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    Are Some People In The Industry Out Of Touch With Reality?

    For example this company...

    http://www.thepaysitecms.com

    Who wants $30,000 for a copy of their paysite CMS script LOL

    I mean really, do they actually expect anyone to pay that much when to have a script custom coded from scratch is only going to cost around $2k?

    I sometimes wonder if people price their products to find out who the idiots in the industry are that have more money than sense.

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    Lee


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    That's a totally outrageous price IMHO. What happened to a reasonable price tag and achieve lots of sales as opposed to a few sales to those that can afford such a price tag? And as you already mentioned, a custom job wouldn't price in at anything near that.


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    What an insane price, and while it might be an extreme example, I think it is bang on... many are indeed out of touch with reality. sad part is, they will never admit it, nor change.
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    On the other hand.... You have different fingers
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    It's possible this is made by the same bozos that were at internext a few years ago selling their shopping cart. They'd created a nice shopping cart that was used with the (then huge) online pharmaceutical industry. They were used to getting paid something like 20% commission on each sale - just for the shopping cart, mind you, no marketing or anything like that - and by the time we talked to them, they realized their payment model wasn't realistic, but hadn't figured out a reasonable one.

    I doubt this CMS even has any installed customers. It was "announced" at Internext 2007, their "testimonial" section has the same paragraph ("We offer the CMS on a leased basis for webmasters who want blah blah) repeated 6 times, the live demo doesn't work, and they have incorrect information about 2257 and it sounds like they have no idea of the 2257 requirements.

    The other thing is... I think I'm pretty much done with pay-by-month or pay-by-year licensing programs for software, and also done with software that's Zend encoded. If I'm going to license software, I want a reasonably priced perpetual license with source code so we can maintain it if the company disappears or flakes.


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    On the other hand.... You have different fingers
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    Further reading shows it's developed by AdultDesign.com, whom I'm not familar with. Supposedly they own some of their own paysites, so perhaps it's something they developed for their own in-house use and are now trying to sell it. I sent 'em an email and told 'em they were basically about $28,000 too high on the purchase price and if they decide to change their pricing structure to get in touch


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    let me think here... i can get a copy of MAS, which has been tested and used by dozens of people i know and can do virtually anything for $4000 or i can pay $30,000 for a script which no one i know uses that is advertised on a site that hasn't updated since it was released, doesn't even have testimonials and that made the testimoniails page with repeating text on it like a paysite template. hmmm... which would i go for?

    want to get a real idea of their professionalism and the way these people finish up their projects? go to http://www.thepaysitecms.com/faq.html and have a laugh.

    sure, some sites do have issues but if i'm supposed to be convinced to spend $30,000 on a script that won't do more than a $4000 script, the least they could do is finish the site.

    btw, they list 4 programs at the bottom of the page that use them.


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    Well if it has been made by a design company, the site says a lot about their design skills, with all the blank pages, typos, etc :eek:

    Im wondering though if they might be going after the green newbie webmasters who beleive what they are told about 'new' paysites costing them over $100k to start, would certainly explain the price if that was the case.

    Regards,

    Lee


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    hehehe...

    don't forget though.... all they need to do is make ONE sale to make a buck

    surely there's a aucker out there that'll shell out that much.


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    This is really expensive. I can make similar scripts for only $1,000 too.


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    Certainly ridiculously expensive. But I call bullshit on being able to get something custom coded to do the same job for $1k-$2k. You really think you can get a decent custom coded solution for that much when even the out of the box packages are 3-4 thousand dollars?


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    Our current CMS which was custom coded, cost us about $1700 and, for our needs, was *far* more flexible and capable than anything we found available at the time (2 years ago.)

    The new revision we're writing the specs for now is another level of complexity and flexibility, including integration into our (custom coded) 2257 solution and will probably cost us another $1000-1500, but will completely streamline the way we run our business.

    So yes, it's absolutely possible to get a high quality, custom coded CMS for under $2000.


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    Well then I guess I'll be eating my words now! And hook me up with your programmer, Chip! Hehe.


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    Well guys, it was made by EnvisionExt Adult

    http://adultdesign.com/


    They're quite known in design community (ask justusboys, edengay, etc.)

    Regarding price... maybe they accidently put one zero too much


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    Quote Originally Posted by chodadog View Post
    Certainly ridiculously expensive. But I call bullshit on being able to get something custom coded to do the same job for $1k-$2k. You really think you can get a decent custom coded solution for that much when even the out of the box packages are 3-4 thousand dollars?
    Yep.

    My current CMS only cost me $1500 initially and it does everything the off-the-shelf scripts do and more.

    Regards,

    Lee


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    For example this company...

    thepaysitecms.com

    Who wants $30,000 for a copy of their paysite CMS script LOL

    I mean really, do they actually expect anyone to pay that much when to have a script custom coded from scratch is only going to cost around $2k?
    Lee, since you don't run a software company, you have your own reality, and i have mine.

    I can bet you any amount of money you want, that you will not get a script with 10% of features that we have available for 2k.

    Our development cost us over 250k in 2 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee View Post
    I sometimes wonder if people price their products to find out who the idiots in the industry are that have more money than sense.
    You are calling some of the brightest minds in our business idiots, because you obviously don't know who our clients are If you care, i'd be happy to tell you under NDA, as our client's privacy is important to us.


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