How to approach the subject??

KellyTaylor · 12-30-2005, 10:55 PM

Ok well this may be a bit of an odd question ...
But what are good ways to make sure that your models are ready to do porn and shoot content??

And what I mean by this .. what are non embarrassing ways to make sure your models are " Squeeky Clean" for rimming and romping .. alot of models especially " Twinks " Dont know what they are doing is in fact they are real amateurs!!
But when I have approach certain things like this in the past it has been embarrassing or I ended up having to show them in some way hahaha or giving them proper tools.... LOL which is hard to do sometimes .. I must admit

Also another thing how do you think are appropriate ways to approach "DRUGS"
I mean I have seen my problems with them and I want to know ways to approach these subjects "Diplomatically" and as an adult / business man!

Also what do you think are appropriate boundaries models should keep with eachother on and off the camera??

**Lee** · 12-30-2005, 10:58 PM

Diplomatically?

You say to them...

1) Make sure you shower/bathe before coming to the shoot, we dont want to see skidmarks anywhere in the shoots or cheese around your cock.

2) Dont do drugs, if you do you wont be working for us any longer.

Thats what we have done in the past, more often than not, you confuse matters if you try to be diplomtic with models.

Tell them exactly what you mean and why its a bad thing and you cant really go far wrong $0.02

Regards,

Lee

kurt · 12-31-2005, 12:30 AM

LOL, i can see it now... an amateur gay porn model blooper site. just keep the cameras running and i'm sure you'd never run out of content. still lmao

kurt · 12-31-2005, 12:32 AM

the more i think about it. i'd pay to see a web site full of hilarious porn bloopers. how much more real do you get than that.

desslock · 12-31-2005, 03:36 AM

Kelly

Your first question is easy. Cleanliness? Some guys just don't know about washing out. I have on several occasions been with really really hot bottoms, who are simply not ready to bottom. Just teach. Show them the device for cleaning, and they are wide eyed and grateful that you have illuminated their life with this information.

Remember you are giving them a benefit, so that way for you it is not embarrassing or difficult. You are being a helper. And everyone likes helpful people.

:toff:

Steve

**basschick** · 12-31-2005, 03:51 AM

i'm with steve here - think of the embarrassment you are saving them later.

also remember that they are doing this as a job. sure, a fun job, but still a job. you are helping them prepare, and if you do it in a matter of fact way rather than mumbling "i have... uh... something... awkward to talk to you about" most will probably accept this as a normal thing (which it is) and not feel embarrassed.

OR

you could give each model a sheet of paper when he arrives with all the important stuff about condoms, internal and external cleaning, etc. make them initial each item and make sure there's a shower, soap, towels, disposable enema bags, etc where you do the shoot.

**gaybucks_chip** · 12-31-2005, 08:22 AM

We choose the sheet-of-paper plan (and not to wipe with!). Both before they arrive and after they get here, models are given detailed instructions about everything from cleaning out appropriately to not going "Was that good?" a quarter second after they've cum. We actually go over it with them since it seems many of them simply won't read the damn thing... and that seems to solve most of our problems.

KellyTaylor · 12-31-2005, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by boyfunk

We choose the sheet-of-paper plan (and not to wipe with!). Both before they arrive and after they get here, models are given detailed instructions about everything from cleaning out appropriately to not going "Was that good?" a quarter second after they've cum. We actually go over it with them since it seems many of them simply won't read the damn thing... and that seems to solve most of our problems.

Of course I know how we do it .. But I still think it needs to be more detailed cause I think when a model keeps making jokes about it over and over there uncomfortable... Im trying to think of more than 1 method to make them feel good about it etc.... Plus I know models who tell me how difficult the subject is especially comming from certain places or how it was presented so all Im looking for here is other options and methods that can be useful and so far so good! Thanks people.. Love you All!!

**citiboyz** · 12-31-2005, 05:32 PM

Before we shoot a model, we email him a list of "do's and don'ts" for the shoot, including clothing suggestions, grooming advice etc. and including instructions for hygiene. Furthermore, we're very clear about our attitude towards off-camera contact and drug use. We remind them at every step of the way that modeling for us is a job, not an adventure (kinda the opposite of the Army, eh?). I think it's just a matter of telling them your expectations, reminding them constantly, and not being afraid to punish the violators. Of course, the crew needs to lead by example, too. You can't have the crew breaking the rules for the talent to see.

KellyTaylor · 12-31-2005, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by citiboyz

Before we shoot a model, we email him a list of "do's and don'ts" for the shoot, including clothing suggestions, grooming advice etc. and including instructions for hygiene. Furthermore, we're very clear about our attitude towards off-camera contact and drug use. We remind them at every step of the way that modeling for us is a job, not an adventure (kinda the opposite of the Army, eh?). I think it's just a matter of telling them your expectations, reminding them constantly, and not being afraid to punish the violators. Of course, the crew needs to lead by example, too. You can't have the crew breaking the rules for the talent to see.

LOL I never do.. Hahaha But yeah I do agree with you steve.. LOL is that some type of hint or something ....*Winks*

desslock · 12-31-2005, 06:40 PM

Another thing that has helped for me, is to give the irrigation device a personalized name. Since the very first big red bag I purchased was packaged in a box emblazoned with a smiling, seemingly fresh-looking lady sitting in a field of wildflowers.... I call the device Ms. Daisy.... and it's now just a part of my vocabulary like Kleenex, or Xerox or Pepsi.

So in my household, you might hear sentences like - "hey, you need to go Ms Daisy" or "Can I borrow Ms Daisy?" or "Where is Ms. Daisy?" or "I've been Ms Daisying for an hour and I'm not done yet"

I bring this up specifically because Kelly asked for "non embarrassing ways" to raise the subject.

Ms. Daisy

KellyTaylor · 12-31-2005, 06:58 PM

TALK ABOUT THE BEST THING OUT THERE!!

My personal favorite...

desslock · 12-31-2005, 07:04 PM

Well I've not seen a penile shaped one.... but yes a lot of guys have those metal Ms Daiseys screwed into their showerheads. A friend of mine in Dallas has one, and he let me friend use it. I must say, those things can be mighty powerful.

A little water pressure goes a long way.

Steve