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    Texans Are Obsessed With The Gay Lifestyle

    WASHINGTON - Texas’ vote Tuesday on same-sex marriage places the Lone Star State in the thick of a social and political clash that has already engulfed at least a third of the country and will undoubtedly intensify in next year’s congressional elections.

    Texas is the only state with a proposed gay marriage ban on the ballot this year, making it a national focal point in the battle between two polar-opposite forces in American politics: Christian conservatives and the gay rights movement. At least four states will confront the issue in 2006.

    From the conservative perspective, the political appeal of outlawing same-sex marriages became overwhelmingly apparent last year when constitutional bans like the one proposed in Texas were adopted in all 11 states where they were on the ballot, by margins reaching more than six-to-one.

    The issue boosted Republican turnout, helped secure President Bush’s re-election and contributed to the political demise of then-Senate Democratic Leader Tom Daschle, D-S.D., who bucked political sentiments in his home state to fight a proposed U.S. constitutional ban on gay marriages.

    "If you think Social Security reform is the third rail of American politics, try coming out for gay marriage,” said Robert Knight, director of the Culture and Family Institute, a conservative public policy organization based in Washington. "It’s a far more powerful issue.”

    While conservatives push their agenda from the right, a broad coalition of left-of-center groups are energized from the other direction in behalf of the gay rights movement. Propelled by their 2003 triumph -- when a court ruling made Massachusetts the first state to permit same-sex marriages -- gay and lesbian groups are battling to open the door in other states through lawsuits and legislative action.

    In September, the California State Assembly became the first legislature to allow gays and lesbians to marry, but Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed the measure.

    A similar proposal is pending in the New York State Assembly, and courts in at least six states are considering lawsuits to permit marriages between same-sex couples.

    Gay rights organizations are also united in a counteroffensive against the state-by-state spread of bans on same-sex marriages.

    In addition to the proposed constitutional amendment in Texas, voters in Alabama, South Carolina, South Dakota and Tennessee are expected to decide on the issue in 2006. Proposed constitutional and statutory bans are also moving through legislatures in at least seven states.

    In Texas, the proposed marriage amendment is the only high-profile issue on Tuesday’s ballot and has attracted intense national interest from groups on both sides of the issue.

    The proposed amendment, aimed at fortifying the state’s 2003 Defense of Marriage Act, states that marriage in Texas is solely the union between a man and woman and prohibits same-sex marriages or civil unions, including those created in other states.

    Glen Maxey of Austin, an openly gay former legislator who heads the anti-amendment forces in Texas, describes the gay marriage dispute as "the new hot-button issue” and a "political tool” used by the Christian right to motivate conservative voters. Many of those in the opposite camp would readily agree.

    Sixty-eight percent of the public opposes legalizing same-sex marriages, compared with 28 percent in favor, according to a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll last spring.

    Based on those findings, says David Barton, a Christian conservative leader from Aledo, Democratic lawmakers would be well-advised to think twice before opposing efforts to restrict gay and lesbian unions.

    "Blue guys in red states will see themselves getting killed politically if they vote against it,” says Barton, president and founder of WallBuilders, a national organization describing itself as pro-family.

    Barton and others cite Daschle as an example. He became the first Senate leader in 52 years to lose his seat after leading an effort to defeat a proposed U.S. constitutional ban on same sex marriages. Though other factors also figured in his downfall, polls showed that three-quarters of his South Dakota constituents opposed gay marriages.

    Heavyweight conservative groups -- whose opposition to Supreme Court nominee Harriet Miers effectively forced her to withdraw from consideration -- are also flexing their muscles in the anti-gay marriage campaign.

    James Dobson’s Focus on the Family, a Colorado-based group that reaches up to 28 million people a week through TV and radio broadcasts, is assisting in the amendment efforts in Texas and other states.

    "Social conservatives have discovered this is an issue you can win on,” said David Boaz, executive vice president of the Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank in Washington.

    The state-by-state drive has, at least temporarily, supplanted the more-publicized federal effort to ban gay marriages through an amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

    Despite support from President Bush, the proposed amendment died in the Senate in July 2004, and efforts to resurrect it during the current session of Congress are at best uncertain.

    Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, a leading supporter of the amendment last year, acknowledges that the issue is now on Congress’ back burner, but he said the Senate debate helped spark the "grass fire” behind state efforts against gay marriages.

    And Matthew Spalding, an analyst at the conservative Heritage Foundation, said he believes that the widening move across the states is building a national consensus that will enable Congress to successfully revisit a U.S. constitutional amendment, possibly after the 2006 election year.

    As a result of the referendums last year, 18 of the 50 states now have amendments banning gay marriages, and more than 25 states have statutes defining marriage as a union between two people of the opposite sex.

    While gay and lesbian leaders acknowledge the political power of the opposition, they nevertheless take heart in their own progress over the last two years, starting with the U.S. Supreme Court’s landmark 2003 ruling in Lawrence v. Texas, which struck down sodomy laws in Texas and other states.

    The 6-3 ruling, which held that the government has no authority to regulate the sexual behavior of "consenting adults acting in private,” ignited a spate of suits and legislative proposals to permit marriages between gay and lesbian couples.

    The next big break came in 2004, when Massachusetts’ highest court ruled that the state’s ban on same-sex marriages was unconstitutional, allowing local officials to begin granting licenses to gay and lesbian couples.

