President Bush to veto gay hate crimes bill

**ponyboy** · 05-03-2007, 02:57 PM

President Bush to veto gay hate crimes bill

What an animal! He really doesn't care about gay people at all!

When I first heard about the Matthew Shepard Hate Crimes Act - which would provide additional, federal resources to local law enforcement offices investigating hate crimes - I thought, "It's gay, but how can Bush veto this one?" After all, the article isn't about religious expression, freedom to carry "God Hates Fags" signs, or anything of that nature. It's only relevant if someone is the victim of a crime because they are gay.

Today, the White House announced that he will veto the measure. WTF?!

Okay, I get it - Bush is a bigot. But on what planet can legislation come to your desk that would make it easier to prosecute violent people committing hate crimes and you say, "Well, it says 'gay' in it..."?

My "favourite" quote on the matter came from Matt Barber of Concerned Women for America (CWA), who frequently speak out against gay rights:

"Perhaps most frightening is the fact that liberal legislators have refused any amendment which would substantively protect religious expression in association with this legislation...."

This man is actually using the religion card to justify crime! Okay, if he hates my "lifestyle choice" then that's his business, but that doesn't mean he ought to have the right to assault, rape or kill me in the name of Jesus Christ. He wants that written into the bill? You've got to be kidding me.

http://www.afterellen.com/node/11645

**DonMike** · 05-03-2007, 04:02 PM

and you're surprised by this?

**ponyboy** · 05-03-2007, 04:10 PM

I'm just pissed off about it, he said he thinks that its Unconstitutional, Fist off he thinks? How could hate crimes be Unconstitutional?

Is this guy unamerican or what?

**MiamiB** · 05-03-2007, 05:15 PM

What do you expect from an insane born again Christian!

Sad but true...

Lee

**ponyboy** · 05-03-2007, 05:32 PM

Every day I just shake my head every day!

**JamesXR** · 05-03-2007, 06:25 PM

It's just one more token present to the religious fundamentalists while he's still in office.

**Squirt** · 05-03-2007, 06:41 PM

To date, he'll go down in history as Americas worst president. Just another nail in his coffin :morning: Impeachment would be fun to watch

**ponyboy** · 05-03-2007, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Squirt

To date, he'll go down in history as Americas worst president. Just another nail in his coffin :morning: Impeachment would be fun to watch

You give the nails Ill give the wood for that coffin

**procam** · 05-03-2007, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by ponyboy

I'm just pissed off about it, he said he thinks that its Unconstitutional, Fist off he thinks? How could hate crimes be Unconstitutional?

Is this guy unamerican or what?

Tell the man what you think!

http://capwiz.com/politicsol/mail/?id=20004&type=PR

**ponyboy** · 05-03-2007, 07:24 PM

I have faxed the white house and I started a blog to

http://www.usimmigrationwoes.com/

**Squirt** · 05-03-2007, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by procam

Tell the man what you think!

http://capwiz.com/politicsol/mail/?id=20004&type=PR

Thanks for that link!

I filled out the info and sent my letter :thumbsup:

**JamesXR** · 05-03-2007, 08:34 PM

I hear a lot about impeachment, but technically what do you need to prove to get treason. Is selling your nation out time and again grounds? I am serious, what does treason take? That would send a stronger message to other corrupt politicians.

**Squirt** · 05-03-2007, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by JamesXR

I hear a lot about impeachment, but technically what do you need to prove to get treason. Is selling your nation out time and again grounds? I am serious, what does treason take? That would send a stronger message to other corrupt politicians.

Articles of Impeachment

of

President George W. Bush

and

Vice President Richard B. Cheney,
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice,
Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, and
Attorney General Alberto Gonzales

The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. - - ARTICLE II, SECTION 4 OF THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

President George W. Bush, Vice President Richard B. Cheney, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld, and Attorney General Alberto Gonzales have committed violations and subversions of the Constitution of the United States of America in an attempt to carry out with impunity crimes against peace and humanity and war crimes and deprivations of the civil rights of the people of the United States and other nations, by assuming powers of an imperial executive unaccountable to law and usurping powers of the Congress, the Judiciary and those reserved to the people of the United States, by the following acts:

1) Seizing power to wage wars of aggression in defiance of the U.S. Constitution, the U.N. Charter and the rule of law; carrying out a massive assault on and occupation of Iraq, a country that was not threatening the United States, resulting in the death and maiming of over one hundred thousand Iraqis, and thousands of U.S. G.I.s.

