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    My email to ICANN in opposition of .xxx

    If anyone finds any of my arguments useful, please feel free to borrow them for your own emails to ICANN.


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    Gentleones:

    I am writing in opposition to the .xxx domain. There are several reasons for my opposition.

    1. The .xxx domain will facilitate the restriction of speech. If (as has already been contemplated) various governmental and quasi-governmental agencies force all adult entertainment entities to acquire and host all adult content on a .xxx domain, it will have a chilling effect on the US Constitution, the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, and numerous other free speech protections in other countries. While I realize that ICM swears up and down that .xxx will not be a *requirement* per se for sites containing adult content, numerous legislators, legislative bodies, and others have already stated their desire to make it exactly that.

    2. Additionally, the .xxx domain will create confusion, since some content that is in a "grey area" may or may not fall within the .xxx domain criteria. This is a legal nightmare, wasting the court system's time in various countries to determine what sort of speech, content, discussion, etc does or does not fall within the confines of the .xxx domain.

    3. The .xxx domain goes against the fundamental principles of the internet, which include a minimum of regulation, an open and neutral network that allows all of those with an opinion or voice to voice it, and for anyone with access to the Net to be able to access any website on the Net (China, of course, excluded...) I do not understand why ICANN seeks to promote a proposal that will, in all likelihood, have the effect of limiting speech and access to content.

    4. Among those in the adult industry with full understanding of what the .xxx initiative represents, a very high percentage are against the creation of the .xxx registry. Since ICANN has already publicly stated that it will only move forward with the .xxx domain if there is widespread support from the industry, this reason alone should be enough to kill the proposal.

    5. It is clear that after the .eu debacle, ICANN is not capable of adequate oversight of the rollout of a new domain to prevent those with money, technical resources, or connections from corrupting the process of registering .xxx domains, even after ICANN has been warned in advance of the corruption of the process. This problem started with the .info domain, in which tens of thousands of domains were fraudulently registered with fake trademark registrations, yet nothing was done about it. The .eu process cleaned up the trademark process, but did not do anything to prevent fraudulent registrars from registering hundreds of thousands of names for themselves, and nothing has been done about that either. The .xxx landrush will make the .eu one look like child's play. Unless ICANN wants to be embroiled in lawsuits it can ill afford to defend from thousands of deep-pocketed defendants, it would be wise to simply vote down this proposal.

    6. The proposal has already come up numerous times and been shot down. The US government is opposed, the industry is opposed, and most other people -- except those who stand to cash in -- are opposed. Clearly ICM wants to cash in, and their interest in doing so is for no other reason than greed -- why else would they propose setting the .xxx domain registration prices so exhorbitantly high? It should be obvious that greed is not a valid reason to approve ICM's request. ICANN is supposed to work for the good of the Net community, not to work for the enrichment of a particular registrar.

    I hope that you will actually listen to the voices of those in the industry and in government, and kill this proposal once and for all.

    Thank you for your consideration.

    Chip White
    Media Resource Communications, Inc


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    Here is a copy of the correspondence i just sent to ICANN opposing the proposal for a .XXX TLD:

    Dear Sirs,

    I am writing to express my discourse over the re-consideration of the proposed .xxx tld whilst I am in agreement that children do need to be protected online, those protections must not be made in direct contrast to other right afforded by those individuals who not only use the internet as a communications medium but also, as a business.

    It is my firm belief that the proposed (and once failed) .xxx tld will not achieve what ICANN is setting out to do, for the following reasons:

    1) .XXX will in no way, shape or form creates a reasonable assumption that children will be protected online by keeping adult orientated content away from minors however, if you do want to create a framework that will allow the protection of children on the internet, a better route, in my opinion, would be the creation of a new .kids top level domain.

    If adopted, the .kids TLD could be utilized by various computer manufacturers and browser companies to effectively 'block' access to sites that aren't on a .kids TLD as an industry wide standard until such a time as the owner of the machines chooses to 'deactivate' that functionality in essence, ensuring that children who do go online unsupervised by their parents will not be able to access any type of material unless it is located on a .kids TLD.

    2) .XXX serves no legitimate business need at the present time to the world wide web as a whole except for those companies who seek to profit from online pornography. Instead of giving those companies yet another vehicle to flood the internet with content that may be harmful to our children, why not create a TLD such as .kids that will ensure parents can restrict their children's access only to such a TLD in a manner not dis-similar to how parental controls work on most televisions equipped with a V-Chip? That, to me, would certainly make more sense in the long running fight against protecting our children on the internet along with educating parents on the uses of such internet filtering.

    3) .XXX will in effect, segregate web publishers right to protected speech. By its very existence, the creation of a .XXX TLD that should only be utilized for pornographic websites will allow government and private sector censorship of content on the internet that they may not agree with and want to regulate. This in itself could potentially slow the growth of the internet as an education tool to many millions of adults, teens and children around the globe. Let us not forget that countries such as China already limit what their citizens can and cant view online, the .XXX TLD could potentially enable many more countries around the world to do the same on a much larger scale.

