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    WTF? Major DVD Studios Report DVD Sales Are Dead...

    SAN FRANCISCO — Major players in the adult-entertainment industry, long in the vanguard of technology use, now find themselves playing catch-up.
    Overall sales and rentals of X-rated DVDs have plunged 15% in the last year and up to 30% over the past two years because video and photos on the Internet — much of it created by amateurs — are available at a fraction of the cost or for free. PornoTube.com and YouPorn.com are piping user-generated naughty content straight to the PCs, cellphones and Internet-connected TVs of consumers. Internet-based porn sales, by contrast, grew 14%, to $2.8 billion, last year.

    The exodus to porn viewing online has been accelerated by more broadband users shunning DVDs and pay-per-view TV in favor of PC screens, says Dennis McAlpine, managing director of media researcher McAlpine Associates. Changes in viewing habits have forced industry heavyweights to dramatically alter how they deliver content, he says.

    Vivid Entertainment Group, Hustler and Extreme Associates are rushing to offer movies on the Internet before they are available on DVD. Vivid is set to release its first video-only movie in July. And retailers in the shrinking $3.6 billion DVD market, such as HotMovies.com, are beginning to sell video downloads.

    Hustler runs 15 websites, many recently redesigned, and plans to add more sites with exclusive video and photos, says Michael Klein, president of its Broadcasting, Internet and Video Group.

    Steven Hirsch, co-chairman of Vivid, one of the world's top adult film producers, predicts DVD sales will largely be replaced by content sold on the Internet. Three years ago, 80% of its revenue came from DVD sales. Now, it's 40%, he says.

    "DVDs are dead," says Extreme CEO Rob Black. "The Web is where things are happening." The company is selling video clips on its website before they go to DVD.

    New tech unhinges industry

    For a $13 billion industry that has been at the cutting edge of tech use, the situation is ironic, says Frederick Lane, a longtime industry observer and author of Obscene Profits: The Entrepreneurs of Pornography in the Cyber Age.

    "Even the adult-entertainment industry can be caught by surprise by how fast technology moves," Lane says. "The small- to medium-size companies are getting hammered. "

    Pornographers have been among the first to exploit new technology for more than a decade — from video-streaming and fee-based subscriptions to pop-up ads and electronic billing. Their bold experimentation helped make porn one of the most profitable online industries, and their ideas — especially in video-streaming and online subscriptions — have become staples at Fortune 500 companies.

    Yet the acceptance of broadband use caught many porn purveyors flat-footed, McApline and others say. Some 62% of adults with Internet access at home had broadband in December vs. 50% in mid-2005, says the Pew Internet & American Life Project.

    The market dynamics have hurt several DVD-dependent companies, just as VHS companies went under when DVDs got hot, Lane says.

    "Consumers don't have to leave their homes anymore (to get DVDs)," says Bo Kenney, CEO of Sex-Z Pictures, which has 10 retail stores in Virginia. "They can watch whatever they want, whenever, from their PC or TV."

    Sex-Z has started producing DVDs, in addition to distributing them, to offset a steep drop in sales. It sold 800,000 DVDs last year, compared with 1.2 million in 2003.

    Sales for a hit DVD were 35,000 to 50,000 two years ago. Now, they are about 20,000, Kenney says.

    A market opportunity

    A spike in Internet-based porn sales the past few years underscores a thirst for adult content on the Internet that has yet to be fulfilled by large adult enterprises, say Lane and others.

    Most of the popular mainstream video sites (YouTube, in particular) censor explicit content.

    What's more, mainstream companies such as Playboy, Penthouse and Vivid provide a smidgen of free content before "they try to rope you into a subscription," says Eric Wold, managing director of equity research at Merriman Curhan Ford.

    Michael Herman, director of business development at Adult Entertainment Broadcast Network — owner of PornoTube.com, a YouTube-like site with user-generated content — says exposure on the Internet is ideal for a company's branding.

    PornoTube, started nearly a year ago, generates 10 million to 15 million hits a day — making it one of the 200 most-popular sites on the Web, according to Alexa, which tracks Internet traffic.

    Most of PornoTube's user-generated videos are free, but clips are limited to a few minutes. Consumers who want more must pay. PornoTube partners with others to sell subscriptions to paid websites, dating services and video-on-demand.

    "It's become an invaluable tool for us to promote business partnerships" with adult studios, Herman says.

    And it's a valuable outlet for adult performers. "I can do short clips just for the Internet," says Sunny Lane, an actress in Southern California who owns Sunnylanelive.com. "It's a way to make more money and gain more exposure."

    http://www.usatoday.com/tech/techinv...n_N.htm?csp=34

    Interesting stuff, especially as the decline figures posted in the article are pretty to similar to the decline in product sale figures ive noted as an affiliate over the past few years.

    I wonder if affiliates started to see the decline first, then the stores, then the studios themselves?

    I blame PPV/VOD for the death of physical product myself, especially as the decline in sale percentage wise in product, has a direct correlation with the increase in VOD sales for me over the past few years $0.02

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    This is no news to us. Thats why we have moved over to the net from B & M.


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    Meh.

    For Fratmen, the focus has been On-line content for a few years.

    Fratmen.TV has the entire Fratmen catalogue available for members and Fratpad has 16 hours of new content per day. We've been porting out our content to the Hard Gay Feeds Fratmen Plug-in and streaming our content to AEBN and MaleFlixxx for a while.

    We're about to have our stuff on digital cable, too.

    DVD sales aren't "dead" by any means. If your content is good, it WILL find a home and an audience. We still have members of Fratmen.TV who will buy their favorite movies on DVD to get the DVD extras and we still have lots of customers who buy every single DVD title we release.

