Another Stolen Content Group

[BuzzWestChris]

They have alot of videos from many sites. I recommend joining their little group to see if any of your stuff is on there.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LowMailDailyGayVideo/

[SPACE GLIDER]

oh ... this is a good idea

[Jasun]

I'm going to come across like a jerk, maybe and I'm probably going to get fired from the anti-piracy seminar for saying this but my attitude is that we spend WAY too much time fighting the people who dont' want to buy our content and not nearly enough catering to the people who DO.

We found that when we stop worrying about piracy and instead focus on making our site worth joining, we make more money, we have more fun doing it and our "fuck it all" factor goes way down.

[Squirt]

When I saw the full fratmen sites, sean cody, SG4SE, mine, and most every Gay adult site I know of, all uploaded in one file for each site, to the various torrents I thought the same thing.

The current laws PROTECT torrent sites, so what's the point?

I'm going to come across like a jerk, maybe and I'm probably going to get fired from the anti-piracy seminar for saying this but my attitude is that we spend WAY too much time fighting the people who dont' want to buy our content and not nearly enough catering to the people who DO.

We found that when we stop worrying about piracy and instead focus on making our site worth joining, we make more money, we have more fun doing it and our "fuck it all" factor goes way down.

[Titanmen]

Jasun,

That is a very short sighted attitude. While you can never stop all piracy, if you don't at least try to keep it at bay you will end up losing it all in the end. Any well run company should be able to do both at the same time. Focus on the customer expericance and have an anti-piracy component.

Yes it's frustrating, yes it's a drain sometimes, yes it seems like you are fighting a never ending battle. But, if you don't then you might as well just shut the doors and find another business. Your content is worthless if it only has a shelf life of a couple of months before it's avialable for free all over the net. No one can afford to make anything of quality if that is the case.

Don't give up so quickly, anti-piracy can and does pay off in the end. We are proof of that.

Squirt- the current laws actually do not protect torrent sites. We have gone after several torrent sites and have shut them down completley. They are a little harder to go after legally, but it is possible.

[Squirt]

Squirt- the current laws actually do not protect torrent sites. We have gone after several torrent sites and have shut them down completley. They are a little harder to go after legally, but it is possible.

Doesn't that depend on where they are located?

[djdez]

The current laws PROTECT torrent sites, so what's the point?

DMCA was an aweful law. I'd love to see it repealed, but I know it won't.

[Titanmen]

It doesn't really matter they are located. Having them located in the USA makes it much easier, but having them based off shore doesn't mean you can't do anything about them. We've dealt with German, Spanish and Russian sites and have been succesful.

It all comes down to following the money....they all need money to operate. Go after their money sources and/or flood their ISPs with take down notices and legal demand letters. Most ISPs don't want to have to deal with a legal battle, so they will often kick the site off their system after repeat violations.

Once you put the ISP/Host on notice that the site is violating their own TOU/TOS they then become secondarily liable if they don't do anything about it. This is pretty much the same for hosts anywhere in the world. They all pretty much comply with the Berne Convention and honor the DMCA.

But, I have to say that unless the demand letters come from an attorney they do not carry much weight. To be successful the letters must come from an attorney, or they will pretty much be ignored. When they get an letter from an attorney they know you have spent the money and are serious. It's amazing how much faster people respond when the letter comes from an attorney!

[Titanmen]

Oh, and the other trick is if the ISP/Host (Google, Yahoo, MSN groups) is not responding fast enough...on the next take down notice you send CC the group "Concerned Women for America" (cwfa.org) and include some wording about how concerned you are that graphic adult content is being made to children. That usually gets them moving real fast! <EG>

[PornTeam]

I tried to join the group today, was denied and then told they are no longer accepting members. Now the group is gone. interesting.....

[nickbaer]

I joined it yesterday when I first saw this thread.

Today's 5 posts had mostly pale uncut guys - so that focuses their interest on Euro content.

Then about a half hour ago news that the owner changed the name of the group - a sure sign that the heat has been turned up. Someone needs to notify Yahoo Groups Admin...

Hello,

The moderator of the LowMailDailyGayVideo group has changed the group's name.
This means that both the group's email address and the group home page
location have changed.

The group email address:
LowEMailDailyGayVideo@yahoogroups.com

The group home page location:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LowEMailDailyGayVideo

If you have links which point to this group or an address book entry
for the group, you should update them, as the old addresses will no
longer work.

Regards,

Yahoo! Groups Customer Care

[PornTeam]

Now they are saying: "Sorry at this time the group is not accepting new members"

[nickbaer]

Group Not Found

There is no group called LowEMailDailyGayVideo. Please make sure you typed the web address correctly. If you have done so, the group may no longer exist.

You may also search or browse for groups on the Yahoo! Groups Home Page.

[CorbinFisher_BD]

Speaking of bad Yahoo! groups,

http://br.groups.yahoo.com/group/deus_grego/

is the worst one I've seen yet. Affiliated with the deus grego blog on blogspot, that was also a particularly bad offender.

So folks may definitely want to check for their content in there.

[PornTeam]

looks like he changed the name of the group yet again.