Must Have Video Equipment

[maxpower]

I know it might be a year or so away, but I am starting to wonder about what camera equipment I will need to create videos. I know I will need a camcorder but what kind do I really need? Should I get the most expensive or 2 of the cheaper ones, or just 1 medium priced one will work good. I also know I will need lights but how many what type? Are these about the only things I need? I was thinking about maybe using screen caps for some pics cuzz I am going to have to do it all myself. I was also thinking about getting most of what I need from Ebay unless anyone knows a better place.

[basschick]

i got a medium-low priced camcorder and it does videos as good as or better than a lot of sites out there. my camcorder allows me to shoot pics simultaneously while i shoot videos and although they are not as good or big as regular pics, they are better than screencaps.

what lights you will need depends a lot on what size room you are planning to shoot in as well as what background colors and materials, how high the ceiling will be and a bunch of other stuff. i started out with 2 500 watt lights from bhphoto video plus a floor and a fill light which i actually got from the hardware store for around $20 each. craigslist did much MUCH better for my stuff than ebay but mostly i bought stuff new at www.bhphotovideo.com for the equipment and www.butterflyphoto.com for the camcorder and later the cameras.

[maxpower]

Those do look pretty cool did not know I could get away with going that cheap on the cam. What do you think about these few?

I have seen this one in films allot http://www.butterflyphoto.com/shop/p...px?sku=PVGS300

I think this one looks cool http://www.butterflyphoto.com/shop/p...spx?sku=GZMG21

What one would you or anyone most suggest? http://www.butterflyphoto.com/shop/s...=1100&pti=1100


I was really thinking if its going to be this cheap too save up and get 2 cams, this way it will help make up for my bad shoots with having 2 angles to chose from in editing, and always having a stable shots even when changing one of them. I know I am going to be really bad at first just thinking this would help me allot, but again I have seen some really bad stuff that people use.

Is the sound going to be ok with these cams too? Just seems I would need more to good vocal sounds

[basschick]

the PVGS300 is the baby brother of the PV-GS250, which is my camcorder. while my camcorder cost more, the 300 sounds like a very good option:

http://reviews.cnet.com/Panasonic_PV...-31660647.html

panasonic has a very good auto setting - so good that it convinced us to buy a panasonic camera, as well. in fact, the 300 sounds good enough to use as a backup. i think i'll be buying one. thanks!

i am not a fan of JVC camcorders myself as i don't care for the video quality, and let's face it - features don't matter if your videos look muddy and flat. perhaps there are some good ones out there that i haven't seen.

[maxpower]

the PVGS300 is the baby brother of the PV-GS250, which is my camcorder. while my camcorder cost more, the 300 sounds like a very good option:

http://reviews.cnet.com/Panasonic_PV...-31660647.html

panasonic has a very good auto setting - so good that it convinced us to buy a panasonic camera, as well. in fact, the 300 sounds good enough to use as a backup. i think i'll be buying one. thanks!

i am not a fan of JVC camcorders myself as i don't care for the video quality, and let's face it - features don't matter if your videos look muddy and flat. perhaps there are some good ones out there that i haven't seen.

You really think the baby brother Panasonic PV-GS300 MiniDV is a real viable option? I did look at the Panasonic_PV_GS500 model you have now, but its only getting a .2% higher ranking. I am just wondering if I could get away with the 300 and maybe get 2 of them. Of course I can get a ok deal on the model you have as well so no mater what I think I will get 2 of them unless you see a problem with that.

I am just not really that sure about this Cam stuff at all :crazyeyes:

[maxpower]

Hey Bass I am getting ready to order a video camera and I was looking at the one you said you used PV-GS250. From what you said this is a better cam than the PVGS300, but I saw a review of the 250

(But that otherwise excellent model turned out to have an unfortunate flaw: its electronic image stabilization didn' t work very well, resulting in shaky footage.)

Do you still think the 250 is better than the 300? I know you said you where going to order the 300 as a back-up just wondering how that worked out.

The price is not important here at all really, in fact I can get the PV-GS250 that you have for less than the baby brother 300. :thumbsup:

[basschick]

300 review
http://reviews.cnet.com/Panasonic_PV...-31660647.html

250 review
http://reviews.cnet.com/Panasonic_PV...tag=prod.txt.1

check out the user reviews. editors don't really use the equip for that long - users do.

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/ratings.php
check where both stand in the ratings and go read reviews and specs.

[maxpower]

THax bass but I think I am more lost than when I started, they both have the same rating. I guess unless you or anyone else can see a problem I am going to get what you have or had (PV-GS250) seems this one is better from what little I can tell.

God help us all, but next year I hope to be creating a large amount of my own exclusive content. I am really existed, but hope I don’t get in trouble. I will shot reality stuff I am sure, but might be some drinking, fake pot, guys saying “No Please Stop” and such. I just wonder how far I can take things, it will be mostly fake I assume but I do want to make PORN and some of it might look like I am pushing some consent issues or breaking them. :fool:

[longboardjim]

agreed! , equipment priced "in-between" keep in mind "ease of operation" and "compatibility" with a computer.
i would also advise speaking with someone/site/etc. who's photography interests you! , they may be able to help you further!
i would not suggest anything used , most likely you are dealing with someone else's problem and/or in the event you don't like/not working you can always return it with reciept.

jim

[maxpower]

Ya will not get a used cam, but might get some other used things like lights, stands, new lenses stuff like that. I am really drowning in all this other work I have to do right now, but I am going to order this cam sometime in the nest 2 weeks anyway. :egg:

Think it will be fun to play with it, and I do need something less stressful to do from time to time. :thumbsup:

The quality of the film is not what interests me most, I want to create some of this “Uncle Don” crap, just on steroids.

[IdolKnights]

i would also advise speaking with someone/site/etc. who's photography interests you! , they may be able to help you further!
jim

Photography or Videography?

And with the two - you can't go by "Style" as your reference to purchase equipment.

Photography: Slava Mogutin uses a small quick click camera costing around $120.00 to produce gallery sold photography

Example:




Videography: Ron Howard and David DeCoteau shoot on 35mm film Panasonic cameras. Again, Style comes into play. Not the equipment.

[Squirt]

Photography or Videography?

And with the two - you can't go by "Style" as your reference to purchase equipment.

Photography: Slava Mogutin uses a small quick click camera costing around $120.00 to produce gallery sold photography

Example:




Videography: Ron Howard and David DeCoteau shoot on 35mm film Panasonic cameras. Again, Style comes into play. Not the equipment.

STYLE!

Something our industry desperately needs

However, when porn gets style doesn't it turn into erotica or art, at which point it stops turning people on?

[maxpower]

Photography or Videography?

And with the two - you can't go by "Style" as your reference to purchase equipment.

Photography: Slava Mogutin uses a small quick click camera costing around $120.00 to produce gallery sold photography

Example:




Videography: Ron Howard and David DeCoteau shoot on 35mm film Panasonic cameras. Again, Style comes into play. Not the equipment.

Ya man these HD cams are not going to work for this reality stuff, I need a good cam that takes good stills, but I do want to keep some amateur feel to it.

I just hope the quality of the 250 will be enough that if I need to in a few years I can possible create real DVD’s with this stuff.

[maxpower]

STYLE!

Something our industry desperately needs

However, when porn gets style doesn't it turn into erotica or art, at which point it stops turning people on?

Not if I can do anything about it, I think most porn is boring. Who cares if you fly your models all over the world so you can film them with penguins in the background or something. I am sure I will do JO stuff, but if at all possible I will push things as far as I can even with JO stuff. :shitpoke:

[Squirt]

Not if I can do anything about it, I think most porn is boring. Who cares if you fly your models all over the world so you can film them with penguins in the background or something. I am sure I will do JO stuff, but if at all possible I will push things as far as I can even with JO stuff. :shitpoke:

Style isn't about pushing things as far as you can go, it's about being distinctly unique