Wow..even Rosie Odonell knows 9/11 was an inside job now

GayGravy-JJ · 03-16-2007, 10:29 PM

I dont know much about Rosie Odonnel (or how to spell her name for that matter) but i know she has like 20 million people that watch that show of her's.
For those that dont know, 3 buildings went down on 9/11, not just the two towers. WTC 7 wasnt hit by a plane but still went down in beautifully controlled demolition manner.
Here are the vids of the collapse in case you've never seen them:
http://www.wtc7.net/videos.html

Here's her newest blog entry:
Here is the Blog entry in full:
http://www.rosie.com/blog/2007/03/15/wtc-7/
at 5 30 pm
9 11 2001
wtc7 collapsed for the third time in history
fire brought down a steel building
reducing it to rubble
hold on folks
here we go
• The fires in WTC 7 were not evenly distributed, so a perfect collapse was impossible.
• Silverstein said to the fire department commander “the smartest thing to do is pull it.”
• Firefighters withdrawing from the area stated the building was going to “blow up”.
• The roof of WTC 7 visibly crumbled and the building collapsed perfectly into its footprint.
• Molten steel and partially evaporated steel members were found in the debris.
[WTC 7] contained offices of the FBI, Department of Defense, IRS (which contained prodigious amounts of corporate tax fraud, including Enron’s), US Secret Service, Securities & Exchange Commission (with more stock fraud records), and Citibank’s Salomon Smith Barney, the Mayor’s Office of Emergency Management and many other financial institutions. [Online Journal]
The SEC has not quantified the number of active cases in which substantial files were destroyed [by the collapse of WTC 7]. Reuters news service and the Los Angeles Times published reports estimating them at 3,000 to 4,000. They include the agency’s major inquiry into the manner in which investment banks divvied up hot shares of initial public offerings during the high-tech boom. …”Ongoing investigations at the New York SEC will be dramatically affected because so much of their work is paper-intensive,” said Max Berger of New York’s Bernstein Litowitz Berger & Grossmann. “This is a disaster for these cases.” [New York Lawyer]
Citigroup says some information that the committee is seeking [about WorldCom] was destroyed in the Sept. 11 terror attack on the World Trade Center. Salomon had offices in 7 World Trade Center, one of the buildings that collapsed in the aftermath of the attack. The bank says that back-up tapes of corporate emails from September 1998 through December 2000 were stored at the building and destroyed in the attack. [TheStreet]
Inside [WTC 7 was] the US Secret Service’s largest field office with more than 200 employees. …”All the evidence that we stored at 7 World Trade, in all our cases, went down with the building,” according to US Secret Service Special Agent David Curran. [TechTV]
lets start here
ok…go slow
remember 2 breathe
use google

**Lee** · 03-16-2007, 10:32 PM

Regards,

Lee

GayGravy-JJ · 03-16-2007, 11:07 PM

I used to agree with you. But governments have been pulling this stuff for all time.
Hitler did it by burning the Reichstag and blaming it on countries he wanted to invade.
For an interesting read, google this "Operation Northwoods". Get this..a declassified Joint Chiefs' plan to blow up commercial airliners and blame it on Cuba so the US public would support an invasion. hmmm...
It made it's way all the way to Kennedy before the idea was killed..
You can read the docs in the National Archives online..
Some of the key phrases from Operation Northwoods:
Carefully created identities (abord the planes).. identities that would surely make the US citizens pissed off..college students, pregnant women etc.
Anyway..here's a good place to start..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

**SPACE GLIDER** · 03-17-2007, 02:39 AM

It's just too BIG of a secret to KEEP a secret though ...

**Matt 26z** · 03-17-2007, 03:22 AM

Originally Posted by SPACE GLIDER

It's just too BIG of a secret to KEEP a secret though ...

Depends who was involved, and what they knew.

I've seen people say that if the US Government was involved then thousands would know. But the fact is that your local congressman wouldn't have known and some paper pusher wouldn't have been tipped off either.

Full knowledge would be limited to the very top. Probably above even the president.

