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    Cobra Video in WILLFULL Defiance of 18 U.S.C. 2257 and a formal complaint



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    Hehe

    maybe they would list the 2257 docs but just can't so they move from place to place

    The thing with the police station is HOT though
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    according to the blog, the custodian is still listed as the man who was murdered.

    Quote Originally Posted by DEVELISH View Post
    Hehe

    maybe they would list the 2257 docs but just can't so they move from place to place

    The thing with the police station is HOT though


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    I wouldn't put a whole lot of stock in that blog posting. That blogger is a huge fan of Brent Corrigan who lives in San Diego, where Brent lives, and basically worships the ground that Brent walks on.

    I've asked the question several times of various people whether there are backup copies of the Cobra 2257 data, and was told that the records had been scanned and copies were kept elsewhere... but I also heard that the guy who was helping Bryan was also desperately contacting former models and trying to convince them to provide new copies of their licenses.

    The thing that amazes me is, given the very public knowledge about the Brent Corrigan underage issue and the reliable accusations from others about 4 other models whose content was allegedly shot underage and held until they were of age, you would think that the new operators of Cobra Video (Bryan's sister) would be dotting i's and crossing t's to make sure everything is on the up-and-up, particularly given that she would now be the one responsible.

    At the very least, the address should reflect where they claim the records are rather than a vacant lot (the current address on the website.) And, as Patti said, the custodian of records has been dead for 8 months.


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    yep gaybucks_chip you are right and wrong about several points in your post about "that" blogger yes he is close to Brent and Grant.

    You are right Robert Wagner has been trying to reconstruct the Cobra 2257 records for months. So I dont think they have backups!

    The Wyoming post P of the Penn State Police is the "custodian of Record" for the Cobra 2257 records.

    A call to the Police office was made and THEY flatly deny any 2257 records are there ,no reason for them to be in a police station and where did I get this info. Well sir its on every copy of Cobras TILABB & Fuck Me Raw!

    The first two points on the blog are accurate and are not in dispute.

    "1. Cobra Video LLC is selling DVD's and providing video feeds of Sexually explicit material in violation of the U.S. Federal Law known as the Child Protection and Obscenity Enforcement Act of 1988. as amended June 23,2005

    2. Cobra Video LLC is operating without valid 2257 records on file at a publicly accessible location as required by 18 U.S.C. 2257."


    The two separate ongoing violations are related to the 2257 not being available for inspection. Everyone here is an expert on 2257 you can not operate sell or distribute without the 2257 statement accurately describing the place of inspection. ie making them available for inspection.

    point 3."Cobra Video LLC is in violation of 18 U.S.C. 2257 because the company does not have existing 2257 records for 6 years of production from 2001 to2007."

    Granted point 3 will be made or DISPROVED when the DOJ makes their inspection. A formal complaint has been filed to force an inspection.

    However common sense here if the records exist why the obfuscation by Cobra and Mr.Wagner.

    The four underage models you mention has grown to a larger number in the last 7 months. I know of 3 personally and thru an industry contact one of the boys was 14, all duly reported to authority's. The Shit is soon to hit the fan and yes the "blogger in question" aims to shut Cobra down No Apology's will be made for that!


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    Am I wrong in thinking the model names should be listed for business security?

    Although dealing with any cobra content sales is a security issue within itself, those that do push it should know IF IN FACT the models are not of age.
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    Hi, DeWayne,

    If you followed the nuances of 2257 as closely as most of us in the industry do, you would realize that the situation isn't quite as cut-and-dried as you state.

    First, there is no provision in the regulations to force an investigation as a result of a complaint, or even a group of complaints to the FBI about a given producer. If there were, disgruntled ex-models would be making accusations and the very limited resources of the Innocent Images division that handles such matters would be completely overwhelmed. The division, like all law enforcement offices, does its best to allocate resources where they will do the most good. Going after a dead producer is probably not high on their list, and unless Cobra starts shooting new content, doing an investigation will probably also not rank high on their list.

    Second, there have been a grand total of maybe 20 inspections in total since the original 2257 regulations went into effect in 1995. The agent in charge of the team that handles 2257 inspections has indicated publicly that it is unlikely they will pursue prosecution of administrative violations (i.e., failure to update a 2257 address after a fire) provided that the records are available for inspection elsewhere.

