Can someone give me more info how a Canadian webmaster can add Visa to their existing CCBill account.
I recall a post a few weeks ago was dealing with this subject but I couldn't find it.
My partner in the US will sponsor my account and/or act as a principal.
Thankyou
M@
As a canadian i'm i wish i could use ccbill Visa
Do what we Americans do, speak with are check book and change billing companies to one that will do what YOU want. :$$$:
Hey blueyedboy,
Here's a more recent post:
http://forums.gaywidewebmasters.com/...Canada+billing
Here's one other post:
http://forums.gaywidewebmasters.com/...Canada+billing
Cheers
Michael
lame - and wrong.
ccbill and epoch are the two best processors and they have to follow visa us regulations. if they DIDN'T follow visa regulations, they wouldn't be able to process visa and would go out of business.
it really doesn't matter how much money you have to spend - if you don't follow visa regs, you are fucked.
Originally Posted by maxpower
Well no matter how good the customer service is with Ccbill, if they will not let him take visa, I would go with a company that will like verotel. The world is a big place I would not let the limitations of one company kill 60%+ of my sales. There is always a loophole I would find it, sorry but I personally am not one to bend over for the visa reg or any other companies.
Live by the rules Die by the rules
the last 5 processors who said they found visa loopholes went out of business. i processed with 2 of them.
and without visa, you are completely fucked.
of the current processors, it's epoch and ccbill that are flexible enough to do everything most webmasters want to do. verotel can't touch them that way and their stats blow dog.
I will admit that verotel does have some problems, but its better than losing 75% of your sales, and I don’t see verotel going anyplace soon
I'm certain that if CCBill or Epoch had any possible way to work with Canadian webmasters, they would. Visa International has completely different rules than Visa US, so Verotel has flexibility that's facilitated by different rules, not by rigidity on the part of the US billers.
I know that one of the billers in the US that does claim to have loopholes around Visa regs is the same biller that is also under investigation for processing for CP sites... probably not intentionally... but when you find a processor in this day and age that is being sloppy with Visa regulations, they are probably being sloppy in other ways, and I personally wouldn't risk my business to them.
Outside the US, of course, it's a different story... but if something goes wrong, it will be really expensive, if even possible, to do anything to remedy your situation and get your funds back.
maxpower, you are so far out on limb here.
VISA USA regulations state that in order to accept VISA on our sites, we Canadian webmasters must have a corporate US presence, not just a mail drop, but a U.S. citizen who will be responsible for the funds and filing of taxes. I believe this regulation was adopted out of your U.S. Patriot Act.
Also, Canada falls under VISA USA and must abide by their regulations.
So, Canadians have two options: (1) setting up a U.S. corporation or (2) setting up an off-shore corporation and processing through Europe.
This is not an issue of ccbill or Paycom being pissy or difficult. I'm sure they want Canadian webmasters's money just as much as anyone elses.
Cheers,
Michael
I don’t hate or really blame CCBill or Epoch much, nor do I think that verotel should be used as a persons long term single processor, but it is a way to get around some of the problem this guy faces with his small website processing issues. I am also sure there are some really shady processors out side the US but I would not say that about verotel they are about the 3rd largest company of that type in the world.
I am about to be in the same position and have been trying to sort through the mess. The trouble with using a company like Verotel is that it sort of makes us look a bit 'regional'. To me CCBill is the largest and therefore most recognizable of the credit card handlers, and so our potential customers might be more confident signing with them, especially given the number of 'identity theft docudramas' we see on the news channels lately.
Maybe I can bring this thread to the root of the problem, then ... tell me how a site like bedfellow.com (whose domain is registered in Canada and whose offices are in downtown Toronto) can get CCBill to process VISAs for them. I would like to follow the same process. Judging by the silence I've met with trying to email CCBill (three times now) they either don't care, or can't figure it out either.
Michael answered your questions just a couple posts ago...
Yes, but the process of setting up a corporate presence in the States seems to be a complicated and untried process, at least according to some of the other threads I've read. Some people claim you need to set up a corporation in Nevada. Others claim this doesn't work. What I would LOVE to know is if someone has gone through this process and can explain what they need to do to set up this presence. It's difficult sometimes when you don't have experience in Law to wade through the requirements.
Are we really reduced to having to pay someone in the States just for the benefit of their citizenship and to pose as our figurehead down there? Thanks.
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