    We look at DVD as the icing on the cake but it's very thick, rich icing.. any companies who are just shrugging off DVD sales are getting WAY ahead of themselves.
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    I tend to agree with Jasun - the sky is not falling.

    If you read this thread, then go to the several other threads about file sharing destroying online video, declines in membership sales and 2257 - I guess we might as well all pack up and work at Starbucks.
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    Again, I have to agree with Jasun. Yes, business is tough and you have to work harder for every dollar, but if you have good product it will sell. And if you have good product AND protect it from piracy then it can sell even better! <G> (Sorry, I always have to get my anti-piracy plug in!)

    This is really no different then when VHS sales started dropping off and they needed to be replaced with DVD sales. Now, it's DVD sales that are dropping off and they need to be replaced with VOD sales. It's really that simple.

    It's a simple adaptation of the distribution channel. You either adapt or you lose.


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    A very good example.

    30 years ago, rock musicians were terrified that Video was going to kill the Radio star.

    but although radio isn't the only kid on the block anymore, it's still around and there are still plenty of Radio Stars to go about.

    If pop muisic can adapt, so can we. The recorded medium will eventually disappear, but it hasn't happened yet. Fratmen and Titan and everyone else will have to find new ways for their customers to get their movies.
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    I agree with Jasun as well. If the content is good, there is still a marketing for a DVD.
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    We have, in the face of very vocal disagreement, been saying this very thing for some time. Hard product DVD sales are in decline. Broad market genre DVD sales are in decline. The larger the potential market the quicker the decline. The more niche the subject matter and product line, the slower the rate of decline.

    EMI is saying this is the last Christmas where CD sales will figure substantially in music sales. Large DVD companies are saying that their
    once anticipated run in the 10's of thousands of DVDs is dwindling. Straight porn companies have started saying their sales are dropping in the DVD market. Gay Porn, being a much smaller market, is presently in a slower rate of decline and we will see the broad market genres go first. There will be those who either refuse or cannot adapt to VOD purchases for their product and they will still purchase DVDs as long as they can find them. There are those who are brand loyal and will buy DVD product as long as they can find them.

    But, alas, yes, the DVD product market, despite some saying "sales are great!" is in fact in decline.


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    Baghdad Bob.

    The simple fact of the matter is, those of us with solid stats, are able to see a steady decline in DVD sales over the past few years, whilst PPV/VOD sales are steadily on the increase at roughly the same amounts as the decline in product sale.

    More and more studios are moving away from standard DVD/VHS distribution in favor of streaming their movies online exclusively, if DVD sales were still good, this wouldnt be happening.

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    I agree with Jasun...Sales on DVD is not declining...perhaps in the str8 market the sales have declined but the gay market is still alive. I do admit that sales have declined overall in the gay DVD market but you can still sell DVDs and do well and still worth producing and selling gay DVDs.

    With that being said, lets see what happens in 3-5 years from now...!!!

    Who knows....


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    Quote Originally Posted by allboysvideo View Post
    I agree with Jasun...Sales on DVD is not declining...perhaps in the str8 market the sales have declined but the gay market is still alive. I do admit that sales have declined overall in the gay DVD market but you can still sell DVDs and do well and still worth producing and selling gay DVDs.

    With that being said, lets see what happens in 3-5 years from now...!!!

    Who knows....
    Strongly disagree. You first say "Sales on DVD is not declining..." then later go on to say "I do admit that sales have declined overall in the gay DVD market"... Sales are in fact declining for hard goods DVDs. We have the numbers from distributors and our own sales on our retail stores to back it up. There has also been an ongoing attrition in adult video stores across the country due to declining sales. Some larger stores in some very large cities have closed because they simply don't have the sales volume anymore to support their large overhead costs. There will not be a DVD market in 3 - 5 years worth talking about. As stated before, the gay market will feel this at a slower pace, and the specialty producers even slower, however it all works on the snowball effect, eventually cascading into a collapsing market.


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    The only people that will suffer during this change-over are the brick & mortar stores. Overall demand for porn will never decrease. It will only increase as the population increases. The only constant is change... the form in which it is sold will continue to change.

    The only REAL threat to sales is piracy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    Baghdad Bob.

    The simple fact of the matter is, those of us with solid stats, are able to see a steady decline in DVD sales over the past few years, whilst PPV/VOD sales are steadily on the increase at roughly the same amounts as the decline in product sale.

    More and more studios are moving away from standard DVD/VHS distribution in favor of streaming their movies online exclusively, if DVD sales were still good, this wouldnt be happening.

    Regards,

    Lee
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    Hey Tombarr! I'm not here to argue and cause problems...yes the market is declining but want I meant to write was that I think the str8 market is feeling worse then the gay market. Currently our sales have been good and pretty much steady for the past several years. In addition, since we now distribute our own product and cut out the middleman, we find our sales increased and were making more money.

    However, I do agree at some point that the DVD sales are declining in the gay market but not as bad as many may think. You maybe having issue's with your own product and you maybe seeing a dramatic decline in sales with your DVDs but that doesn't mean all of us are feeling the same effects.

    Furthermore, our retail sales have been increasing each month and we find that consumer's rather just purchase directly from us then go to other sites or adult video stores. Again, its still worth selling DVDs in our case...however I do agree at some point that in 3-5 years sales will decrease even for us and that is why we are making the neccasary changes. I think in this type of business, especially today, we all must be ready for change and start thinking about the future. The technology and the delivery of porn is changing very fast and aggressively. Those who can change will be around for a long time and those who can't will dissappear.


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