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    LP statement on Ron Paul

    Source: LP.org

    Dear Libertarian,

    Throughout the year, as you could imagine, questions about Ron Paul have been non-stop. Both our members and the media swamp every line of communication available.

    While reporters generally dance around the issues, looking for a salacious story about Congressman Paul, our members get right to the point:

    "What are you doing to support Ron Paul?"
    "Why haven't you endorsed Ron Paul?"
    "Why are you avoiding Ron Paul?"
    "Why isn't...?
    "Why is...?
    "Why don't...?"
    "Why won't…?"
    "...Support Ron Paul!"

    Trust me, in our small Watergate office, the words "Ron Paul" echo throughout the hallways all day, every day, as we respond to the many questions posed by passionate Libertarians who call, e-mail, mail and visit our office.

    If you think about it, this appears to put us in a tough position. We're the Libertarian Party, and Ron Paul is seeking the Republican presidential nomination. It's not our issue, right?

    A party loyalist would not dare say something positive about a member of another party...right? Blind partisan loyalty is why Republicans and Democrats are so powerful...right?

    No!

    Partisanship is why they are corrupt. The Republican and Democratic parties exist to maintain their own power...that's about it.

    We exist for liberty.

    With integrity in our lives and in our organization, Libertarians have fought with long odds for more than three decades. We battle Republicans and Democrats who betray our principles of peace and freedom.

    But now, we have a man of principle who is igniting a fire of liberty across the nation and, go figure, he has an "R" next to his name. So, what do we do? To some, this appears to be a black-or-white issue with only two options:

    Do we stubbornly stand by and pretend Ron Paul does not exist?

    Or . . .

    Do we throw out 36 years of work, violate our own bylaws and principles, and convert to the Republican Party and join Dr. Paul?

    Both of those are obviously horrible non-options.

    What we can do is show respect for our Party's history, bylaws and members while making an effort to recognize the revolution that's taking place around the country.

    Over this past weekend in Charleston, South Carolina, the members of the Libertarian National Committee (LNC) did just that.

    It would be inappropriate and a clear violation of our bylaws for the LNC to simply "nominate" Ron Paul for the Libertarian ticket as many of his supporters have requested. That's not a decision for the LNC to make--that's the duty of Libertarian delegates at our National Convention.

    What the LNC can do is attempt to "recruit" a presidential candidate, and while in Charleston, the LNC unanimously passed a resolution that states the following:

    WHEREAS, the Libertarian National Committee encourages competition in the race for the Libertarian Party’s presidential nomination and is appreciative of all candidates who make the commitment to run;

    NOW THEREFORE, in the event that Republican primary voters select a candidate other than Congressman Paul in February of 2008, the Libertarian National Committee urges Congressman Ron Paul to seek the presidential nomination of the Libertarian Party to be decided in Denver, Colorado during Memorial Day weekend of 2008.

    The LNC has made a respectful gesture and it's up to the good Congressman to accept or decline when he chooses to do so. And just so you know, so far, the response from Dr. Paul's campaign has been the standard: "We have no intention to seek the nomination of a third party."

    Additionally, the LNC voted to allow me to pursue an effort that will allow Ron Paul supporters to contact voters in the upcoming New Hampshire Republican primary to tell them about Dr. Paul.

    They will be able to do this through our resource, www.BallotBase.org, which is essentially a decentralized call center. From the comfort of your own home, you can use the system to call voters on behalf of a candidate. It's easy to use and can be incredibly effective.

    In order to use Ballot Base, you have to register by providing us with your name, address, verified e-mail, etc. and then you can start calling within minutes.

    Now, I need you to know that these are very controversial decisions and there are some people who are very upset.

    A few are upset that we've invited Dr. Paul into our presidential race, while others are up-in-arms that we've used LNC resources to benefit a Republican. At first glance, they have an argument, so let me take a minute to FULLY DISCLOSE what this is about, how it works and what we're possibly giving up and gaining.

    We plan to use the Ballot Base to affect a Republican primary. To do so, we give up the following:

    The use of a server that is not even moderately used during the political off-season.

    An independent expenditure of $2,120 to purchase the New Hampshire voter files of registered Republicans.
    Moderate use of staff time.

    Now, here's what we possibly have to gain:

    We make it possible to influence a Republican primary race in the favor of liberty...just as we have done in the past with other primary races.

    We gain the ability to build a lasting relationship with a large group of pro-liberty activists.

    Most importantly, through the Ballot Base registration process, we are able to reach out to many thousands of people who share many common values with the LP.

    Hopefully, one day down the road, as we continue to build our relationship, they will take the bold step of joining the Libertarian Party or supporting our efforts.

    So, for a few thousand dollars, use of a server and some of our time, we are able to create a network of communication with what I hope will be thousands of hard-working and passionate lovers of liberty.

    In the meantime, a soft-spoken Republican congressman named Ron Paul gets a leg up over the likes of Rudy Giuliani and Mitt Romney.

    Sound good to you?

    If so, keep reading, as I need you to do me a very big favor.

