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    War In Iran Becoming More Probable..

    The Bush administration is studying options for military strikes against Iran as part of a broader strategy of coercive diplomacy to pressure Tehran to abandon its alleged nuclear development program, according to U.S. officials and independent analysts.

    No attack appears likely in the short term, and many specialists inside and outside the U.S. government harbor serious doubts about whether an armed response would be effective. But administration officials are preparing for it as a possible option and using the threat "to convince them this is more and more serious," as a senior official put it.

    According to current and former officials, Pentagon and CIA planners have been exploring possible targets, such as the uranium enrichment plant at Natanz and the uranium conversion facility at Isfahan. Although a land invasion is not contemplated, military officers are weighing alternatives ranging from a limited airstrike aimed at key nuclear sites, to a more extensive bombing campaign designed to destroy an array of military and political targets.

    Iran now tops international agenda
    Preparations for confrontation with Iran underscore how the issue has vaulted to the front of President Bush's agenda even as he struggles with a relentless war in next-door Iraq. Bush views Tehran as a serious menace that must be dealt with before his presidency ends, aides said, and the White House, in its new National Security Strategy, last month labeled Iran the most serious challenge to the United States posed by any country.

    Many military officers and specialists, however, view the saber rattling with alarm. A strike at Iran, they warn, would at best just delay its nuclear program by a few years but could inflame international opinion against the United States, particularly in the Muslim world and especially within Iran, while making U.S. troops in Iraq targets for retaliation.

    "My sense is that any talk of a strike is the diplomatic gambit to keep pressure on others that if they don't help solve the problem, we will have to," said Kori Schake, who worked on Bush's National Security Council staff and teaches at the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, N.Y.

    More than words?
    Others believe it is more than bluster. "The Bush team is looking at the viability of airstrikes simply because many think airstrikes are the only real option ahead," said Kurt Campbell, a former Pentagon policy official.

    The intensified discussion of military scenarios comes as the United States is working with European allies on a diplomatic solution. After tough negotiations, the U.N. Security Council issued a statement last month urging Iran to re-suspend its uranium enrichment program. But Russia and China, both veto-wielding council members, forced out any mention of consequences and are strongly resisting any sanctions.

    U.S. officials continue to pursue the diplomatic course but privately seem increasingly skeptical that it will succeed. The administration is also coming under pressure from Israel, which has warned the Bush team that Iran is closer to developing a nuclear bomb than Washington thinks and that a moment of decision is fast approaching.

    Bush and his team have calibrated their rhetoric to give the impression that the United States may yet resort to force. In January, the president termed a nuclear-armed Iran "a grave threat to the security of the world," words that echoed language he used before the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Vice President Cheney vowed "meaningful consequences" if Iran does not give up any nuclear aspirations, and U.N. Ambassador John R. Bolton refined the formula to "tangible and painful consequences."

    Although Bush insists he is focused on diplomacy for now, he volunteered at a public forum in Cleveland last month his readiness to use force if Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad tries to follow through on his statement that Israel should be "wiped off the map."

    "The threat from Iran is, of course, their stated objective to destroy our strong ally, Israel," Bush said. "That's a threat, a serious threat. . . . I'll make it clear again that we will use military might to protect our ally Israel."

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    Crazy stuff, not only can we not support our troops in Iraq, we're considering sending some of them to Iran also.

    Will this madness never end? :eek:

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    Well I think its more posturing than anything, bush does not have the backing to do any of that now, and his days are numbered. I do think Iran was the much bigger problem, but bushes family issues have gotten in the way of what was right for the American people.


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    this is pretty scary shit since bush has already jumped on two wars no one believed he would start.


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    It is just plain scary to think how much more damage he can cause with 2 years to go.


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    This is a conspiracy.

    1. Go to war with Iraq alone.

    2. Push the UN into war with Iran.

    3. Blur the lines between the Iraq, Iran wars.

    4. Get UN forces into Iraq to help us out.
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    There's only one country that hates us more than al queda andt that's Iran. Those people seriously hate this country. They dance in the street everytime american blood is spilled. They are ready for a fight. It's only going to show the world how vulnerable this country can be when the military is stretched so thin.

    I think he would get impeached if he starts a war with Iran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sukime69
    It is just plain scary to think how much more damage he can cause with 2 years to go.
    Yeah, scary, but again - I am somewhat glad he didn't really choke on that brezel some time ago or got some serious injuries or lasting handicapy - Bavaria would be pulverized and I would have no beer source anymore...

    2 more years to go - then the world is witness on who's next to be elected by about 25% of the countrie's polulation :-/

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    Quote Originally Posted by sukime69
    It is just plain scary to think how much more damage he can cause with 2 years to go.
    I agree with this so completely. I am glad there is only 2 years left with him in office, however, that is long enough to do some serious damage. I can't wait until he's out


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    I can see airstrikes from USA & maybe Israel

    but never from UN and dont foresee any troops ever being on the ground.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sukime69
    It is just plain scary to think how much more damage he can cause with 2 years to go.

    HOPEFULLY the Dems will take control of the House and Senate this fall. Many are predictiing that will happen. If it does, that takes away Bush's support, no more rubber-stamping his idiodic cowboy diplomacy. Plus, it could mean investigations into Bush and Cheney that have been swept under the rug while the Repubs are in power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chadknowslaw
    HOPEFULLY the Dems will take control of the House and Senate this fall. Many are predictiing that will happen. If it does, that takes away Bush's support, no more rubber-stamping his idiodic cowboy diplomacy. Plus, it could mean investigations into Bush and Cheney that have been swept under the rug while the Repubs are in power.
    If that happens, that happens. But whoever gets the chair in the Oval Office is going to have to address the problem of how we handle rogue governments. It won't go away.... even after Bush opponents are finished playing Ding Dong the Witch Is Dead following a Democrat election win.

    We've had the problem with Iraq, and the problem with North Korea. And now the focus is on Iran. How do you address this?

    If you see the news today as the United States simply invading other countries wontonly, and stationing our troops there, consider this:

    In 1989 President Bush sent US troops to Panama, invading a soverign country, overthrowing its tyrannical leader and establishing its current Constitutional government. TThe United Nations reacted to this by passing a resolution calling for the removal of US troops. (sound familiar?)

    Like Iraq, the official reason for the US invasion was to protect democracy and human rights in the region. Critics of this suggested that the US was actually interested in taknig back the Panama Canal for keeps. (ring at all like the US going to war in Iraq for oil?)

    Now I know there's many differences.... but the question is valid and occurs every couple of years: How do you handle rogue governments?

    And I cannot help but ponder the question of whether any of the adult business we are seeing moving down there would have been at all possible had the United States just kept everything status quo back in 1989.

    The point of this post is to suggest some historical perspective and ask a fundamental question which I think is more apt then simply just looking at foreign problems as perennial headaches.

    Steve

    Wikipedia's entry on Operation Just Cause is very informative.


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