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    SAFE Act Passes House Vote - Users Must Report 'Illegal' Images

    The U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday overwhelmingly approved a bill saying that anyone offering an open Wi-Fi connection to the public must report illegal images including "obscene" cartoons and drawings--or face fines of up to $300,000.

    That broad definition would cover individuals, coffee shops, libraries, hotels, and even some government agencies that provide Wi-Fi. It also sweeps in social-networking sites, domain name registrars, Internet service providers, and e-mail service providers such as Hotmail and Gmail, and it may require that the complete contents of the user's account be retained for subsequent police inspection.

    Before the House vote, which was a lopsided 409 to 2, Rep. Nick Lampson (D-Texas) held a press conference on Capitol Hill with John Walsh, the host of America's Most Wanted and Ernie Allen, head of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

    Allen said the legislation--called the Securing Adolescents From Exploitation-Online Act, or SAFE Act--will "ensure better reporting, investigation, and prosecution of those who use the Internet to distribute images of illegal child pornography."

    The SAFE Act represents the latest in Congress' efforts--some of which have raised free speech and privacy concerns--to crack down on sex offenders and Internet predators. One bill introduced a year ago was even broader and would have forced Web sites and blogs to report illegal images. Another would require sex offenders to supply e-mail addresses and instant messaging user names.

    Wednesday's vote caught Internet companies by surprise: the Democratic leadership rushed the SAFE Act to the floor under a procedure that's supposed to be reserved for noncontroversial legislation. It was introduced October 10, but has never received even one hearing or committee vote. In addition, the legislation approved this week has changed substantially since the earlier version and was not available for public review.

    Not one Democrat opposed the SAFE Act. Two Republicans did: Rep. Ron Paul, the libertarian-leaning presidential candidate from Texas, and Rep. Paul Broun from Georgia.

    This is what the SAFE Act requires: Anyone providing an "electronic communication service" or "remote computing service" to the public who learns about the transmission or storage of information about certain illegal activities or an illegal image must (a) register their name, mailing address, phone number, and fax number with the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children's "CyberTipline" and (b) "make a report" to the CyberTipline that (c) must include any information about the person or Internet address behind the suspect activity and (d) the illegal images themselves. (By the way, "electronic communications service" and "remote computing service" providers already have some reporting requirements under existing law too.)

    The definition of which images qualify as illegal is expansive. It includes obvious child pornography, meaning photographs and videos of children being molested. But it also includes photographs of fully clothed minors in overly "lascivious" poses, and certain obscene visual depictions including a "drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting." (Yes, that covers the subset of anime called hentai).

    Someone providing a Wi-Fi connection probably won't have to worry about the SAFE Act's additional requirement of retaining all the suspect's personal files if the illegal images are "commingled or interspersed" with other data. But that retention requirement does concern Internet service providers, which would be in a position to comply. So would e-mail service providers, including both Web-based ones and companies that offer POP or IMAP services.

    "USISPA has long supported harmonized reporting of child pornography incidents to the (NCMEC). ISPs report over 30,000 incidents a year, and we work closely with NCMEC and law enforcement on the investigation," Kate Dean, head of the U.S. Internet Service Provider Association, said on Wednesday. "We remain concerned, however, that industry would be required to retain images of child pornography after reporting them to NCMEC. It seems like the better approach would be to require the private sector to turn over illicit images and not retain copies."

    Failure to comply with the SAFE Act would result in an initial fine of up to $150,000, and fines of up to $300,000 for subsequent offenses. That's the stick. There's a carrot as well: anyone who does comply is immune from civil lawsuits and criminal prosecutions.

    There are two more points worth noting. First, the vote on the SAFE Act seems unusually rushed. It's not entirely clear that the House Democratic leadership really meant this legislation to slap new restrictions on hundreds of thousands of Americans and small businesses who offer public wireless connections. But they'll nevertheless have to abide by the new rules if senators go along with this idea (and it's been a popular one in the Senate).

    The second point is that Internet providers already are required by another federal law to report child pornography sightings to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children, which is in turn charged with forwarding that report to the appropriate police agency. So there's hardly an emergency, which makes the Democrats' rush for a vote more inexplicable than usual.

    http://www.news.com/8301-13578_3-982...ml?tag=cd.blog

    I must admit, i had heard of this before but didnt realize it was trying to be rushed through this year.

    How do you folks feel about letting members of the general public decide whether images on your site are 'illegal' or not and reporting you just to make sure?

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    Oh my god what an intrusive and overreaching law!!

    In the unlikely event that it can pass the Senate this law could not pass Constitutional muster. Another stupid, hastily conceived law that would be struck down by the courts.
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    Given how I have seen some act on the boards, I can see this becoming a huge boon to those seeking to eliminate competition. Just from what you've posted, I am glad I ain't living down there. :coffee:
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    So basically if you have an open WI-fi ... go find a hentai site, turn it in and you're safe from prosecution forevermore. Great law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bec View Post
    So basically if you have an open WI-fi ... go find a hentai site, turn it in and you're safe from prosecution forevermore. Great law.

    ugh
    Right, thats kinda fucked up because if you report someone, you basically get immunity for doing illegal shit yourself under this new law should it make it in to the law books

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    "Failure to comply with the SAFE Act would result in an initial fine of up to $150,000, and fines of up to $300,000 for subsequent offenses. That's the stick. There's a carrot as well: anyone who does comply is immune from civil lawsuits and criminal prosecutions. "

    "This is what the SAFE Act requires: Anyone providing an "electronic communication service" or "remote computing service" to the public who learns about the transmission or storage of information about certain illegal activities"

    Out of curiosity... if you happen to have a Wi-Fi in your home, as I do, and I happen to not 'learn about the transmission (blah blah blah)", does that mean that I'm within compliance of the law, since I can't technically turn someone in if I don't know that they're doing something illegal?

    And does this law mean that I'm exempt from -ALL- civil lawsuits and -ALL- criminal prosecutions, or simply all that are pertaining to actions regarding this law, as a protective measure against any suit that may follow from the accused? Or is it simply to protect me from being prosecuted because I kept a copy of illegal material, so that I can be compliant with the law, thus keeping me from a catch-22 of being required to keep illicit materials by law, when it expressly forbidden by law to be in ownership of said materials?

    Does this law affect only entities who purposefully offer usage of the intar-webbs to the public, or does it also affect me as an individual just because I don't feel like tearing my new house apart so I can run cables upstairs to my bedroom and elsewhere in the house for guests?

    Also, am I in non-compliance if I don't do my utmost to monitor my wi-fi at the house from anyone that happens to be piggy-backing? (to be honest, I don't really mind too much if people do - I've been in situations where I was in school and needed the connection, but the library was closed, so we're pretty lenient about it.)
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    I wonder if this pertains to only organizations providing free wi-fi or if it could include people running wireless networks without security as well. That would be interesting if someone was piggy-backing off someone elses insecure network and used this law in their favor. *shrugs*


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