Drunk Sex Content?

[Lee]

I wanted to know your thoughts on this, im actually considering doing some truly genuine drunk sex shoots for a site concept i want to launch on Raunch Revenue in a couple of months time however....

Im in two minds about whether the models should actually be drinking during the shoot or not, one one hand i want the shoot to be as realistic as possible but on the other, i dont want the models to be forced in to doing something they should not have to.

I understand they will be told what the shoot will entail and sign all the required docs and release forms prior to the shoot happening so they *will* be sober when it comes to giving their consent to do the shoot but what do you think about actually getting the 'drunk' during the shoot itself?

I know drink and drugs are typically not liked on a shoot by producers or others in the industry but i strongly feel having the guys getting drunk as the shoot is going on will add a touch of realism to it that it wouldnt otherwise have.

At the same time, liquor and drugs should never be part of a shoot.

How would you folks handle this situation as it directly relates to a set of 7 specific shoots, using specific models who are over 21?

Regards,

Lee

[nickbaer]

unsafe, unhealthy, bad role models, wrong to "make fun" of drunken individuals. Also model releases I use specifically ask models to acknowledge that alcohol is not used to induce the model's performance.

[Bec]

I wouldn't touch photographing a drunk model for any amount of Bling ... you're asking for trouble.

[Lee]

Bec,

Typically i would agree with you however, given there are plenty of 'drunk' spring break / mardis gras type sites out there (even some that arent, that type of site, College Sex Parties from TopBucks for example) i think there are exceptions to the rule and i do feel like a really good exception to the rule is going to be doing a shoot specifically for a 'drunk sex' site.

If the models know what is going to happen, the producer does his part and there is someone there to make sure things dont get out of hand etc, it should be okay right?

I mean most producers have their models sign a liability waiver anyway, so long as all the 'legal paperwork' is taken care of prior to the shoot, there shouldnt be any legal issues that arise.

Regards,

Lee

[Squirt]

I was going to do a site like this a while back so I registered twobeerqueer.com back in 2006, I let it expired this last February.

I say go with your gut if you have a concept that you think will work.

[thedevilcomes09]

i agree, as long as the models are aware and you have all the legalities sorted you shouldn't get :whip: in the future.

good luck with it but!

[Jeff@UKSLads]

My personal feelings aside, how drunk do you mean? Are they stewed out of their minds, or just mildly buzzed? Who among us hasn't had a few beers or a few too many glasses of wine before getting it on with someone? Of course, if you're too drunk, "whiskey dick" kicks in and forget about a damn hardon. Viagra could help that I suppose. But then you're mixing drugs with booze. Usually a toxic combination.

I don't think there's anything wrong with the models having a few drinks and giving the "impression" they're hammered. But getting to that point in reality could present a lot of problems. i.e. - Belligerence, illness and of course, legal ramifications if something goes wrong.

Our chavs at UKScallyLads usually have a few beers before fucking their brains out. In fact, it's a large part of our niche. Wouldn't have it any other way.

[Lee]

Of course, if you're too drunk, "whiskey dick" kicks in and forget about a damn hardon.

See thats the thing right there, part of the 'niche' in some aspect is that sometimes the models cant 'get it up' which adds to the realism of the shoot.

Giving prescription drugs on a set would never be something id be involved with so the whole Viagra issue is a moot point for me, my concern is how to effectively sell the niche in the shoots, whilst making sure the talent is looked after and the surfers viewing the content actually wants to buy it.

Lets be honest, most talent in the adult industry arent exactly good at what you would call 'acting'

Regards,

Lee

[CamCruise]

Just a really bad idea.
To ask any model to work on a set where you have to be drinking for real will open you up for law suites in my opinion.
I can see models saying, Oh, I would have never have done that if I was not been told to drunk.
Or if something should happen to your models on the set while they are drunk. Well then your just screwed.

Now if you just have them act drunk like they do on all sets that have drinking in the real movies. Then thats just acting and thats OK.

[Jeff@UKSLads]

See thats the thing right there, part of the 'niche' in some aspect is that sometimes the models cant 'get it up' which adds to the realism of the shoot.

Giving prescription drugs on a set would never be something id be involved with so the whole Viagra issue is a moot point for me, my concern is how to effectively sell the niche in the shoots, whilst making sure the talent is looked after and the surfers viewing the content actually wants to buy it.

Lets be honest, most talent in the adult industry arent exactly good at what you would call 'acting'

Regards,

Lee

Oh it certainly would be a good selling niche. No doubt of that. I guess the concept of including alcohol in the mix can be a bit scary for those on the outside looking in. If you can pull it off and it all stays legal, I can't see any problems with it. Just be prepared to deal with a lot of drunk idiots is all. LOL. It's why I don't drink that much anymore or only do it at home and even stay off the damn computer. Believe me!! LOL!!

You may have to hire some bouncers and keep a tight reign on things. If pulled off right though, it could be quite lucrative I would think.

Best of luck with it if it takes flight!

[Lee]

To ask any model to work on a set where you have to be drinking for real will open you up for law suites in my opinion.

It wouldnt open me up to lawsuits at all.

Im not going to be shooting the content and as already said, so long as the models sign all the required documentation when they are sober, with a full disclosure of what is to happen on the shoot, there should be no recourse at all, so long as everything went to script.

Regards,

Lee

[CamCruise]

It wouldnt open me up to lawsuits at all.

Im not going to be shooting the content and as already said, so long as the models sign all the required documentation when they are sober, with a full disclosure of what is to happen on the shoot, there should be no recourse at all, so long as everything went to script.

Regards,

Lee

Sorry I dont see it that way.

Thats just like saying that a model that is negative that signs all the required documentation to bareback with poz men makes the studio not responsible should they become POZ.


We would never do that. Nor would we ask them to drink to shoot with us.

[Lee]

Thats just like saying that a model that is negative that signs all the required documentation to bareback with poz men makes the studio not responsible should they become POZ.

You are missing my point entirely.

I WILL NOT BE SHOOTING THE CONTENT which means that I will not be liable for anything.

Regards,

Lee

[CamCruise]

You are missing my point entirely.

I WILL NOT BE SHOOTING THE CONTENT which means that I will not be liable for anything.

Regards,

Lee

Maybe I missed understood you.

When you said that "im actually considering doing some truly genuine drunk sex shoots for a site concept i want to launch on Raunch Revenue in a couple of months time"

That sounds like you are doing the shoot.
Are you getting someone else to shoot it for you?

[DrChango]

Bec,

Typically i would agree with you however, given there are plenty of 'drunk' spring break / mardis gras type sites out there (even some that arent, that type of site, College Sex Parties from TopBucks for example) i think there are exceptions to the rule and i do feel like a really good exception to the rule is going to be doing a shoot specifically for a 'drunk sex' site.

If the models know what is going to happen, the producer does his part and there is someone there to make sure things dont get out of hand etc, it should be okay right?

I mean most producers have their models sign a liability waiver anyway, so long as all the 'legal paperwork' is taken care of prior to the shoot, there shouldnt be any legal issues that arise.

Regards,

Lee

both our gay and straight college sex party shoots present a wealth of logistical and legal issues--like having to go back and get a full 2257 form for a shoot that was scheduled for posting because one of the "extras" couldn't follow directions and slapped a performer's behind and then legally became a performer too=/
And sadly, that's not the worst of it.

So, it does add realism and it does convert traffic pretty well, but having people inebriated on set will bite you in the behind like an angry badger. Might not be right away, but be mindful that something annoying will happen
*cough cough* whiskey dick *cough*
That being said, good luck with the project if you decide to continue forward. May :bunnypancake: be with you!