Xtube.com

[Jasun]

best thing I ever did.

I posted a full scene of a Jack Off race from Fratpad on xtube.com last week, and we've had a 25% increase in membership.

And the place is abuzz with how virtaully all of the new members found us by seeing that xtube video.

I think it's proof that if your content and concept are good enough, giving away free content is GOOD for business.

:jasun:

[vs eddie]

Congrats Jasun, I'm glad that worked out for you! :cheekymonkey:

[maxpower]

Just curious what the vides look like that your marketing like that, and if everyone else is giving them full scenes. I can see how you would get a boost if your one of only 50 full gay scenes they offer, yet if everyone is giving full length vids away this could kill of the few remaining guys we still have in this industry eventually.

I mean, I can see how if your one of a few that are giving away so much that your going to get a bump, yet if everyone does that this could be yet another nail in our coffin

[Jasun]

what I posted was a jackoff race between two of the guys. You see all of our models sitting around together and cheering the guys on.. having fun and being silly.

People saw the dynamic between the guys and decided they wanted in, I guess.

Either way, I figured I'd let you guys know.

Max, feel free to not do that.

[maxpower]

I am sorry man I know you get pissed but, can you not see how 50 full scenes could help sales while 500-5000 reg updated full gay scenes could eventually devalue about the only thing we have to sell anymore. :vanish:

I also know you photographers, think your videos are go good that regardless how many you give away and others give away that people will still flock to your site, yet I think this is foolish and kind of egotistical. Just wait a year or 2 when viewers say they got most of what you offer for free, and want a refund because why pay for this worthless crap. :thumbsup:

[Jasun]

You obviosuly don't get what I'm saying, Max. (if that IS your real name:catfight: )

I posted some footage from Fratpad.. it's a cam site.. it was a whole jack-off scene with all the guys together.

People saw the dynamic and liked it.. they joined.

YES, if you're doing produced scenes and giving them all away, it's probably not smart.

but what I was saying is that if you have something new and want to show it off.. it's probably not a bad idea to give one full scene instead of a few stills.

I'm sure you're too thick to get it. I was kinda waiting for your reply, really.

[maxpower]

Oh I get that man, and offering a few “cam” videos is a really good idea and I do not see that as all that dangerous for sure. Yet I do see this as a very slippery slop, gay webmasters are drooping like flies and really image content has become almost worthless in members areas if we do the same with Vids not sure what the fuck your going to sell then.

My name is Sean BTW :x

[gaystoryman]

Yep slop is slippery and some webmasters do droop, but a good marketing tactic showing an exclusive scene, from hundreds if not thousands of other exclusive scenes is a good draw, when most viewers are faced with nothing but leased over used video feeds. Sounds like a great use of Xtube Jason.. but then.. that's why you get the big bucks.. and you can spell too.. :kickcan:

[Jasun]

My ma ain't no raised none illeterate.

[maxpower]

As usual you guys dont understand, you think flooding the market with free full scene videos are going to help sales your a idiot. Yes in the beginning they help sales as people see this as getting a deal, and they are harder to find, but this will change really quick into people seeing these videos as worthless or what they expect to get for free.

And yes you can still push the exclusive stuff, but you are at the same time reducing your exclusive content to the leave that non exclusive stuff was before. I really don’t think most people give a FUCK where they get videos from, if Sean Cody gave all his content away for free, I am sure most of your viewers would not pay you a dime regardless.

Content is content to a point you guys have to get over yourself

[Jasun]

Max, you go right ahead and go flying off the handle.

I'll take a 25% jump in membership in a week and a half.

we'll see who gets the new car first.

Fratpad has 16-18 hours of fresh content on the site PER DAY..

Releasing an 11-minute bit onto xTube to show potential members what the site is all about is good business. Sorry you can't see that.

[XXXWriterDude]

As usual you guys dont understand, you think flooding the market with free full scene videos are going to help sales your a idiot. Yes in the beginning they help sales as people see this as getting a deal, and they are harder to find, but this will change really quick into people seeing these videos as worthless or what they expect to get for free.

And yes you can still push the exclusive stuff, but you are at the same time reducing your exclusive content to the leave that non exclusive stuff was before. I really don’t think most people give a FUCK where they get videos from, if Sean Cody gave all his content away for free, I am sure most of your viewers would not pay you a dime regardless.

Content is content to a point you guys have to get over yourself

Actually, Sean, I think you're the one who needs to get over yourself.

Market research has shown that giving away SOME free content as teasers provides incentive for people to join your program. And if you have the content to back it up, they will STAY on your site--even if there is free stuff out there for them to find.

Gay members are extremely loyal to programs that provide quality content, and they WILL stay if you keep giving them what they want. It's only when you provide sub-par content that they stray and go looking for the free stuff.

Because as much as we love the free stuff, there's just no substitute for the GOOD stuff.

[maxpower]

We are talking about the good stuff here, not some pic sets that are only really good for handing out for free now and graphics ECT.

I really can not don’t get why you guys can NEVER see the big picture, or what’s really going on. Yes their is NP with offering a few full length videos for free to offer a taste, but as more and more people do this leading to thousands of full length gay videos of every niche being offered for free it will do nothing but undermine one of the only things we have to sell anymore.

If you don’t get this and think all this is a good idea not sure what I can say to make you to understand then

[maxpower]

Max, you go right ahead and go flying off the handle.

I'll take a 25% jump in membership in a week and a half.

we'll see who gets the new car first.

Fratpad has 16-18 hours of fresh content on the site PER DAY..

Releasing an 11-minute bit onto xTube to show potential members what the site is all about is good business. Sorry you can't see that.

I might offer a few to tell the truth, and I really do think you run a world class site man. Its just that is hard for me to see this turning out very good for anyone in the long run

[XXXWriterDude]

We are talking about the good stuff here, not some pic sets that are only really good for handing out for free now and graphics ECT.

I really can not don’t get why you guys can NEVER see the big picture, or what’s really going on. Yes their is NP with offering a few full length videos for free to offer a taste, but as more and more people do this leading to thousands of full length gay videos of every niche being offered for free it will do nothing but undermine one of the only things we have to sell anymore.

If you don’t get this and think all this is a good idea not sure what I can say to make you to understand then

Sean, this bigger picture is that the INDUSTRY IS CHANGING. Content producers are going to have to figure out new ways of monetizing their content. The old model will soon die out, and a new one will take effect. Viral marketing and Xtube are not going away, and they are excellent methods for promoting one's self. And again, it comes down to YOUR content and how effective it is in retaining membership. If you're offering quality content that people want to pay to see, they will stay a member of your site. If you don't get THAT, then there's nothing anyone can say to help YOU.