The people on the lower levels would have been like the machinists who made the parts for the atomic bomb. Each having so little info that none could know what they were collectively doing. To this day those people likely have no idea what their work orders were a part of.

The same concept could have been done on 9/11.

I'm NOT saying that's what I believe, but I know that 100 years from now the official 9/11 story will be different than what we know today. Nothing would surprise me.

strictlyb · 03-17-2007, 05:47 AM

The conspiracy theories are too elaborate to make sense. If the CIA wanted to plan the attack (which is entirely possible), they would have paid someone like Osama bin Laden to do it (after all, they have a long working relationship), not blow up the WTC themselves or fire cruise missiles at the Pentagon.

The only sensible conspiracy evidence I've seen was put into Fahrenheit 9/11 by Michael Moore. He keeps pointing out the obvious facts: 1) the hijackers were SAUDI (why does everyone ignore that fact?) 2) The Bushes and the Saudi royals have a long and deep personal/business relationship. 3) Bin Laden was a CIA agent during the 1980s. 4) The neocons have NEVER called for "democracy and freedom" in Saudi Arabia. 5) Saudi has the world's biggest oil reserves. 6) The US was taken over by the oil industry in 2000...

Now that's a PROPER conspiracy theory.

jaycar · 03-22-2007, 07:25 PM

wow
Most people here in Oz think there is something more to it than just what we hear on the news etc. Exactly who and what are involved who can say for sure. But one thing is for sure, governments have always been involved in this sort of thing to justify their ends and they always will be. we have our fair share of it here in Australia as well.

GayGravy-JJ · 04-02-2007, 01:27 AM

Maybe a "main stream" news source might lend the credibility to this that will prompt you to dig a bit. I have a place up there so i occasionally check the local papers like the Calgary Herald...came upon this today.

http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/...2-180a4720e918

The curious tale of the 'other' WTC tower
Kevin Brooker, Calgary Herald
Published: Monday, March 26, 2007

First, a news quiz: If, some time after the collapse of World Trade Center towers 1 and 2, a 47-storey office building in a major American city also came crashing to the ground, do you think you'd know about it?

Of course, you would.

But if I were to tell you that such an event actually did happen, could you name that building?

If you are like most North Americans, I'm guessing probably not.

In fact, the collapse of the Salomon Brothers Building, which was also known as WTC 7 and stood but two blocks away from ground zero, occurred late in the day on Sept. 11, 2001.

It remains one of the central anomalies in a day filled with anomalies, yet it was treated then, and remains today, at least in official annals, as an insignificant footnote.

Struck by no aircraft, and little debris, WTC 7 nevertheless had small fires mysteriously burning in several of its middle floors. Judging from photographs, one would assume those fires should have been easily contained.

Yet at 5:20 p.m., in a space of 6.5 seconds, or practically at a free-fall rate, WTC 7 collapsed perfectly into its footprint. It should have been big news, if only because it would have been the first steel-frame building in history to collapse due exclusively to fire. But for some reason, reporters gave it a wide berth.

Shortly after 9/11, when Associated Press published a timeline of events called A Stunning 48 Hours of News, WTC 7 was not mentioned at all. Neither was it in the government's official 9/11 report. And to this day, authorities have only issued an inconclusive draft report as to why the building fell.

Not everyone is so incurious, however. A host of researchers have busily gathered everything they could learn about that day, and WTC 7 in particular.

Though you're unlikely to have seen it, video of the collapse does exist (and can be found on the Internet). The footage exhibits the hallmarks of controlled demolition, including bursts of dust from what appear to be many tiny explosions and the curtain-like plummeting of the entire structure.

During the brief aftermath before WTC 7 disappeared into the memory hole, CBS anchor Dan Rather showed the video and said, "For the third time today, it's reminiscent of those pictures we've all seen too much on television before, where a building was deliberately destroyed by well-placed dynamite."

