TGP/CJ: graphical or textual layout

simons · 06-26-2006, 05:49 PM

Hello guys,
in your opinion what's more productive layout between graphical and textual for TGP/CJ?

For graphical I would say TGP/CJ like that

and for textual layout maden just with html/css and text

Thank you :1ymca:

**Lee** · 06-26-2006, 05:50 PM

All the people i know that operate CJ sites have told me that 'plain' html designs with 'lots of thumbs' work best.

For TGPs it totally depends on where your traffic is coming from, where you are sending it, whether you trade using scripts or hard links, etc etc.

Regards,

Lee

abostonboy · 06-26-2006, 06:09 PM

If it's CJ that layout is fine.

BUT, I strongly believe that if you are creating a tgp for long term success. Text is the way to go. And build it with either your own traffic a few trades here and there, or buy traffic.

I just havent seen many TGP's that have launched in the last few years that are successful.

Succes is NOT based on traffic alone.

simons · 06-26-2006, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by abostonboy

If it's CJ that layout is fine.

BUT, I strongly believe that if you are creating a tgp for long term success. Text is the way to go. And build it with either your own traffic a few trades here and there, or buy traffic.

I just havent seen many TGP's that have launched in the last few years that are successful.

Succes is NOT based on traffic alone.

Well, and in your opinion what's successis based on? (Is it a correct english sentence?

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**basschick** · 06-26-2006, 06:29 PM

text.

1. page loads faster
2. you can fit more links to galleries higher on the page
3. less bandwidth use

simons · 06-26-2006, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by basschick

text.

1. page loads faster
2. you can fit more links to galleries higher on the page
3. less bandwidth use

hey basschick, how are you?

Well, is it for TGP, CJ or both?

abostonboy · 06-26-2006, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by basschick

text.

1. page loads faster
2. you can fit more links to galleries higher on the page
3. less bandwidth use

search engine traffic, both to your tgp and the galleries. I have about 200 galleries that get 5-10 SE hits a day from years ago. It adds up.

I mean some people have a small tgp and skim so hard to get on the top of the big ones. Thats it's just a pass thru site. Surfers don't click.

And if they actuall get to a gallery link that's NOT yours (and not some other tgp), they may be so relieved that they may buy.

Traffic is ONLY good if it is productive for you.

1,000 direct link, SE, bookmarks uniques to a niche TGP can be as valuable as 15,000 to a skim the surfer to death tgp, especially if it's text. And trust me thumbs only show so much. And we all know the "BEST" thumbs get skimmed to another site.

abostonboy · 06-26-2006, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by basschick

text.

1. page loads faster
2. you can fit more links to galleries higher on the page
3. less bandwidth use

And surfers do read.....

**basschick** · 06-26-2006, 07:58 PM

i know. i sometimes rewrite tour text for sites and generally there is a 15% or better increase in sales. i'm a BIG believer in text making more sales as well as bringing in search engine hits.

simons - both. you want them clicking as soon as possible.

Originally Posted by abostonboy

And surfers do read.....

abostonboy · 06-26-2006, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by basschick

i know. i sometimes rewrite tour text for sites and generally there is a 15% or better increase in sales. i'm a BIG believer in text making more sales as well as bringing in search engine hits.

simons - both. you want them clicking as soon as possible.

Basschick,

I know when I help do members areas, especially my own, instead of just thumbs lead to a gallery (which many sites do), when i changed to having the thumb and a description in the members area I found members were exploring the site more. A thumb can only tell so much. And someone may not like the thumb, but may like the theme of tha gallery. Huge cumshot, etc etc.

abostonboy · 06-26-2006, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by basschick

simons - both. you want them clicking as soon as possible.

But NOT necessarily to someone elses tgp...

Then you are just a distant memory. You got 1 hit out of 15,000 but what good was it? And if they come back and get the same thing again. They move on....

**basschick** · 06-26-2006, 09:33 PM

depends on the business model of the site.

most of the successful tgp owners i know send the first click to a gallery EVERY time. also if you're running a tgp that is building slowly with search engine traffic and only uses a toplist for trades, you have a very different animal than a trade tgp.

but either way, best to get the surfers to the gallery listings so they can either have their daily dose and bookmark your site or get traded to someone for another surfer who might like your ads more.

Originally Posted by abostonboy

But NOT necessarily to someone elses tgp...

Then you are just a distant memory. You got 1 hit out of 15,000 but what good was it? And if they come back and get the same thing again. They move on....

abostonboy · 06-26-2006, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by basschick

but either way, best to get the surfers to the gallery listings so they can either have their daily dose and bookmark your site or get traded to someone for another surfer who might like your ads more.

That is true as long as a surfer actually gets to a gallery...

Some skim so bad it's like a 1 in 10 chance.

You really need to watch your trades acrefuly. And remember you can set so you are skimming for only x amount of time, but doin it heavy, then skimming zero for x amount of time to get the bookmarkers and people in the galleries. Just how closely you watch your trades will determine your success.