porn companies ---yes.. but with 10k cash you can become a citizen so no problem
4. able to obtain visa/mc merchant accounts--THIS is the problem.. no good in that
5. adult hosting companies--- its going to be more expensive than in the us but we have good fast speed conections here
6. favorable or bearable taxation system--nobady pays taxes so its great

:mexican: :mexican: :3ymca: :bush:

[tombarr]

LOL i am waiting for one small country to see the perfect business opertunity in front of it and get soem fat pipes and offer porn freinly hosting / location / banking , just like these small countries sell domains

Good idea! let's buy an island, name it...oh say, Pornocopia, incoroporate it as a country, and start up a porn hosting haven...we could have beach parties, web cams, street parties...

now who want's to be president? Bill's available now isn't he?

[collegeboyslive]

LOL i want to know which of you will be 1st lady

[Dzinerbear]

You may want to talk to chadknowslaw, he's done some extensive research on this, I believe.

dzinerbear

[chadknowslaw]

There is no one place to relocate. I have helped companies relocate, and each one is different. All the factors listed need to be considered, plus more. Is there good transportation, airports, hospitals, schools, secure banking, stable currency, what are the inflationary concerns, how stable is the government, even if porn is OK is the area gay friendly? You can't get the answers to all those questions from a bulletin board post!
Relocating cannot be taken lightly. It must be done right and to do so is typically very expensive. Even opening a branch company in a new country takes a lot of research before finding good locations--and there rarely is one location that is perfect. Sweden is porn-friendly and the society is accepting of gays. There are also very accepting of your profits in the form of taxation and if you intend to drink there your liquor bills will be astronimical. I recall paying $8 for a glass of beer in 1996 when college bars were letting students drink all night for $5 on "drink and drown " nights in the United States. Milk was $10 a gallon and gasoline $8. The standard of living was great but the cost of living was high, and in Sweden Winter=4 months of darkness.
Islands sound great but after a few months can become monotonous. If you live in Guam, you can walk the beach around the entire island in one day. If you like watching birds in your spare time, Guam is not the place since no birds live there anymore due to non-indigenous snake infestations and flying 8 hours to Hawaii means you are almost half way to Grandma's house for Thanksgiving. Family ties get very strained if you live on the other side of the planet.
Belize would be nice place for a gambling site or straight site but they aren't very happy with homos in their midst. Some Caribbean countries have attractive corporate and banking facilities but at least one will deport you, brand your passport and seize your bank account if the authorities discover you are marketing pornography.
If, after all this, you STILL think you are interested in moving offshore, give me a shout.

[longboardjim]

There is no one place to relocate. I have helped companies relocate, and each one is different. All the factors listed need to be considered, plus more. Is there good transportation, airports, hospitals, schools, secure banking, stable currency, what are the inflationary concerns, how stable is the government, even if porn is OK is the area gay friendly? You can't get the answers to all those questions from a bulletin board post!
Relocating cannot be taken lightly. It must be done right and to do so is typically very expensive. Even opening a branch company in a new country takes a lot of research before finding good locations--and there rarely is one location that is perfect. Sweden is porn-friendly and the society is accepting of gays. There are also very accepting of your profits in the form of taxation and if you intend to drink there your liquor bills will be astronimical. I recall paying $8 for a glass of beer in 1996 when college bars were letting students drink all night for $5 on "drink and drown " nights in the United States. Milk was $10 a gallon and gasoline $8. The standard of living was great but the cost of living was high, and in Sweden Winter=4 months of darkness.
Islands sound great but after a few months can become monotonous. If you live in Guam, you can walk the beach around the entire island in one day. If you like watching birds in your spare time, Guam is not the place since no birds live there anymore due to non-indigenous snake infestations and flying 8 hours to Hawaii means you are almost half way to Grandma's house for Thanksgiving. Family ties get very strained if you live on the other side of the planet.
Belize would be nice place for a gambling site or straight site but they aren't very happy with homos in their midst. Some Caribbean countries have attractive corporate and banking facilities but at least one will deport you, brand your passport and seize your bank account if the authorities discover you are marketing pornography.
If, after all this, you STILL think you are interested in moving offshore, give me a shout.

so much of what chad has said is true since i also "entertained" the idea of leaving the U.S but unfortunately as stated you give up one problem for another so always weigh your options carefully before leaping from the frying pan into the fire!
we always have to quarantine the planes arriving from guam because those damn snakes are always slithering up the landing gear while parked and hitching a ride to hawaii.

sincerely ..."there's no place like home! , there's no place like home!"...

p.s ~ don't ask me where my hidden rebel base is located! :goof:

[Madame0120]

Hold on there gents!

What we need is an island, run like a hotel and facilitated by a staff of grand ole Fag Hags!
All you guys got to do is frolic, make money, turn it over to the ladies, sos you don’t piss it away and it just might work!

Sanctuary Isle of Smut

With enough acreage to add on small 2 BR 2 Bath cabanas w/ mini kitchens I can envision so many business models I'm wigglin'. Ooo just off-setting rental of pvt cam studio time with divine Service from tasty males, has me starting to get all ... well never mind.

Mmm- may I project?

Come along with me to Sanctuary, an island of pleasure and peace with a tax-system we could all learn to love. Order, graciousness and towel boys (over the age of consent) abound, in Sanctuary.

Sigh .. I hope that BigBrother doesn't get his way .. before I got the down payment.

[Chilihost]

If you need help relocating your hosting, we can setup a decicated server for you in one of the most liberal adult hosting places in the world
Plus, I will personally help any of my clients with advice on how to setup offshore companies, billing, etc, as I do have a bit of experience doing this!

cheers,
Luke

[basschick]

some have accused me of fag hagism, but - call me crazy - i would rather frolic than clean up and cook

Hold on there gents!

What we need is an island, run like a hotel and facilitated by a staff of grand ole Fag Hags!
All you guys got to do is frolic, make money, turn it over to the ladies, sos you don’t piss it away and it just might work!

Sanctuary Isle of Smut

With enough acreage to add on small 2 BR 2 Bath cabanas w/ mini kitchens I can envision so many business models I'm wigglin'. Ooo just off-setting rental of pvt cam studio time with divine Service from tasty males, has me starting to get all ... well never mind.

Mmm- may I project?

Come along with me to Sanctuary, an island of pleasure and peace with a tax-system we could all learn to love. Order, graciousness and towel boys (over the age of consent) abound, in Sanctuary.

Sigh .. I hope that BigBrother doesn't get his way .. before I got the down payment.

[Doctor Dre]

If you need help relocating your hosting, we can setup a decicated server for you in one of the most liberal adult hosting places in the world
Plus, I will personally help any of my clients with advice on how to setup offshore companies, billing, etc, as I do have a bit of experience doing this!

cheers,
Luke