For $2500 A Month - How Much Work Would You Expect?

[Lee]

From a designer working 5 days a week at 8 hours a day?

Specifically, when it came to certain types of design work for example..

X amount of affiliate designs
X amount of paysites
X amount of banners
X amount of FHGs
X amount of FPAs

If you were paying $2500 a month for a designer what would you actually expect to get out of that investment in the space of 30 days?

Early next year we may be in a position to hire a full time designer and he is looking for roughly $2500 a month to work 5 days a week @ 8 hours a day and we're actually really liking the work he has done for us so far.

Regards,

Lee

[Jasun]

for $2500 per month?

Do I have to get out of bed?

Cuz that's just not enough, sorry. :jasun: :shithitfan:

[ArmpitLover]

Damn the cost of living must be cheap where you are!!

As for what you'd expect? I can't say, as I would never be able to get anyone for that price unless they were based abroad.

Damn... $2.5K for skills???

Damn!

[chadknowslaw]

I would want at least 2 blow jobs and 5 hand jobs a week.

Wait, I think I misunderstood the question~

[abostonboy]

HUGH! $2500 a month? That's 30k a year. I would expact him to show up for work and hop on Manhunt...

[100boys]

I think you can find designers with good skills for much less if they are located in the right countries. So why shouldn't Lee have a designer for 2500$ a month? We have a full time employee for 300$ a month, not in the US obviously and she makes two times the money now as she made when working in a bank. She's well educated, too, studied banking and finance and her english is quite good.

[gaybucks_chip]

Actually, I would disagree with nearly everyone here. 30,000 a year is roughly $15 an hour, and that is a reasonable rate for a somewhat experienced designer if you're hiring them full time. It would be a bit more in an expensive major city such as San Francisco bay area, but before we were offshoring most of our design, we were regularly getting excellent freelance us-based designers for $20-25 an hour, and two of them said they'd work for $15-18 on a full time basis.

Now... if you're going with high-end design studios or designers with a well established reputation, $35 to $75/hour is not at all uncommon, though every designer I've talked to is finding it harder and harder to command those rates, particularly in adult.

As for the amount of work... my experience is you have to watch them fairly carefully because, as Lloyd said, without supervision, they'll be on Manhunt or Myspace or somewhere. A TGP gallery should take an experienced designer no more than 1-2 hours (and often less) unless it's really fancy, a tour page with a lot of custom work on the images and such might take between 6 and 15 hours, again depending on the complexity. A designer who is fresh out of school will probably take longer, but one who has worked in any sort of production shop should be able to turn out stuff fairly quickly.

[Lee]

A TGP gallery should take an experienced designer no more than 1-2 hours (and often less) unless it's really fancy, a tour page with a lot of custom work on the images and such might take between 6 and 15 hours, again depending on the complexity. A designer who is fresh out of school will probably take longer, but one who has worked in any sort of production shop should be able to turn out stuff fairly quickly.

Thats pretty much what i had in mind work wise..

3 FHG designs in a day at least
1 Paysite tour in 2-3 days
1 Affiliate design in 3-4 days
25 banners in about a day

Obviously after the first few weeks the guy will 'know' the layout and style i like so things should be easier for him in terms of any revisions, etc to so that workload could become more producive in terms of turnaround times.

Glad im kind of on the right track with what i was thinking, thanks Chip

Regards,

Lee

[Bec]

For good banners -- you may need to re-evalutate that 25. Banner sizes now easily approach the same amount of time that a half or full page ad required a couple of years ago.

On average, once I have sizes, and material, it takes 30-40 minutes to make the largest of a series. Complex can take a good hour. Resizes and cropping downwards, about 15 minutes each.

[gaybucks_chip]

We haven't done as much with banners, but I would hazard that a well designed banner could actually take *longer* than a TGP gallery because one has to cram more info into a smaller space, often with animation... so I could see Bec's numbers not only being accurate, but I would add that a new designer will probably not be able turn out banners nearly as quickly as Bec can, because she's been doing it a long time