Kocis' Father Suing Murder Suspects

[Lee]

The father of murdered porn producer Bryan Kocis is suing his son's alleged killers, according to documents filed Monday in the Luzerne County Court of Common Pleas.

Michael Kocis, of Plymouth, is seeking unspecified damages from Harlow Cuadra and Joseph Kerekes, who allegedly murdered his son and then burned down his Dallas home.

Investigators allege romantic and business partners Cuadra, 26, and Kerekes, 33, killed Kocis to lure his premier actor to their own pornography business.

In January 2007, the two Virginia Beach men allegedly stabbed the 44-year-old Kocis to death and set his house on fire, according to investigators.

Cuadra and Kerekes are both charged with homicide and are being held as they await their trial. Prosecutors are seeking the death penalty in the case.

http://www.citizensvoice.com/site/ne...d=618523&rfi=6

I wonder if this civil case will be tried before the criminal one and, whether or not the outcome will affect the result of the criminal trial if so?

Chad, do you know whether a civil case can be tried prior to a criminal case?

Regards,

Lee

[jIgG]

I thought a judge won't see a 2nd case if the first one is still pending?!

[Alex_Manifest_M]

I wonder what the benefit is of suing these two? What is there to gain?

[chadknowslaw]

A civil case is to recover money, and since both defendants appear pretty much bankrupt I don't see the point. In the infamous OJ case, even though he was acquitted of the criminal charges he was found civilly responsible for Nicole Simpson and Goldman's deaths. However, OJ had assets and future income to recover.

[wildwildwest]

I'd hate to know I had parents that would have nothing to do with me alive, but to wait until after my death to pursue financial interests.

[Matt 26z]

Hypothetically speaking if there was a rumor that a couple people helped authorities to stay out of trouble themselves, does that protection carry over into civil court?

[Dilbertdidporn]

Short Answer No!

But the couple in question did not get an offer of immunity to "help" the prosecution in the criminal case.

If Chad is skimming this thread I heard scuttlebutt that Michael Kocis is also suing Attorney Sean Macias, Bryan's Cali Civil Trademark lawyer I have no idea why unless he misrepresented the Settlement between Sean Lockhart and Bryan Kocis signed in San Diego Jan 20,2007

[SPACE GLIDER]

Did they really kill him to lure his star actor over to THEIR porn business?

[gaybucks_chip]

The only people who truly know the answer to that question (and I'm not trying to say who those people are, 'cause I don't know) aren't talking. So any answer would be purely speculative.

This case is a mess. The people who were charged don't seem to have a decent motive, unless they are completely stupid. Killing someone over a business deal, particularly over one model, no matter who it is, is simply ridiculous. On the other hand, Bryan had a lot of enemies, including more than one individual who directly stated they were interested in hiring hit men.

I'm not even sure that a guilty verdict in the cases of the two men charged will bring complete clarity to the case, unless the two charged individuals offer up a confession.

It's a sad state of affairs.

[chadknowslaw]

Short Answer No!

But the couple in question did not get an offer of immunity to "help" the prosecution in the criminal case.

If Chad is skimming this thread I heard scuttlebutt that Michael Kocis is also suing Attorney Sean Macias, Bryan's Cali Civil Trademark lawyer I have no idea why unless he misrepresented the Settlement between Sean Lockhart and Bryan Kocis signed in San Diego Jan 20,2007

I guess that case was bad for other lawyers as well if it is true.

One of Kocis' attorneys filed a complaint with the Arizona Bar Association against me because he dug up every post I ever made on GWW and reported a post I made about hiring hookers in Bangkok to the Bar as an ethical violation. It was dismissed as unfounded but I did have to explain to a Bar ethics investigator that yes, I am not ashamed to be openly gay, and yes I did write the post but I am sticking to it and by the way Mr. Bar Investigator Can I refer you to the 1st Amendment of the US Constitution??
I thought it was a very low and unethical tactic used against me personally.

[Dilbertdidporn]

Hi Chad I remember that attack against you, but of course you know that came from Kocis. He was like a wild attack dog in 2005 hiring PI's to investigate Grant Roy, Stalking Sean, harassment and stalking were the orders of the day.

I myself was offered cash to spy on them and keep track of daily activity's. (I live close by)

Gaybucks Chip Motive is only important as far as what Joe and Harlow believed Bryan's death would mean for them.

J & H were not, despite public statements interested in Brent Corrigan solely as a model but as an Escort. Boybatter was earning chump change as a Porn Co. (who here knew about them a year ago?)

The real income was Norfolk Escorts and the initial offer to Brent Corrigan was 10K then 30k where do you get numbers like that in Gay porn?

You Don't!

No matter Joe and Harlow were 1 Million dollars in debt one year ago Today!

Half Million on the house,
Over 120K in Credit cards maxed out!
4 high end cars.
Rolex watches(6)
They Owed everybody,,,

They had to make 32K a month just to make the minumum payments on their lifestyle, not counting Food,Gas,Electric,Gym,and Liposuction for Joe (6K)His & His Chinchilla Coats (spur of the moment purchase in Vegas)
$5995,00 each

There is your motive folks Cash Desperation!

They felt killing Bryan would somehow land them Brent Corrigan let them makes some vids fast then if that didn't earn enough,, get him to join the Escort biz and really make some money!

It all sounds to me like Meth Heads planning the perfect crime

Which means its was the Perfect Fuckup by two Yahoo's!

[Matt 26z]

Holy shit you are the Perez Hilton of gay porn. You need a whole website now. You have a blog somewhere though don't you?

[gaybucks_chip]

Like I said, the people who know aren't talking, and everything else is speculation.

There are a ton of people who are in debt up to their eyeballs who don't go around killing people.

The circumstantial evidence, from what I've read of the original bill of particulars, certainly paints a pretty strong picture, but the motive is the weakest part. The alleged motive is also contradicted by the emails from Joe to Grant.

We simply don't know who did what, who put whom up to what, or anything else. It's all speculation.

[SPACE GLIDER]

It all sounds to me like Meth Heads planning the perfect crime

That meth is really something. It's convincing people that their minds are expanding and filling them with wisdom, but it's really SHRINING their brains so that the dumbest ideas seem brilliant.