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    i thought we were suppossed to be smarter, better faster...?

    Hey Everyone,
    Ive recently posted here regarding rapidshare, sendspace and both google and yahoo groups distributing every-ones content for free.

    I have spent a lot of my own time looking for my content in these groups and along the way have found tons of YOURS too. Im not some big time social networker, so when i come across full length postings of my colleagues' materials, I do my best to find a contact at the company or site and forward it onto them.

    For a while I was sending notices to rapidshare or sendspace or whoever letting them know they were hosting someones copyright materials. But of course I can't send a formal DMCA since I'm not authorized to do so..but this is pretty obvious piracy... Video FULL Gay - Fr - M@x @u p@ys du M@nn3k3n

    The strange thing is that most often I see no response to the message unless its a small company..One guy even told me to stop spamming him and then later on that day I saw a post in the group saying they had been threatened with a DMCA notice by the same person if they didn't stop (threatened?).

    Ive posted these before in another thread but maybe that one was buried and nobody noticed (i sure hope...otherwise we are all fucked)

    but I find stuff like this daily:
    --------- Forwarded message ----------
    From: Rimmer <rimmerxxx@gmail.com>
    Date: Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 11:05 PM
    Subject: [G_M_A_PS_L] New RS link for catalogs of websites' vids
    To: Cinema_Share@yahoogroups.com, gay_movies_and_pictureset_links@yahoogroups.com, V_D_441 yahoo group <V_D_441@yahoogroups.com>




    I don't know why, but the RS link for my catalogs of videos from various websites has changed. Here's the new one:

    rapidshare.com/users/7J73JU

    And here's the SS link again for the same files: sendspace.com/folder/v990lu
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    Now after a while I'm just strating to think webmasters and producers either don't care they are being ripped off, love the free promo or just don't have time to do anything (..since it takes so long to write a notice and fire off a couple of emails these days Here I thought I was doing the right thing by trying to help out my brothers, but instead am losing faith in our industry's ability to get together and do something about the problem.
    Maybe I missed out on something?

    You don't have to be titan to do something about it and this shit is seriously out of control.

    Cheers,
    Jon


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    out of all these...

    I think I've had 3 responses

    doggyboys
    stud2000video
    sxvideo
    usmaleinc
    bijouworld
    goliathvideo
    alphamalemedia
    fratmen
    highoctane
    eonfilms
    eurocreme
    forbiddenfunk
    pacificsun
    primalsex
    falconstudios
    coltstudiogroup
    jetsetmen
    ragingstallion
    darkalley
    factroyvideos
    treasureislandmedia
    pacificsun
    can-am
    lucasentertainment
    musclecore
    hothousemedia
    redstagvideo
    manifestmen
    mike18
    citybeur
    seancody
    menatplay
    siberiaboys
    c1r
    helixstudios
    machofucker
    hotdesertknights
    eboysstudio
    cocostore
    brokestraightboys
    nextdoormale
    3mdprod
    twinkacademy
    xxx-project


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    It's also possible that a lot of those studios aren't regular readers on this board. Have you also posted your findings on other gay webmaster forums like gaydemon.biz and gaymainstreet.com ??


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    working on that now

    Thanks Bec,
    Im slowly working on that. The problem is that I am afraid I'll end up looking like some fanatic, and daily updates will eventually get tired fast and end up being overlooked as just 'another one'..unless I'm wrong.

    I thought places like rapidshare, sendspace, yahoo & google had policies to prevent repeat offenders..seems now like it's all talk


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    Generally, the sharers are seen as a lesser threat, under the model that freeloader thieves were never going to buy anyway.

    I'm not a content maker - but I had a hard time extracting the salient points from your first post - it wouldn't surprise me if your correspondents had the same problem.

    So, I'd suggest trimming down your presentation a bit. Work on building a method for talking to fellow content makers and for setting up a system for coordinated takedown notices.

    ---

    And yes, it is all just talk.


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    Change the title of this poll to '99.99% Of Companies Dont Care' and insert 'about anything' at the end and you will realize it is correct.

    Most people in the business today act all high and mighty publicly on the boards, but the vast majority of them really dont care if their content is being stolen, are getting sales from pirate sites, have affiliates stealing other affiliates traffic through AdWare, etc, etc, etc...

    Its all a show when it comes to the boards they even say they will 'terminate' accounts of affiliates caught doing this stuff, which they do.... They just let the affiliate open up a new account and continue doing it.

    It promotes their brand to surfers, who talk about it with their friends, which makes them money.

    Regards,

    Lee


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    thanks lee

    for the honest reply....all this seems like bad business to me but I guess I am the minority. Its really unfortunate that instead of trying to do anything about the sterotype of the shifty gay porn producer, we can now be 2, 3 even 4 faced on the web and just tell people what they want to hear. It's not very encouraging..and makes me think the small guys are doomed in the biz. You might be saving a buck or two on advertising now but in the longrun its going to slowly bleed you dry. Im suprised we didn't figure this out on our own. It makes no sense to let people go on pirating material 'since they weren't ever going to pay for it anyways'..I mean really now..apply that to any other business...it just doesn't fly


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    BTW, if you are looking to cut down the amount of time it takes you to send out and manage your DMCA notices, you might like to head over and signup for a free account at http://www.dmcatracker.com which we're currently still in beta testing with.

    Might be a good way for you to see who you are sending these notices to on a regular basis and also will help me out in the process by getting some more user feedback

    Regards,

    Lee


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