2) Lying to the people of the U.S., to Congress, and to the U.N., providing false and deceptive rationales for war.

3) Authorizing, ordering and condoning direct attacks on civilians, civilian facilities and locations where civilian casualties were unavoidable.

4) Instituting a secret and illegal wiretapping and spying operation against the people of the United States through the National Security Agency.

5) Threatening the independence and sovereignty of Iraq by belligerently changing its government by force and assaulting Iraq in a war of aggression.

6) Authorizing, ordering and condoning assassinations, summary executions, kidnappings, secret and other illegal detentions of individuals, torture and physical and psychological coercion of prisoners to obtain false statements concerning acts and intentions of governments and individuals and violating within the United States, and by authorizing U.S. forces and agents elsewhere, the rights of individuals under the First, Fourth, Fifth, Sixth and Eighth Amendments to the Constitution of the United States, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights.

7) Making, ordering and condoning false statements and propaganda about the conduct of foreign governments and individuals and acts by U.S. government personnel; manipulating the media and foreign governments with false information; concealing information vital to public discussion and informed judgment concerning acts, intentions and possession, or efforts to obtain weapons of mass destruction in order to falsely create a climate of fear and destroy opposition to U.S. wars of aggression and first strike attacks.

8) Violations and subversions of the Charter of the United Nations and international law, both a part of the "Supreme Law of the land" under Article VI, paragraph 2, of the Constitution, in an attempt to commit with impunity crimes against peace and humanity and war crimes in wars and threats of aggression against Afghanistan, Iraq and others and usurping powers of the United Nations and the peoples of its nations by bribery, coercion and other corrupt acts and by rejecting treaties, committing treaty violations, and frustrating compliance with treaties in order to destroy any means by which international law and institutions can prevent, affect, or adjudicate the exercise of U.S. military and economic power against the international community.

9) Acting to strip United States citizens of their constitutional and human rights, ordering indefinite detention of citizens, without access to counsel, without charge, and without opportunity to appear before a civil judicial officer to challenge the detention, based solely on the discretionary designation by the Executive of a citizen as an "enemy combatant."

10) Ordering indefinite detention of non-citizens in the United States and elsewhere, and without charge, at the discretionary designation of the Attorney General or the Secretary of Defense.

11) Ordering and authorizing the Attorney General to override judicial orders of release of detainees under INS jurisdiction, even where the judicial officer after full hearing determines a detainee is wrongfully held by the government.

12) Authorizing secret military tribunals and summary execution of persons who are not citizens who are designated solely at the discretion of the Executive who acts as indicting official, prosecutor and as the only avenue of appellate relief.

13) Refusing to provide public disclosure of the identities and locations of persons who have been arrested, detained and imprisoned by the U.S. government in the United States, including in response to Congressional inquiry.

14) Use of secret arrests of persons within the United States and elsewhere and denial of the right to public trials.

15) Authorizing the monitoring of confidential attorney-client privileged communications by the government, even in the absence of a court order and even where an incarcerated person has not been charged with a crime.

16) Ordering and authorizing the seizure of assets of persons in the United States, prior to hearing or trial, for lawful or innocent association with any entity that at the discretionary designation of the Executive has been deemed "terrorist."

17) Engaging in criminal neglect in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, depriving thousands of people in Louisiana, Mississippi and other Gulf States of urgently needed support, causing mass suffering and unnecessary loss of life.

18) Institutionalization of racial and religious profiling and authorization of domestic spying by federal law enforcement on persons based on their engagement in noncriminal religious and political activity.

19) Refusal to provide information and records necessary and appropriate for the constitutional right of legislative oversight of executive functions.

20) Rejecting treaties protective of peace and human rights and abrogation of the obligations of the United States under, and withdrawal from, international treaties and obligations without consent of the legislative branch, and including termination of the ABM treaty between the United States and Russia, and rescission of the authorizing signature from the Treaty of Rome which served as the basis for the International Criminal Court.

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SOURCE

http://www.impeachbush.org is a great site :thumbsup:

Here is a good primer on impeachment, it's history, and provisions for impeachment.