Hand Submissions to TGP's and MGP's

[StudCity]

Hey whats up. Does anyone here know of any companies that do paid hand submissions to TGP's and MGP's. Any help would be appreciated.

[Dzinerbear]

There's a member on the board, Gel, and I think he'll do paid submissions.

Dzinerbear

[Bell]

I do them...

see:
http://forums.gaywidewebmasters.com/...&threadid=3811

~Bell

[Bec]

Originally posted by Dzinerbear
There's a member on the board, Gel, and I think he'll do paid submissions.

Dzinerbear

Gel handles most of my gallery submits and does a great job ... I highly recommend him.

[Lee]

Cool Gel / Bell if you happen to see this thread.. how much does that service cost?

Regards,

Lee

[Dzinerbear]

Yeah I wouldn't mind knowing myself.
Dzinerbear

[Lee]

Hmm im guessing they must have missed the part where we wanted to find out how much to pay them LOL

Regards,

Lee

[gel]

Thanks for the mention.

I currently have my hands full and am not taking on any submission jobs.

Again thanks for the mention

[Bell]

is your interest solely out of price curiousity or are you looking
for someone to do hand submits for you ??

~Bell

[Lee]

Originally posted by Bell
is your interest solely out of price curiousity or are you looking
for someone to do hand submits for you ??

~Bell

Bit of both.

Regards,

Lee

[Bell]

I've never DONE them for anyone else...
so I've never charged for that...

don't even know what would be a fair amount to charge
someone for performing that service for them...

I was hoping gel or someone out there could answer this one...

or anyone that has hired someone before - maybe they
could give us a pay range...

that's why I held off answering (smile....)

~Bell

[dirtygeek]

This is something that I was thinking about the last few weeks. How much does it cost to have someone just make and post simple tgp sites? How do you track it? (I would guess by having them use affilate links to track sales vers click thrus.)

[Bell]

Originally posted by andymike
This is something that I was thinking about the last few weeks. How much does it cost to have someone just make and post simple tgp sites? How do you track it? (I would guess by having them use affilate links to track sales vers click thrus.)

I wonder how one would track such a thing as well...
because - just because your submitter does submit the gallery
that doesn't mean the tgp (or LL if it's free sites)
- doesn't mean that it get's listed - or when it actually
goes UP on the site ....

I guess if I were the one in your shoes andymike
(or anyone in your situation)
I'd only ever consider hiring someone whom I TRUSTED...

I wish there were a way for someone to verify or prove
that they submitted a gallery - - - like maybe some sort
of submit receipt number or some sort of script that
could track a computers submit session and print that out...

although that would take more of the persons time to look
that over than they would have - and they are the one's short
on time to begin with - usually - hence the need to hire
out that sort of hand-submitting service...

I think it comes down to trust...

there are no guarantees a site will be accepted
yet the submitter would have still spent the time
to do that work...

there are no guarantees that a tgp will leave the gallery
up - once it makes it up there... and a submitter has
still done their part...

and a submitter has no control over those things - even
though they sit there and do the work for you...

but then...

imagine if you had been the one sitting there taking YOUR
time to do the submitting and you'd still end up with the
SAME end results - - - except that it would have been
YOUR time that was all used up - when instead you could
have been doing something else... something that possibly
only you could have done and not hired out...

I would like to hear from others - what sorts of fees
they have either paid someone to hand submit - or
what sort of fees they feel would be fair to charge
for such a service...

I've heard that if the gallery makes one sale that's enough
(generally) to pay a hand submitter to submit another
10 galleires elsewhere and still have a nice chunk of change
left over for yourself off that ONE sale...

hopefully you are creating galleries that will get your
surfer to the paysite and the paysite sponsor you have
selected to promote has done their job in enticing the
surfer to JOIN - so we all benefit... and then if
that JOIN stays and you are an a recurring - it's all
gravy for you - off that one hand submitted gallery...

cycle-money-cycle-money-cycle-money

~Bell

[dirtygeek]

Well, now that I think about it, you could somewhat track it.

#1 You would need an outside stats program. (server log stuff)
#2 know how much traffic you are getting and from where.
#3 make them use an affialte link to track sales. Unless your program already has this info in to show the reffering URL of where the traffic comes from.

[Bell]

Originally posted by andymike
Well, now that I think about it, you could somewhat track it.

#1 You would need an outside stats program. (server log stuff)
#2 know how much traffic you are getting and from where.
#3 make them use an affialte link to track sales. Unless your program already has this info in to show the reffering URL of where the traffic comes from.

sure you could get somewhat of an idea on your ROI

but that won't prove to you that your submitter
did ALL the submits they said they did...
BECAUSE: a submitter can site and DO the work... follow
all the rules... and still NOT have control over whether
a particular TGP OWNER (or reviewer) approves/accepts/posts it
on their TGP... yet the WORK you had CONTRACTED your
submitter to do - would have been DONE...

that's where the trust part comes in...

especially since you'd be paying for the work
long before you could eventually track and ROI

~Bell