2257 regulations reguarding TGP gallerys or content you dont own.

[MistahTaylor]

Ok so I need to know, I have been asking numerous people in the industry Michael Brandon from raging stallion, Chip from 18west and many other people that I know, know there facts and they all seem to have something different to say..

So my question here is..
TGP gallerys if you are not the original photographer/owner and you do not own the content do you have to keep 2257 records on file now for things that you host off your server that are explicit in anyway?? Im not speaking inreguard to Gallerys that are hosted by the content owner themselves for others.

One anwser I had got is if they are touching themselves ( there penis etc.. ) You have to have 2257 records cause at that point it is considered explicit.

I know a lot of people have been modifying or taking down TGP gallerys lately and Im wondering why they are doing so..

Just wanna make sure Im completly legal

ALSO are TGP gallerys worth messing around with now.. especially with how regulations are becoming more stiff all the time??

Please give me your opinion thanks..

[basschick]

as of june, 2005, all webmasters are considered producers and must have i.d.s for all sexually explicit content and act as custodian, not just the content owner.

as of the new law, that applies to simulated sex and most nudity, as well.

so if you run a tgp that shows thumbs, or if you are showing nudes with erections, you must have i.d. for all models, you must post the necessary 2257 link on your gallery that links to your work address, and if you are not there during all business hours, you must post the 20 hours or more where law enforcement can find you there each week.

and in the near future, the regs may change again so that each gallery has the actual 2257 info on the page.

TGP gallerys if you are not the original photographer/owner and you do not own the content do you have to keep 2257 records on file now for things that you host off your server that are explicit in anyway?? Im not speaking inreguard to Gallerys that are hosted by the content owner themselves for others.

[MistahTaylor]

HOLY MOLY.. To me it doesnt seem like it is even worth it.. I should move to canada LOL thanks so much

[MistahTaylor]

as of june, 2005, all webmasters are considered producers and must have i.d.s for all sexually explicit content and act as custodian, not just the content owner.

as of the new law, that applies to simulated sex and most nudity, as well.

so if you run a tgp that shows thumbs, or if you are showing nudes with erections, you must have i.d. for all models, you must post the necessary 2257 link on your gallery that links to your work address, and if you are not there during all business hours, you must post the 20 hours or more where law enforcement can find you there each week.

and in the near future, the regs may change again so that each gallery has the actual 2257 info on the page.

YOU KNOW.. IM SORRY BUT WHATEVER HAPPENED TO THE SAYING "LAND OF THE FREE" IT SEEMS LIKE THAT SAYING OUR BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY WAS BUILT ON MEANS LESS AND LESS EVERYDAY.. SORRY FOR THE CAPS BUT IT MAKES ME SO MAD AND DISSAPPOINTED THAT PEOPLE MAKE DECISIONS FOR EVERYONE ELSE CAUSE THAT IS THE WAY THEY WANT TO LIVE THERE LIFE *SHAKES HEAD* Whatever :thumbsdown:

[MistahTaylor]

Also how is XTUBE.COM getting away with not having 2257 records for all there amateur videos?? and if they are getting some sort of records how are the absolutely verifying the persons really identity. Kinda hard to match someones ASS HOLE with there face :goatse:

[basschick]

i believe - and i could be wrong - that they fall into the law that has to do with message boards and dating sites. i could be wrong about that, though. maybe ask chad?

[gaybucks_chip]

Xtube is based in Canada. That's how they're doing it at the moment.

Pornotube (based in the US) is trying to argue that they are not in any way involved in the publication of the content, they are simply an ISP. I think that argument is complete BS and would get shot down instantly if the justice dept. called them on it... but Pornotube is owned by AEBN, who has more money than God, so they probably figure that they will squash the government with legal motions if anyone ever comes after them. Not a strategy I would try.

For the moment, a lot of people are relying on the very thin ice of the Sundance vs Reno decision, which stated that secondary producers were not required to keep records. However, that decision was effectively rendered moot by 4472/2257A, which became law last summer. Most legal opinions I've heard indicate that 4472 can't be enforced until the new regulations go into effect, which hasn't happened yet. That's why you still see all of the TGPs and so forth... people are hoping and praying that Sundance will still hold, at least until the new regulations go into effect.

Personally, I wouldn't go anywhere near a TGP or anything involving hosted content for which you don't have records until all of these issues are cleared up.

[abostonboy]

Personally, I wouldn't go anywhere near a TGP or anything involving hosted content for which you don't have records until all of these issues are cleared up.

Unless you do a text tgp. God, back in the day they use to send some good SE traffic. I am sure they still could.

I use to submit 3-5 gals a day and each gallery would pull in 10 SE hit after a week or so. Times that by 365 days a year times 2 years. Do the math.

[MistahTaylor]

Well it is a bummer cause I really wanted to start a TGP traffic site and now I dont think I even wanna bother until I see what is going on with all the 2257 bullshit. I really wanna get involved in the support of some of the stuff that is going on.

[basschick]

well, you could start a text description tgp...

[abostonboy]

well, you could start a text description tgp...

I would even submit!

[basschick]

i would submit nn muscle galleries if that would help... also foot fetish.

[MistahTaylor]

i would submit nn muscle galleries if that would help... also foot fetish.

Hey basschick what is your take on my ass/butthole niche site Im opening.
(Do you find it to something that is quite popular or searched for often?)

Also do text based TGP's solely based on a gay mens ass hole's do they do well?

Sorry for being so blunt but you have to be in this business hehe..

[basschick]

i actually pm'ed you on another board about this... sort of. what kind of action will you be showing on the site, and will the focus basically be ass and asshole or ? right now, the only rimming sites out there don't actually have much rimming, but there's a lot of traffic for it. there's more assplay sites, although not that many male toy sites.

a tgp with that tight of a niche will be rough. there's not that much content in that niche, so it would be virtually impossible unless you make hundreds of your own galleries.

Hey basschick what is your take on my ass/butthole niche site Im opening.
(Do you find it to something that is quite popular or searched for often?)

Also do text based TGP's solely based on a gay mens ass hole's do they do well?

Sorry for being so blunt but you have to be in this business hehe..

[MistahTaylor]

a tgp with that tight of a niche will be rough. there's not that much content in that niche, so it would be virtually impossible unless you make hundreds of your own galleries.

actually Im working on content just like this.. it is solely based on rimming/toys/assplay and nothing else you will see the penis and the person but out of 250 shots of each set of each model either duo or solo it all just about the ass and nothing else. The textures,angles,all that sort of stuff this will be an ASS DREAM for anyone who has a fetish like me and it will be super custom to specs.. The TGP gallerys will be specifically for me but I also wanted incorporate other such types of websites and there content mixed in with mine if you get what I mean.