Ccbill Banning the word Twinks?

maxpower · 05-07-2006, 05:20 PM

With all this talk I was wondering what you think the chances Ccbill will be banning the word twink in the next 5 years. Also what you think we could do to turn this situation around before its too late. As we all know its much easier to take freedoms away than it is to get them back, personally I think the only thing they will lesson to is a pubic boycott from at least all webmasters in the twink industry, but every concerned party is more than welcome to help us out before this becomes a problem for you too.

**gaybucks_chip** · 05-07-2006, 06:02 PM

Sean, this is BS.

Who cares what the likelihood is? And besides, it's far more likely that Visa US will ban it than ccbill... and, for that matter, suppose Paycom or Verotel or somebody else bans it?

It's a totally non-relevant issue.

I don't understand your fascination with this topic... it's already been discussed ad nauseum.

maxpower · 05-07-2006, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by boyfunk

Sean, this is BS.

Who cares what the likelihood is? And besides, it's far more likely that Visa US will ban it than ccbill... and, for that matter, suppose Paycom or Verotel or somebody else bans it?

It's a totally non-relevant issue.

I don't understand your fascination with this topic... it's already been discussed ad nauseum.

Ok man I will drop it, but I will say the other processor like “Verotel” will be the last to do something like that. I do really think its relevant if I am going to try to build up recurring members with a company that could put a hold on my account in the future, or force me to change my URL because now they do not like it.

Also I might be wrong, but I think they are much harsher on gay sites than str8 sites as far as some of these word rules.

CCBill James · 05-07-2006, 06:28 PM

Below is a copy of the post which I replied to on another board for this same question....

Just to clear things up in this thread, the OP is only basing their opinion from speculation on what they have seen from other search engines. As this is an constantly evolving industry, no one can say for certain what could possibly happen five years down the road from now, however, we have no current notification of that word being an issue.

Regards,

James A
Client Support Supervisor
Clientsupport at CCBill.com
1-800-510-2859

maxpower · 05-07-2006, 06:39 PM

I see that man, but with all respect that was not an answer. Why should I trust that I will not wake up one day and a hold will be placed on my account or the years I spend building up a URL will be wasted. I really just believe your service is on the edge with issues like this, and I do not want to be the first to fall off. Preempting possible rule chances are ok as a canary in the mine kinda thing, but not really what I want for a twink site. :baby:

maxpower · 05-07-2006, 06:55 PM

Like I said before I will drop this, I do not want to keep going on and on about it. But I for one do not trust they will not throw me to the wolfs, even if you think their is a 20% chance they will ban that word in 5 years with their past history is it worth you risking you business for? I want someone that will fight for me, and the LAST to adopt or really be forced to do things like this. I could be wrong, but if I am not I hope Lee adds a “I told you so” icon on this site so I can use it at that time.

CCBill James · 05-07-2006, 06:56 PM

As with what was previously posted by boyfunk, this is something that does not solely concern CCBill. As with Paycom, or any other merchant provider there are regulations that must be met given directly from the Card Associations in which we all must comply with. In the end, regardless of which billing provider you decide to invest your time and effort in, anyone of them can have new regulations placed upon them at anytime.

Regards,

James A
Client Support Supervisor
Clientsupport at CCBill.com
1-800-510-2859

maxpower · 05-07-2006, 07:04 PM

Well yes that is true, but ALL major processors do not have the same word rules as you and still work with Visa every day. For me its come down to trust and past history, I really want to have the LAST processor to be forced to adopt a stupid rule rather than the first to preempt a possible law or Visa regulation. :turtle: I really do not think your service as good as it is, is very “twink” friendly

**DEVELISH** · 05-07-2006, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by CCBill James

As with what was previously posted by boyfunk, this is something that does not solely concern CCBill. As with Paycom, or any other merchant provider there are regulations that must be met given directly from the Card Associations in which we all must comply with. In the end, regardless of which billing provider you decide to invest your time and effort in, anyone of them can have new regulations placed upon them at anytime.

Hi Bill,

do those badword-lists also count for ccBill-EU?

DEVELISH

maxpower · 05-07-2006, 07:57 PM

Not from what I know, they operate under different rules.

**gaybucks_chip** · 05-07-2006, 08:36 PM

If you're paranoid with the word "twinks", DON'T USE IT and stop wasting time and bandwidth on an issue on what MIGHT happen 5 years in the future.

The way things are going, I think it's just as likely that Visa US will ban adult entirely, or .xxx will force everyone in the US into the .xxx ghetto, or the Supremes will declare anything involving overt sexual conduct to be obscene as for one processor to ban the word "twink."

And there's no guarantee that Verotel won't disappear as have practically all the other processors except for ccbill and Paycom.

The whole discussion is pointless.

**basschick** · 05-08-2006, 01:53 AM

ccbill being dropped by visa won't really help you or any of us make money. if you want to get upset, get upset at the people who want to take away your freedom of expression or get upset at visa IF (and they haven't so far) they ban the words you want to use.

**chadknowslaw** · 05-08-2006, 02:13 AM

For any business, rules change. Those that can adapt to the changes will survive. Those that cannot adapt will die. I remember when groundwater rules were changed for gasoline stations and the stations that couldn't afford new tanks and monitoring wells went out of business. It was tough but the survivors were better businesses.

Bitching about what might happen will do nobody any good. You can only be flexible enough to adapt to any changes, and if the word "twink" really did get banned, it will be banned for more than just one website. Everybody will be in the same situation.
You are not a victim or a potential victim, except of your own imagination.