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    Flavaworks Porn House Is Illegal

    The residents of Northeast 27th Street in Edgewater may not have neighbors like Pretty Ricky, Jerzey Flyrt and Nick Da Kannon for much longer.

    After 10 hours of listening to evidence and arguments, Miami's Code Enforcement Board ruled late Monday that Phillip Bleicher's Flava Works, an Internet porn production and distribution company, is illegally running an adult entertainment business out of a single-family home at 503 NE 27th St. -- zoned for residential use -- and ordered that those operations cease.

    ''I think the city has met its burden of showing a link between the house on 27th Street and the website,'' board member Oscar Rodriguez Fonts said before moving to deny a motion, made by Flava Works attorney James Benjamin, to dismiss citations posted by city code inspectors in May.

    The website is CocoDorm.com, where visitors can, for a fee, watch live video streams from the Edgewater house, where chiseled young males are paid $1,200, plus room, board and meals, to live in the two-story home for a month and have sex with each other on schedule.

    Monday's hearing was the third in the sex-house case. Assistant City Attorney Victoria Mendez argued that Bleicher also was running an illegal rooming house, but that violation was dismissed.

    Benjamin argued that the house, leased by Flava Works from owner Angel Barrios, was not part of the adult entertainment operation. He cited a Tampa case where the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that VoyeurDorm.com, a female version of CocoDorm, was not guilty of similar violations.

    He also argued that business transactions don't happen at the house and that all sales and distribution take place at Flava Works' office at 2610 N. Miami Ave.

    ''No member of the public came to the location to view, buy, trade or obtain any adult entertainment,'' Benjamin said.

    But Mariano Loret de Mola, the city's director of code enforcement, testified that, on one occasion, he saw a man he recognized as ''Dorm Dude'' Breion, who is prominently featured on the website's main page, walk up to the Edgewater house and punch in a code to let himself in.

    That, and the differences between Miami's and Tampa's laws, scuttled Benjamin's argument.

    ''Miami's adult entertainment ordinance encompasses Internet activity in a way the Tampa ordinance did not,'' Rodriguez Fonts said.

    Benjamin said he intends to file an appeal within the next few days. ''But we're not sure where we're going to file the appeal yet,'' he said. ``We're not going to put our tail between our legs and go away. The activity is protected by the First Amendment.''

    Mendez said the decision would not be enforced immediately.

    ''The city has no problem with giving them two weeks to get their business affairs in order,'' she said.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/news/miam...ry/203509.html

    With all the stick these guys have been getting in the past year you would have figured they would have dotted all their I's and crossed all their T's by now :eek:

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    Even if an adult company does everything right, right wing city zoning lawyers will agonize over new ways to shut adult companies down. Zoning is their most frequently used tool to shut down or harass adult companies, book stores, strip clubs, and as they become more common, cam houses will show up on their radar. I hope Coco Dorm wins because of the precedent it sets for the future.
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    Message From CocoDorm

    With the Code Enforcement Board's ruling, starting today, the city will fine us up to $500 per day for each day we remain open. We are filing an emergency motion in federal court to block the city's ruling citing VOYEUR DORM v CITY OF TAMPA and sue the City of Miami.

    Miami is wasting tax dollars to prosecute the legal CocoDorm residence, while drug dealers and prostitutes reign free on the streets of this neighborhood, which is known for it's infamous 'hoe stroll', but we suppose NBC and the city don't care about real problems.

    Customers do not visit the CocoDorm location and neighbors didn't know about CocoDorm (until NBC knocked on their door after they received an anonymous packet mailed by a competitor). What happens inside of CocoDorm is no different than what happens behind the closed door of any other house; people live, interact and have sex. This is our and your First Amendment right, and we will fight for these rights.

    By the way, no one from the neighborhood was present at any of the three hearings. In fact we have a petition of neighbors in support of CocoDorm!

    We will not close the CocoDorm!


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    Flavaworks - i'm curious why you have your business in a residential neighborhood. i know people in NON adult who have been fined and required to move their offices to places that are zoned for business. because of this, when we had an office, we took care to make sure it was located in an area rated for business.

    there are areas zoned for residential AND commercial - and usually the residences are cheaper. wouldn't it be more practical to run a live house in such an area? that would cut one of their arguments right out from under them...


