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    Xstr8guy
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    What was this guy smoking? (Xbiz article)

    http://xbiz.com/article_piece.php?cat=40&id=10447

    I started to read this article and I thought it was a nice optimistic piece... until it started to slowly (d)evolve into a demented nightmare involving bestiality and Disney. WTF?!

    It's almost like the article got hacked half-way through or the author's mushrooms kicked in. Weird!


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    You do realize by 'gay' I mean a man who has sex with other men?
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    LOL his shrooms kicked in or, he started running out of stuff to say, a bit of 'shock and awe' never hurt anyone

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    Lee


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    I don't understand what your talking about, Disney made touchstone to get around making R rated movies and not hurting their name in family movies and still make the money that they offer, it fits in with the topic of extreme or shock porn sites. The ruling that was passed down is a good thing, or at least a start to put the religous right in their place!
    The main problem is the merging of church and state, it's not suppose to happen, the founding fathers didn't want it to ever happen, because of other countries that were controlled by the church in history, no rights!


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    Vendzilla, I just thought that the last half of the article turned a very strange corner.

    I highly doubt that any major studio is going to start releasing hardcore movies now. There is a big difference between R-rated movies and hardcore porn. Could you imagine how that would rally the christian right crazies?? There would be massive, very effective boycotts of an major studio that produced porn movies. And not to mention how the shareholders would feel about XXX movies on the balance sheet. It will never happen... not in a million years!


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    I think Jeffrey Douglas is way off the mark. "There will be more violence, more perversion, even more appealing to fragmented markets. Shock value likely will define the new emerging market." Hellloooooo mainstream television, and media in general, have already reach this threshhold! He's talking about the past being the future.

    'And if there is no threat of obscenity prosecutions, the prices will come down, way down. If all you are putting out is shock value material, productions costs will be low. You can undercut the price of mainstream businesses that are paying two or three actors, instead of an actor and sheepdog. More importantly, the last barrier to entry into the adult entertainment business will be gone. " Um wrong. The more "shock value" the material has, the more the "actors" are paid, they'll demand it, as they do today.

    "It is likely that there will be consolidation of existing enterprises. Labels will be swallowed up by the bigger players because of the difficulties of low prices and new market forces. The better businesses will thrive, those with better marketing and more efficient operations, and gobble up the "back of the herd." This has happened before, it will happen again. Some new technology comes along and small companies popup all over the place and kick ass, Pixar for example. Then after things settle down.. the smaller companies are bought out by the bigger ones. Search engines are another example. This is nothing new or dramatic, it's the way business always works.

    And his closing line "The predictions of this article may well be wrong, but it is in your best interest to think about a future where the only forces defining your product line are the sexual fantasies of the audience, rather than the sexual fears of censors. " Any decent adult business in existance today runs this way. You appease the fantasies of your audience. If things are to freaky for you, or not your scene, that's not your audience. This article didn't tell the future, it describes the past and present, nothing new. IMHO


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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirt
    appease the fantasies of your audience. If things are to freaky for you, or not your scene, that's not your audience. This article didn't tell the future, it describes the past and present, nothing new. IMHO
    Agreed.

    The problem is, a lot of the people who write these articles for resources, dont acually build sites, market sites, or have any kind of knowledge of the industry outside their own little area thus, the 'information' they provide is old or out-dated at best.

    Regards,

    Lee


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    Quote Originally Posted by Xstr8guy
    Vendzilla, I just thought that the last half of the article turned a very strange corner.

    I highly doubt that any major studio is going to start releasing hardcore movies now. There is a big difference between R-rated movies and hardcore porn. Could you imagine how that would rally the christian right crazies?? There would be massive, very effective boycotts of an major studio that produced porn movies. And not to mention how the shareholders would feel about XXX movies on the balance sheet. It will never happen... not in a million years!
    Take a look at the bigger BIGGER picture here, companies like GM are the major share holders of small porn companies, like softcore pics on HBO and Showtime, or the Payperveiw on hotel cable channels and home PPV. This brings in Millions! They protect their good name by building other companies as fronts, for Disney to put out "R" rated movies, they had to protect themselves, everyone knows their the owners, but as long as it doesn't say Disney on it, not very many will complain about it, and touchstone makes money! It isn't about the difference between Hardcore and softcore or even an "R" rated movie, it's about "adult" being more and more accepted in society.
    The Religous Right is not after the major porn studios in a frontal atack, they are after our business right now, for years assholes have been flooding little johnnies email account with MILF sites and Horse fucking and little Johnnies mom is pissed, she lives in the bible belt and is complaining to her congressman, he in turn has a president that has time to deal with this because he's not going thru an impeachment trial. If we could stop the spamming, it would improve our standing as a business. But it's too late now, we can't do it ourselves, so the government is stepping in to do it for us!


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