    Since then, more than 6,000 couples have married, but tenacious opponents are attempting to muster 66,000 petition signatures to force a reluctant Legislature to submit a constitutional ban to the voters by 2007.

    "Emotions are raw, and it’s by no means over,” said Lisa Barstow, spokeswoman for Masschusetts’ Coalition for Marriage. "People really feel robbed and cheated about never having had a say on this.”

    Gay and lesbian leaders in Massachusetts acknowledge that they still have a fight on their hands but are buoyed by their success thus far.

    "As far as we can tell, the sky hasn’t fallen,” said Marty Rouse, leader of a group called Massequality.

    "But for a small segment of society, life is much better.”

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    Is there something about Texans that seems to have them obsessed over the gay marriage issue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee
    Is there something about Texans that seems to have them obsessed over the gay marriage issue?
    Well if anything, it has provoked some public debate and discussion on the issue. Texas does not have Initiative and Referendum. Constitutional amendments have to be placed on the ballot by the state legislature.

    I am not a fan of ballot initiatives. Austin in May passed one to ban smoking in public places. They too easily allow the popular majority assert its will on the minority.

    I'm an election judge on Tuesday. It should be pretty lively.

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    I believe it is due to the high concentration of christian fundamentalists, whom believe homosexuality (of course only men, because females are not homosexuals) is wrong.

    I had to go to Huston for some CAD (Autodesk & Rebis) training, and on my time-off, I looked for some disc-golf courses.
    I was simply stunned at (the attitude of the typical Texan male) the amount of churches that place has (four on one city block, each facing the other).
    I know Huston has a lot if people, as does New York, but you do not see a spire or bell tower on every block.


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    Well... I voted early and did my part in voting against it. I'm guessing though that it will overwhelmingly pass...


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    I hate Texas and most of the people in it.


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    I agree with that!

    Texas is useless and should be given back to Mexico! It would be a better place...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xstr8guy
    I hate Texas and most of the people in it.

    You can only really hate when you can deeeeeeeply love...(hope this is correct english) says a swiss farmers rule...

    cheers


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    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiB
    Texas is useless and should be given back to Mexico! It would be a better place...

    Have you asked the Mexicans if they want all those bigoted self righteous arrogant egos that live in Texas ? [the city of Austin excepted]

    We can talk about giving Texas back to Mexico, but I am not sure the Mexicans would go for it.....

    I would like to see Texas as an independent country. Alberta should become part of the US and California, Washington, Oregon, the south half of Arizona, Minnesota, and New England can join Canada.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chadknowslaw
    Have you asked the Mexicans if they want all those bigoted self righteous arrogant egos that live in Texas ? [the city of Austin excepted]

    We can talk about giving Texas back to Mexico, but I am not sure the Mexicans would go for it.....

    I would like to see Texas as an independent country. Alberta should become part of the US and California, Washington, Oregon, the south half of Arizona, Minnesota, and New England can join Canada.
    Nah, we'll keep Alberta, but you can throw in Alaska :thumbsup:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xstr8guy
    I hate Texas and most of the people in it.
    Well this juist begs the question - then why do you live in Dallas?

    I grew up there, and availed myself the opportunity to move away when I was 18. However, I will say that I do not live in Dallas because it is a bad place to live if you are gay.

    I know everyone likes to knock Texas, but it is a very diverse state, and like anywhere you get the good with the bad. Think of it as there is something for everyone. Sure there are evangelical churches around, but it is not like there aren't mega evangelical churches elsewhere (Coral Gables, FL ?!?) Plus, speaking of churches the Cathedral of Hope in Dallas is a huge gay church, and although I am not religious, is an excellent way to introduce ideas of tolerance into modern religion.

    Texas is very a ethnically diverse state, and inexpensive to live in. So for me as someone who likes guys of color and who spent years starting their own business while living on a couple hundred dollars a month, I am honestly not sure I could done all that in many other places.

    And I'll tell ya, Dallas and Houston have a much better gay nightlife scenes than Austin. It's really slid downhill here over the past few years. I have been seriously considering moving down to San Antonio.

    Steve


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    No, Alberta is not going to join the US!
    Yes, we'll accept Alsaka.

    I am a proud Canadian, whom loves to freeheel (ski)!


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    I am straight, but my ass is gay jIgG's Avatar
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    there is/was/maybe a gay church around South Florida. I remember when my bf was involved in the local gay org in Ft. Lauderdale we got an invite for some AIDS fund raiser at $150-200/per person and if Im not mistaken it was at some gay friendly church. We didn't go, but I remember him saying it was a gay-friendly church or a gay church. Forget now


    and it's funny how people want to ban gay marriage and let the voters decide. If that attitude was applied during the civil rights era, we'd still have signs saying "Entrance for colored people".

    You have Alabama and Missisippi where there are still prices for whites and blacks so no need to really be shocked they go after gay marriage. If racism hasn't been erased after so many years passed, it'd take a while for gay marriage too


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    you hit that on the head. women wouldn't be voting, and black people would be riding at the back of the fucking bus if we waited for the american public to do the right thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by jIgG
    and it's funny how people want to ban gay marriage and let the voters decide. If that attitude was applied during the civil rights era, we'd still have signs saying "Entrance for colored people".

    You have Alabama and Missisippi where there are still prices for whites and blacks so no need to really be shocked they go after gay marriage. If racism hasn't been erased after so many years passed, it'd take a while for gay marriage too


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