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    Yes the CocoDorm is in a residential area, however, the business is located in a commercial area.

    Nothing happens in the house except for boys living and having sex there, same as what happens in many other homes behind closed doors, except we have cameras on the walls, which sends the live streams to our server at our business office. No customers come to the location and no business is transacted at the location.

    The CocoDorm case is no different from the Voyeur Dorm case, except we have Black & Latin males instead of females.

    The city of Miami claims the only area that a live cam house can be located is in a industrial area AND with special permits. This of course is all bullshit and once this case is heard before a judge in a courtroom instead of a volunteer community board, the decision will be in our favor. Which is why we are not moving and not shutting down.


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    i'm not a lawyer or a city planner, but what you are doing in the house - the guys having sex for videos and streaming - is part of your business. they wouldn't be there if it wasn't.

    in california, you must shoot content in a commercially zoned building, regardless of where and when it is used. it can be a fully closed and locked studio open to no one from the public, but if it's residential, you can be fined and shut down. it doesn't matter where you pay your models - the only point is that what they are doing is for pay and they are doing it at that location. i guess the laws are different there.


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    I agree with Chad that I hope, for the greater good of the adult industry, that the Voyeur Dorm precedent is upheld... but I think it's a specious argument that "no business is being transacted."

    If you have cameras, and people doing things on camera, and people are paying to watch the things happening on camera, that sounds an awful lot like a business to me. And while the monetary transactions themselves may not be occurring at the house, certainly business-related pursuits are.

    I wish you the best of luck, but I can also see why the zoning board might have a problem... it's one of those situations where if you make one exception, you're pretty much obligated to do it for anyone else who comes along, and the next business-related activity in a residential area might not be as low-impact as your cam house.


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    The more im reading about FlavaWorks the more i get the feeling that these guys just dont have a clue....

    Blogger Jasmyne Cannick reported at her site that she and other bloggers had been targeted for a lawsuit by Phillip Bleicher, owner of Flavaworks, which operates porn sites and publishes erotic magazines featuring African American and Latin men.

    Cannick wrote that Bleicher was seeking $250,000 for libel. "Good luck," Cannick wrote, saying, "I have a hard time getting $2.50 together much less $250,000," and stating later on in her blog that, "I know what libel is and I know what libel isn’t and nothing that was written was libel."

    Wrote Cannick, "We simply stated and facts, which I am happy to do again."

    Among the facts in question, which Cannick restated in her blog, were allegations that Flavaworks, which runs online sites Cocoboyz, Thugboy, and PapiCock, had been cited in a report by the Chicago Department of Health in connection with an investigation by the Department into sexual practices of the company’s young male performers.

    Cannick’s blog made reference to another blog site, run by Bernie Tarver, who Cannick said was also being sued by Flavaworks. Cannick wrote that Tarver had reported on a Chicago Free Press story in which the Chicago Department of Health had ordered Flavaworks to cease and desist on the basis that they "knowingly allowed the spread of HIV and other sexually-transmitted [sic] diseases" through unsafe sexual performances by their web site models.

    Cannick wrote that according to Christopher Brown, assistant commissioner for HIV / AIDS / STD programs at the Chicago Department of Public Health, the city’s Health Department was informed by HIV service providers that clients of the HIV service "could be seen on the website engaging in unsafe sex" (quote attributed to Brown).

    Wrote Cannick, "While the models are Black and Latino, the owner of the company, Phillip Bleicher, is White."

    Cannick also wrote that the models worked in poor conditions, that many of them were young runaways, and that the month-long contracts the models signed specified a given number of sexual performances that were due to earn a stipend. The stipend, however, was generally not equal to charges that the company allegedly levied--for food and bed linens, for example--and that this sometimes led to the models being in debt to the company, at which point they would be offered new 30-day contracts.

    Cannick wrote that Bleicher let Chicago for Miami, where NBC 6 ran a story in May that alleged Bleicher was running a web-based adult entertainment concern from a location in a residential area.

    Cannick’s report contained a quote from Miami Assistant City Attorney Victoria Mendez, who said, "It’s the city’s position that the activity that is happening at that location should not be happening."

    Mendez continued, "It’s a single-family residence and there are children in the vicinity, and the city feels that this should be stopped immediately."