    4) .XXX will be regulated despite assurances that it will be a 'self-regulated' Top Level Domain. IFFOR, the primary supporting organization of the proposed .XXX TLD will create policy that owners of a .XXX domain will need to attain to, for this reason alone, creating the .XXX TLD should be scrapped instead, if policy must be created for a specific TLD, create a .KIDS (or similar TLD) where distinct policies can be placed on the owners of that TLD so as it may only be used for content that can not be deemed 'inappropriate' for children to view.

    5) .XXX is opposed by international governments. More and more international governments are voicing their concern over the proposed creation of a .XXX TLD in fact, rather than the creation of a .XXX TLD many countries governments are suggesting that they would in fact endorse a .KIDS top level domain as a method of protecting children online.

    6) .XXX does not have the support of pornographers and adult businesses. As the proposed .XXX TLD is something that is going to be 'voluntary' it would certainly make sense to scrap plans given that the vast majority of adult companies in cyberspace right now seem to be against the idea. However, at the same time, many of these companies are all for labeling their sites with parental filtering codes from organizations such as ICRA and, the creation of a .KIDS TLD. I would suggest to you that given the online adult industry is purported to be worth tens of billions of dollars each year, the creation of a .KIDS TLD that the industry would support will be a much more profitable venture instead of wasting time, resources and money on a TLD that as of right now, doesn't look as if it will ever be voluntarily used by the majority of those companies it is being created for.

    Given all of the information above in view of my own non-support of the .XXX tld, I strongly feel that this idea should be scrapped and, instead, more viable options should be considered, such as a .KIDS TLD. As I stated at the start of this correspondence, protecting children online should be something that EVERYONE has a concern with however, limiting the rights of the masses in order to protect the few is not a direction that I feel ICANN should be taking. Instead, pool the resources of ICANN, IFFOR, International governments and the companies and individuals who publish websites to come up with a more viable solution, such as a .KIDS TLD which would be a lot easier to not only police but, implement.

    Sincerely Yours,

    Lee Windsor, GA Media Corporation.
    As with Chip, if any of you would like to use any or all of that communication, feel free to do so

    Regards,

    Lee


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    Oh and another thing...

    If you want your opposition to the .XXX proposals to be taken seriously, please dont do what the GFY'ers have done and have your email coming from some stupid nickname, use your real name, even if it is only your first name, im sure a lot more weight will be put on correspondence received from people who treat ICANN with a little respect instead of a response coming from a nick such as 'sweaty ball licker'.

    You only have to read some of the names people have complained about the .XXX TLD using to realize the type of person we have in the industry.

    Please use some common sense, even if others havent, this is an issue that effects us all.

    Regards,

    Lee


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    good work, chip

    here's mine:

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    When I first heard about .xxx, I sent ICM Registry some questions. Stuart Lawley and Jason Hendeles were kind enough to respond to my questions on how .xxx would work. After hearing from them several times, it was clear that the only way using .xxx would have any effect at all is by the use of parental filtering software.

    Since effective filtering software already exists to keep children away from adult sites, we do not need a new TLD. All that is needed to block adult sites from kids is to educate parents on the use of those filtering softwares. Having a new TLD will not change parents' filtering habits so creating .xxx will not affect children's ability to access any sites. Parents have the power to keep their children away from objectionable material - let's teach them how.

    Another useful idea would be to create a .kids TLD. This would be more effective as even removing adult sites from .com, .net and other TLDs would not protect children from extremely violent or political material that is in no way appropriate for children. This could also make it easier to keep children away from many child predators.

    Forcing any one kind of site to a particular domain could harm our freedom of expression and is unlikely to have any other effect that I can see. I am concerned that forcing sexual sites to a particular TLD will affect certain kinds of medical sites, artists' sites, personal sites and entertainment sites as well.

    Thank you.

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    Good comments, Patti... particularly with respect to the lack of any meaningful effect (at least until ISPs and local governments start banning .xxx entirely)

    I was reading some of the letters they've received at the ICANN site, and it's really pathetic... these two sentence things "I'm in the adult industry and it's bad."

    We NEED some good letter writing going on! If they have only a couple hundred letters, most of which are hardly worth the effort, up against ICM's lobbying and cronyism, it doesn't look good.


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    Quote Originally Posted by boyfunk
    I was reading some of the letters they've received at the ICANN site, and it's really pathetic... these two sentence things "I'm in the adult industry and it's bad."

    We NEED some good letter writing going on! If they have only a couple hundred letters, most of which are hardly worth the effort, up against ICM's lobbying and cronyism, it doesn't look good.
    Chip, i was just saying that EXACT same thing to Patti on ICQ a few minutes ago, the responses so far, really do make me cringe.

    Anyone reading them not in the adult industry would think we were all 3rd grade morons by the majority of the responses posted so far.

    I mean if someone cant offer anything more constructive than 'you are scammers' or 'you dont care about the web' they shouldnt bother posting at all.

    Regards,

    Lee


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