Epoch.... still nothing...

[basschick]

actually once the l.a. show had signed all the speakers and sponsors, there's no chance that the gpf would have been able to pull off the quality of shows that people expect. the lawyers, among others, can't take 2 weeks off to do 2 shows. and many of the sponsors can't send their employees to two separate shows because work has to get done.

CCbill did NOT have to cancel Gay Phoenix. Its a much more popular show, and had they not cancelled it, many more webmasters would have gone to Phoenix than to LA. CCbill made a CHOICE to cancel thier show. So, could it be they weren't as dedicated to doing Gay Phoenix as we are all assuming here?

[gaybucks_chip]

Not to mention that, while a number of the sponsors could afford to (financially) support two shows, doing so 2 weeks apart would not be feasible for most.

[Lee]

actually once the l.a. show had signed all the speakers and sponsors, there's no chance that the gpf would have been able to pull off the quality of shows that people expect. the lawyers, among others, can't take 2 weeks off to do 2 shows. and many of the sponsors can't send their employees to two separate shows because work has to get done.

Patti,

That is exactly right.

A lot of people seem to be getting blinded by the fact the show was just cancelled, allegedly because of 'date' issues, thats not the only reason why it was cancelled.

Of course cancelling the show was a business decision on CCBills part, a very good one at that too. They realized that not only their business, but also that of the sponsors and attendees would have been adversly affected by the secret deals done by AVN/Epoch/Cybersocket to get the Gay Phoenix Forum cancelled to the detriment of the gay webmaster community.

A lot companies spent a lot of money this past week in sponsorship and parties, only to have it wasted by the actions of a small group of companies who couldnt get their own way and decided to throw a tantrum.... Even though they never showed their faces during the show, other than at their own 'parties'.

Im glad that CCBill decided to cancel the Gay Phoenix Forum instead of continuing to plan for an event that would have been ruined due to the behavior of a group of companies who are only looking out to line their own pockets, at the expense of the greater webmaster community they profess wanting to benefit.

Where was the benefit to the gay webmaster community in Phoenix last week while they were pulling childish tricks to try and make all of the sponsored gay events a failure?

The good news is, CCBill was on top of things, they heard what was happening and instead of getting pulled in to the pettyness, they re-grouped, took the high road and reacted to what was going on to make sure the companies (PrideBucks, DirtyTony, etc) got the best bang for their buck they could, even scheduling another extra event one night paid for out of their own pockets.

Regards,

Lee

[Lee]

Just a bump so that one of the 3 Epoch reps currently reading GWW has a chance to see this thread and provide us with some answers

Regards,

Lee