Many have concluded it was just that. Moreover, they discovered that WTC 7 had unusual tenants, including several floors devoted to each of the FBI, the CIA and mayor Rudy Giuliani's emergency headquarters. It was also home to a legal branch of the Security and Exchange Commission, which allegedly harboured evidence relating to a number of ongoing investigations of market malfeasance.

A PBS television documentary later showed the WTC's owner, Larry Silverstein, describing how he reacted that day: " 'We've had such terrible loss of life,' " he recalled saying, " 'maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

ou can read into that what you may, just as you can with the fact that Silverstein's group had only acquired WTC six months earlier, for $3.2 billion, and bought insurance that for the first time specifically indemnified acts of terrorism. As of last report, Silverstein had collected $4.6 billion.

Finally, from the department of curiouser and curiouser, came another bombshell this year. Researchers unearthed a BBC television report from 9/11 in which the reporter announced the collapse of WTC 7. Strangely, though, the building is still plainly visible over her right shoulder, and would not fall for another 20 minutes.

Well, if the rest of the world won't get to the bottom of this, maybe Rosie will.

Kevin Brooker feeds his curiosity in Calgary

**Squirt** · 04-02-2007, 06:49 AM

Well you have to admit it is interesting that WT7 did crumble to the ground though it wasn't hit by anything that day.

3 buildings imploaded on themselves that day, because of fire

It is a fact that the U.S. president represents the will of the right wing religious minority and powerful 1% base, as he has proudly admitted, though I don't think posting about all this on a Gay webmaster board will have much impact :toff:

GayGravy the mainstream media here in Australia has been reporting on the 9/11 consipiracies for years and having specials aired on network television about the subject :groovy:

**Squirt** · 04-02-2007, 07:11 AM

Just another quick note:

Remember that it's people selling you oil that want you to need oil

Cigarette companies want you to need cigarrettes

Drug companies want you to need drugs

Oil companies have stopped the electric car succeeding in it's tracks

Cigarette companies made cigarrettes more addictive

Drug companies push their drugs on you

I bought the DVD "The Corporation" about a year ago and it really opens your eyes. Corporations have one goal, to make money. They have no collective conscience. When big business gets to deep into the pockets of a government, you run into the problems we're having now.

**chubbs** · 04-02-2007, 10:59 AM

As much as I would like to believe this was a huge conspiricy, mainly cause I love that shit, this is not. Yes there is plenty of ammo for the theorists to use when coming up with what seem to be legitimate ideas. But lets be real, this was no conspiricy. A bunch of whack job arab'a got together a while back and planned this. Using a bunch of Saudi cock suckers that had been planted here in the states for years they easily pulled of what many terrorists have been wanting to do. Yes there were a lot of unusual happenings that day such as other buildings collapsing. But you gotta realize the magnitude of what happened. 2 GIANT building came crashing down with no warning. I mean, have you ever seen the twin towers in person? I have and its almost impossible to grasp how big/tall they were without having seen them. I am suprised that there were not more unusual, unexplainable events that occured. I am suprised noone has mentioned the unique lung destroying "dust" that was created when all the different materials (paper, steel, plastic, concrete, etc) were superheated from the friction of the collapse and then compressed with insane force.

If it is possivle for a powder/dust to be created by the collapse that has NEVER been seen before, why is it so hard to believe other building fell due to circumstances noone can even imagine? Or was that fallout from the nukes that n. koreans has planted in the surrounding buildings?

Let me just ask you this, was the 1st WTC attack a conspiricy too? No. But I bet if the towers had fallen that day you'd be calling it one.

--Chubbs

jaycar · 04-03-2007, 12:57 AM

Stupid question but what has the evnts on 9/11 got to do with the porn industry?:fucked:

**SPACE GLIDER** · 04-03-2007, 03:40 AM

Originally Posted by jaycar

Stupid question but what has the evnts on 9/11 got to do with the porn industry?:fucked:

The government is planning to blow the American porn webmasters up and blame it on Canada.

jaycar · 04-03-2007, 04:12 AM

he he , thats cool, if they leave us aussies alone....but then again, we have our PM Mr. Johnny Howard...god knows what hes planning to do with the industry here.:sleepy: