As Its Good Friday...

[Lee]

I was wondering why it was that most in the adult industry dont really have any strong religious affiliations?

It seems more than anything, the vast majority of adult webmasters are somwhat anti-religion, your thoughts?

Regards,

Lee

[DrChango]

To be perfectly blunt, I would be surprised if that was not the case.

What we do, especially for those folks that post on this board, is promote something that is considered blasphemous by most established Western religions. Most of the churches I've ever set foot in would kick a person out for running a gay TGP, or at the very least have a nice, embarrassing prayer vigil for that person (and name them and what they did/do) to either get them to stop or get them to leave.

Walk into a mosque and chit-chat with people there and answer "I run a gay porn site" when they ask you what you do for a living. If you're lucky, you would be politely asked to leave.

There are a couple of religious groups in the United States that don't treat homosexuality as a cardinal sin, but even those guys I couldn't see openly condoning the porn industry.

Just my $.02

[MiamiB]

I am an atheist and strongly anti-religious. I think that the sooner all religions are wiped out the better off the world will be. There has been more harm done in the name of GOD than good.

[Lee]

I am an atheist and strongly anti-religious.

Oxymoron anyone? LOL

You cant be an athiest (a religious grouping) and be anti-religious at the same time

Regards,

Lee

[Lee]

I was brought up C of E but very rarely did the family do anything 'religious' in fact, i can honestly say ever since high school the only times i have ever stepped foot in a church was for a wedding or a funeral.

Regards,

Lee

[MiamiB]

Oxymoron anyone? LOL

You cant be an athiest (a religious grouping) and be anti-religious at the same time

Regards,

Lee

Sure you can...here is a good example:

"My last vestige of "hands off religion" respect disappeared in the smoke and choking dust of September 11th 2001, followed by the "National Day of Prayer," when prelates and pastors did their tremulous Martin Luther King impersonations and urged people of mutually incompatible faiths to hold hands, united in homage to the very force that caused the problem in the first place."

Richard Dawkins, The Devil's Chaplain (2004)

[Lazer]

Oxymoron anyone? LOL

You cant be an athiest (a religious grouping) and be anti-religious at the same time

Regards,

Lee

I'm an atheist as well and I just have to point out that the word has nothing to do with religion, It just refers to someone who doesn't believe in God, ('a-'=no, 'theo-'=god) that's all, it's not a religion anymore than not believing in Santa Claus or, more topically, the Easter Bunny, is a religion.

But i do love holidays and especially Easter, as it's roots are in the pagan fertility rites of spring..... I'm all about it! 8====> ~~~~~~

[DrChango]

Oxymoron anyone? LOL

You cant be an athiest (a religious grouping) and be anti-religious at the same time

Regards,

Lee

atheism isn't a religious grouping (though it is treated like an adversarial religion by religious groups)...it is a rejection of religion and theism of any sort (you might be thinking of agnostic, which is often treated as being interchangeable with atheist)


To best sum up my feelings on religion, I would have to point to that scene from the West Wing where Martin Sheen throws all those passages from Exodues and Leviticus into that religious "Dr. Laura" type lady's face

[Lazer]

Sure you can...here is a good example:

"My last vestige of "hands off religion" respect disappeared in the smoke and choking dust of September 11th 2001, followed by the "National Day of Prayer," when prelates and pastors did their tremulous Martin Luther King impersonations and urged people of mutually incompatible faiths to hold hands, united in homage to the very force that caused the problem in the first place."

Richard Dawkins, The Devil's Chaplain (2004)

hrm, that reminds me, I've been trying to score a certain copy of "The God Delusion" off a certain Las Cañitian for some time now :whip:

[MiamiB]

hrm, that reminds me, I've been trying to score a certain copy of "The God Delusion" off a certain Las Cañitian for some time now :whip:

Sorry about that...something came up and I tried to text you about getting together Thursday! I am sure this weekend we can connect and I can give you that book!

[Lee]

Actually, being an atheist means you dont beleive in or worship a god.. Kind of like Buddhists, bud Buddhism is a religion in and of itself.

Historically several civilizations around the world practiced atheism as their state religion, despite not being followers of a specific god or deity... This practice dates back hundreds of years in Europe, Asian and Russia.

So yes, atheism is a religion in and of itself (because it has a beleif system attached to it.. the belief that God doesnt exist), it just doesnt have a specific 'immortal' being (read as God) attached to it.

Nonetheist or agnostic is the term i think you were looking for

Regards,

Lee

[Lazer]

Actually, being an atheist means you dont beleive in or worship a god.. Kind of like Buddhists, bud Buddhism is a religion in and of itself.

Historically several civilizations around the world practiced atheism as their state religion, despite not being followers of a specific god or deity... This practice dates back hundreds of years in Europe, Asian and Russia.

So yes, atheism is a religion in and of itself (because it has a beleif system attached to it.. the belief that God doesnt exist), it just doesnt have a specific 'immortal' being (read as God) attached to it.

Nonetheist or agnostic is the term i think you were looking for

Regards,

Lee

well no, not really, agnostic means you aren't sure if there's a God. Atheism is saying you are sure that there's not. There's no such thing as a practicing atheist, because they have nothing to practice, simple as that.

[Lazer]

Sorry about that...something came up and I tried to text you about getting together Thursday! I am sure this weekend we can connect and I can give you that book!

no worries, Lee, i'm just playing..... i've been here long enuff to appreciate the laid-back-ness of being a porteño
let me kno when u have some free time and we'll rock it

[Lee]

There's no such thing as a practicing atheist, because they have nothing to practice, simple as that.

You missed my point, your belief as an atheist, is that there is no God.

To be considered a 'religion' all a group of individuals need to have is a common belief, hence... atheism must intrinsically be a religion.

Regards,

Lee

[DrChango]

You missed my point, your belief as an atheist, is that there is no God.

To be considered a 'religion' all a group of individuals need to have is a common belief, hence... atheism must intrinsically be a religion.

Regards,

Lee

I think that still relies on the underlying assumption that people have to believe in something. Believing in a diety/higher poor/what-have-you is treated as a default state of affairs. Atheism's very definition is not believing in a deity, not "those that believe in no god". Sounds like splitting hairs, but I think it does carry some import. Agnostics tend to acknowledge the existence or potential existence of a higher power, but do not accept the conventional definition of a god.

I used to get into scuffles with the over-bearing religious assholes at my high school (they vandalized my car for having a Darwin fish on it), and those scuffles as often verbal as physical so I can argue the point all day

(PS, not trying to bicker, I just enjoy a philosophical/sociological debate!)