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    Perfect 10 prevails against Google in court case

    Internet giant Google Inc. infringed copyright rules by posting thumbnail-size photos from other websites on its search results pages, a US judge said in a ruling issued.

    US District Judge Howard Matz's ruling, handed down in Los Angeles, stems from a lawsuit filed in 2004 by the pornography firm Perfect 10 Inc., which accused Google of breaching on its copyrights.

    The type of search with which Perfect 10 took issue is Google's "Image Search" function, which returns a page with tiny images -- known as thumbnails -- that fit the searcher's query.

    The image search function also allows searchers to view the image as it appears on the page.

    The judge ruled that because Google receives advertising money from offering search functions, it is not entitled to the same level of free use of the images as other entities would be.

    Much of Google's revenues come from so-called keyword searches that link advertisers to users by their search criteria.

    He said Google's use of pictures was different from that Arriba Soft Corp. -- which a US court of appeals in California ruled earlier was operating within "fair use" principles by creating and using thumbnail images on its site.

    Matz's ruling also notes that because Perfect 10 sells similar-size versions of its images to cell phone users through a separate company, Fonestarz Media, Perfect 10 stands to lose revenue if its request for a court order blocking Google's use of the thumbnails is not granted.

    "Google's use of thumbnails likely does harm the potential market for the downloading of P10's reduced-size images onto cell phones," Matz's 47-page ruling stated.

    The ruling, which was signed Friday, asks both sides in the case to come up with the terms of a preliminary injunction that would bar Google from using the thumbnail-size images.

    The judge found, however, that Google did not violate Perfect 10's copyrights by linking to pages that Perfect 10 claims are using its images without permission.

    He noted that "given the exponentially increasing amounts of data on the Web, search engines have become essential sources of vital information for individuals, governments, nonprofits and businesses who seek to locate information."

    Google lawyer Michael Kwun said in a statement that while the company is "disappointed with portions of the ruling, we are pleased with Judge Matz's favorable ruling on linking and other aspects of Google Image Search."

    "We anticipate that any preliminary injunction will have no effect on the vast majority of image searchers, and will affect only searches related to Perfect 10," Kwun said.

    Agence France-Presse in March last year also sued Google Inc. for copyright infringement, claiming the search engine was displaying its news and photos without permission. FULL STORY


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    Wow good for the little guy! Notice how Google stated this case was only beneficial to Perfect 10? Looks like they don't care who elses toes they step on, or who they take money from. What's you're opinion on this? Should Perfect 10 have one a more comprehensive judgement? Do you think this will phase Google at all?


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    I'd say that Google Inc is infringing everybody's copyright by just crawling sites and stealing text or portions of sites and saving it on their very own servers and databases. I do not mean the SERPS but the Google Cache ;D

    I never gave written permission to google or any other party to download and save my websites or images thereof. But it is to my choice whom I may sue *g*

    Anyhow... as we as Webmasters do want google to "steal and infringe copyrights" I thinkg we should not care much though

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    You know, where would we be without search engines? I think the best thing that could come out of this court case would be that Google could have some sort of register that people could fill out in order to keep Google from reproducing their pages or images on their search, but to say that Google shouldn't be able to have this function at all could really hurt a lot of people. When you do an image search you are not simply given that image, you are also given a link to the page that image sits on, which can drive traffic to your site. It may not be that beneficial to us as an industry but it is another way for people's sites to be seen. Nobody is perfect and I'm not saying we should let Google walk all over us, especially if they are taking our content and putting it up for anyone to grab, but couldn't there be a better resolution where we could all be happy rather than having to sue?
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    Interesting case and ruling.

    I'm in favour of them getting slapped around a bit when it comes to things like these because I've had so much problems dealing with them when it comes to copyright infringment and them benefiting from it.

    Example: Every time someone steals my articles and then slaps up some google ads...

    Arggg don't even want to talk about it right now.

    Unfortunately it won't phase them too much I think.


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    Hmmm, I hadn't thought of that. I guess it didn't affect me so I didn't think of the problems it might cause others.
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    Google needs to appeal.

    Perfect 10 should have gone to the trouble of utilizing their robots.txt file if they didn't want their precious photos findable in an Internet search engine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desslock
    Google needs to appeal.

    Perfect 10 should have gone to the trouble of utilizing their robots.txt file if they didn't want their precious photos findable in an Internet search engine.

    Steve
    Wouldnt matter, Google doesnt follow the robots.txt protocol most of the time anyway LOL

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    I was going to say exclude google in robots.txt but I guess that's pointless if they don't follow it.


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    Good points

    I thought we'd hear a lot more from TGP owners in this thread.

    After all, people are now going to google images and typing in Sex, porn, cock, etc. and getting all their free pics without having to really visit the TGP's as much... as Google images become more popular, the TGP's will become much less popular.

    Your thoughts?


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    If I could I would give Google direct access to all the thumbnails on my server! Google Images is one of the biggest traffic referrers to my paysite and I have no doubt they have helped me make sales. I mean I have tens of thousands of images (and lots of videos) and for them to show a dozen or so thumbnails when people search on my keywords only helps me.


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