    I suspect that the 2257 address on the latest DVD release was simply ineptitude on someone's part when the graphics were being prepared; this was the first DVD after Bryan's death, so Bryan's sister or whomever had probably not dealt with the issue before and didn't know to (as we do) quadruple check all of the 2257 information before the disc goes to manufacturing. No one in their right mind would willfully put a police barracks as a 2257 address. I think that's pretty much a non-issue.

    I understand that Bryan had converted his records to electronic format in 2005, so it seems likely he would have kept a disc with all the records offsite somewhere but of course, that's for someone else to figure out. I do agree that if the records were available, Robert would not be contacting models for copies of IDs, if in fact that's true.

    So the truth is that any statement about Cobra's 2257 records being in violation (other than administrative violations, which are not of the highest priority) is nothing other than conjecture.

    I have heard from credible sources I trust that several models had reported that Bryan did, in fact, do photo shoots when they were underage and then hold their content until after they turned 18. Even if this is the case, it will be nearly impossible to prove. There is no provision within 2257 to fix or verify the date a production is actually photographed, so if, as has been alleged, Bryan shot the scenes when the model was underage and had the model return after his 18th birthday to get the ID pics and the release signed, there would be very little evidence to prove when the content was actually photographed. And, since the guilty party is deceased, little good would come of it, other than getting the content removed from circulation.

    I've heard enough from various sources, including models of ours that were solicited by Bryan, to be able to believe that a lot of unsavory things happened at Cobra Video. And I agree that if Cobra is selling DVDs or VOD for which no 2257 records exist, or the age of the models is questionable, that any such content should be pulled from distribution, in the same way that Pacific Sun pulled the four titles Sean was in. Cobra Video, and Bryan's estate, should not be permitted to profit or continue to profit from content that was illegally produced. And I hope that eventually the feds *do* inspect Cobra's records. But I just don't see that it is going to be high on their priority list when there is no evidence of ongoing criminal activity, the models in question were in their later teens, and the perpetrator of the crimes is deceased. It's frustrating, but that's the world we live in.

    I can understand why people are passionate around this issue, but vengeance and revenge and so forth are generally not very healthy or positive actions to be taking on, particularly when the perpetrator is deceased. Sean is an incredibly intelligent and talented guy, and honestly, in my book, has a lot more to offer the world than being involved in porn. I think that he'd do really well to just move beyond the industry and put all of the nastiness behind him, and find a way to use his intellect and abilities in an industry where he doesn't have to deal with all the drama and backbiting.

    I believe that the overwhelming majority of companies in our industry are run by honest people who do properly comply with all of the regulations required by our government. Companies who flagrantly violate the letter and spirit of the law, such as what Cobra is alleged to have done, *should* be taken to task and either brought into compliance or shut down.

    I do hope the FBI investigates, but I don't believe in jumping to conclusions or making accusations when no proof is forthcoming.


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    Quote Originally Posted by IdolKnights View Post
    Am I wrong in thinking the model names should be listed for business security?

    Although dealing with any cobra content sales is a security issue within itself, those that do push it should know IF IN FACT the models are not of age.
    Honestly, anyone carrying Cobra titles or promoting Cobra on VOD ought to be really thinking about that. Although the legal risk to the VOD provider or affiliate is small, one would also have to think about the ethical considerations of promoting a title that has a reasonable likelihood of having an underage model performing in it.

    As mentioned above, it will be nearly impossible to prove. Unless the FBI wants to slap a 2257 action against the current records custodian (whomever that is) and require withdrawal of the titles they believe are in violation in exchange for dropping other charges, it's unlikely anything will ever come of it.

    Remember that Cobra itself did not actually withdraw the 4 titles known to have Sean's underage performances; it was the distributor who did it, based on information provided by Chad Belville to the FSC.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gaybucks_chip View Post
    I understand that Bryan had converted his records to electronic format in 2005, so it seems likely he would have kept a disc with all the records offsite somewhere but of course, that's for someone else to figure out. I do agree that if the records were available, Robert would not be contacting models for copies of IDs, if in fact that's true.
    We know that the police were able to recover the data from Bryan's hard drive(s). That is how they originally discovered his connection with Harlow.

    So it is one possibility that they also recovered the digital 2257 documents, but would not provide them to the new owners of Cobra. I don't know how this works. Obviously the police are not going to give up physical evidence. Maybe their policy is the same for digital evidence.

    That could explain why they listed a police address for the 2257. Assuming they were recovered, that is technically where you'd go to check them.
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