    An attorney for Ravaworks, James Benjamin, was quoted in Cannick’s story as responding to this by saying, "I assure you that all of the allegations take place in a private area, behind a locked door, in a house that goes over out of cyberspace on the Internet."

    Continued Benjamin, "No child near there or anywhere outside the
    house has any idea what happens inside, just like nobody knows what happens in your house, sir."

    Cannick reported that the city of Miami cited the company for various code violations, and that the question of whether or not the web-cast performances were a violation has not yet been determined.

    Cannick wrote that before she was named in the lawsuit, her site received multiple messages in support of Flavaworks, including postings that pointed out Cannick’s own work had appeared in one of the company’s magazines, "which I have never ever denied."

    "At one time Flavaworks did contact me to publish my op-eds. So what?" wrote Cannick.

    "I don’t understand what that has to do with the Chicago Department of Public Health’s report and their other questionable activities. Money doesn’t equal silence."

    "I don’t have one issue with Flavaworks publishing my op-ed’s," continued Cannick. "In a sea of photos of half naked and naked men, at least for the five or so months they published my articles, their readers got some knowledge to go with that hand job."

    Wrote Cannick, "As far as I’m concerned, if the KKK had a national magazine and wanted to publish my articles they could as long as they paid me and didn’t edit it anyway [sic]."

    "If you like porn that’s your business," added Cannick. "I’ve got no issues with that. But there is a reason why all of these allegations and investigations are being launched against Flavaworks... something just ain’t right and sooner or later the truth will come out.

    "Don’t hate on me for reporting it."
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    Crazy stuff.

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    I am sympathetic to neighborhoods where this kind of thing takes place, but only so much. The mcmansion next door to us in Capistrano Beach is being used as an upscale drug rehab house. We were hoping for actual neighbors instead, but then again I don't see pornstars as being such bad neighbors. Perhaps we can work something out and trade our druggies for your pornstars.
    I think the biggest issue with having and active business in a residential neighborhood would be traffic. Laws aside, you wouldn't want to live next door to a liquor store, but if you actually have people living there rather than an active studio that doesn't seem like it would be so problematic.

    I'd think that the LA area would have different laws. Wouldn't porn shooting fall under the same rules as any other film shoots? It would seem that there would have to be regulations on film shooting in the area around Hollywood.
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    The Miami City Attorney seems terribly worried that there is gay sex going on inside a house and there are children in the neighborhood.

    Umm-- OK, so that could be MY house too --
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    in which I change my mind

    Yeah, that deal where you charge people for stuff you supply and pay them less than their expenses is how they keep legal slavery going in third world countries. Then the thing where they've got HIV positive models engaging in risky sex, that's also disconcerting. I take back my offer. I'll keep the druggies. Rehabbers sounds better than a pornslave HIV production company.
    I can imagine that if you worked in an HIV clinic and then saw your clients barebacking someone in real time, you'd probably get a bit agitated. You'd probably want to kick some ass.
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    Lee has no clue

    Perhaps if Lee read into the full story he would have a clue! Jasmyne is making this a race issue when in fact it is not. Please Read this Lee and get a clue.

    http://brooklynboyblues.blogspot.com...-time-for.html


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    there are areas zoned for residential AND commercial - and usually the residences are cheaper. wouldn't it be more practical to run a live house in such an area? that would cut one of their arguments right out from under them...
    problem with that is they would ALSO want you in special "sex approved" areas on top of this which are usually commercial areas in the slums.

    when we had our issues a few years ago with our neighbors we were lucky that the zoning board looked at us and wouldn't even get involved. we eventually just moved, it was cheaper in the longrun.
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    EXACTLY! They said we can move to an industrial area (which is the ghetto) and apply for a special use permit for CocoDorm. That is just bullshit!

    We do not run a strip club or adult bookstore, no customers ever set foot on the property!

    We're filing our appeal in federal court next week.


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    as far as i know, the only difference for sex industry businesses is the distance they must be from churches and schools, although that probably varies from state to state.

    Quote Originally Posted by collegeboyslive View Post
    problem with that is they would ALSO want you in special "sex approved" areas on top of this which are usually commercial areas in the slums.

    when we had our issues a few years ago with our neighbors we were lucky that the zoning board looked at us and wouldn't even get involved. we eventually just moved, it was cheaper in the longrun.


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