    Today is December 11th. Thirty-six years ago, our Party was founded by a handful of people who wanted to stand up in defense of liberty. Yep--it's our 36th birthday!

    The decisions made by the LNC this past weekend were bold, decisive and in my opinion, necessary. We can no longer stand by and do nothing when such an incredible opportunity exists for the Libertarian Party.

    If you agree with these decisions, show your support by sending us a strong message in the form of a significant gift as we celebrate our 36th birthday. To donate, click here.

    I appreciate your continued support and please know that together, we will always remain the Party of Principle.

    For Liberty,

    Shane Cory
    Executive Director
    Libertarian National Committee

    P.S. If you are behind these efforts, please forward this message to friends and family and ask them to go to www.BallotBase.org to join the effort!
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    I like this quote from him:

    “we dont get our rights because we are “gay or women or minorities”, we get our rights as indiviuals”

    - Ron Paul

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    The Libertarian party once ran Pat Buchanan as their candidate.

    that was when they went from a party worth a second look to a bunch of stupid buffoons in my eyes. I'd sooner vote for the Fart Party.

    But yes.. if the Republicans ran Ron Paul, I'd vote for him in a second.
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    Does anyone know RP's stance on Gay marriage?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Squirt View Post
    Does anyone know RP's stance on Gay marriage?
    "If I were in Congress in 1996, I would have voted for the Defense of Marriage Act, which used Congress’s constitutional authority to define what official state documents other states have to recognize under the Full Faith and Credit Clause, to ensure that no state would be forced to recognize a “same sex” marriage license issued in another state...

    I plan to continue working to enact the Marriage Protection Act and protect each state’s right not to be forced to recognize a same sex marriage."

    - Ron Paul - October 1, 2004

    He is also in favor of keeping "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" in place.
    He also is against same sex couples adopting children.


    He is a complete ass.
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    He's actually changed his stance on that and now says that the Government should stay out of it altogether.

    Says that Government's failing because it's too busy wasting it's time on social issues.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJz81...on-paul-o.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasun View Post
    He's actually changed his stance on that and now says that the Government should stay out of it altogether.

    Says that Government's failing because it's too busy wasting it's time on social issues.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJz81...on-paul-o.html
    Yeah, I saw that too. But his vote record still stands for itself. I agree totally that the government should stay out of it, but I am looking for a candidate who will stand UP for our rights, not just pretend that they should stay out of it.

    I think he is taking the easy cop-out route...which might also explain why he is a Republican and not a LP member.
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    Patrick Buchanan did not run as a Libertarian. He left the Republican Party and ran on the Reform Party ticket. (that was the legacy of Ross Perot's Presidential runs)

    Ron Paul voted against amending the US Constitution to define marriage. http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2006/roll378.xml

    I'm pretty sure he takes the position that it should be up to the states to decide that question.

    I'd be surprised if Ron Paul ended up running as a Libertarian again. Well... okay, actually I can think of one reason --- automatic ballot access in additional states.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TropixxxStudios View Post
    Yeah, I saw that too. But his vote record still stands for itself. I agree totally that the government should stay out of it, but I am looking for a candidate who will stand UP for our rights, not just pretend that they should stay out of it.
    So does this mean you'd never vote for Dianne Feinstein for Senator of California? She voted for the Defense of Marriage Act..... and so did Bill Clinton (essentially)

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    Ah.. got it.. yeah, I'd forgotten about the Reform Party altogether.

    Either way I'm not flushing my vote down a third-party toilet. Sorry.. I don't care if the Democrats run Porky Pig and Oprah. I'll vote for whomever they've got.

    I've had more than enough of the Republicans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by desslock View Post
    So does this mean you'd never vote for Dianne Feinstein for Senator of California? She voted for the Defense of Marriage Act..... and so did Bill Clinton (essentially)

    Steve
    That's correct. I would never vote for her, and I won't vote for Hillary because I think she is just like her husband and will betray us in the end.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TropixxxStudios View Post
    That's correct. I would never vote for her, and I won't vote for Hillary because I think she is just like her husband and will betray us in the end.


    I'm sure I'm opening a can of worms here..but what do you mean by "Hillary betraying us in the end.."?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansized View Post
    I'm sure I'm opening a can of worms here..but what do you mean by "Hillary betraying us in the end.."?
    For all the lip service that the Clintons give to gays, I just do not believe that she has our best interest at mind. I think they (the Clintons) are political animals, who will do anything to get what they want, including selling out the people who helped get them there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TropixxxStudios View Post
    For all the lip service that the Clintons give to gays, I just do not believe that she has our best interest at mind. I think they (the Clintons) are political animals, who will do anything to get what they want, including selling out the people who helped get them there.


    And we can depend on every other candidate for this office to be the OPPOSITE?

    In your opinion, WHICH candidate do you think does have our best interest in mind and why?


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    The Libertarian Party first needs to firmly establish themselves in Congress before they can field a serious presidential candidate.

    As long as the news media covers only major party candidates, that is unlikely to happen.
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