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    You do realize by 'gay' I mean a man who has sex with other men?
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    WTF? Paypal Homophobia

    When PayPal, the giant Internet payment processing service, announced last year it would no longer do business with clients that sell pornographic products or services, gay Internet businesses assumed the firm was aiming its new policy at the sex trade rather than at all gay sites.

    But at least two gay-owned companies that conduct business over the Internet say PayPal appears to be using its anti-porn policy against them, even though they don’t consider their businesses to be sexually oriented.

    The Los Angeles based H.I.M. Corp., which operates a network of Web sites that provide services to gay audiences, and New York City-based Belhue Press, which publishes books by gay authors, said PayPal dropped them as clients earlier this year. Officials with the two firms said PayPal informed them via e-mail notification that their Web sites violated PayPal’s recently adopted “acceptable use” policy.

    News of H.I.M. Corp. and Belhue Press’s problems with PayPal surfaced around the same time as reports that PayPal had abruptly ended its services to BadPuppy.com, a sexually oriented Web site that caters to gay men. Officials with BadPuppy.com did not return calls by press time. Sources familiar with the company have said its cutoff from PayPal has caused it to suffer financial hardship.

    Neither PayPal nor its parent company eBay returned repeated calls from the Blade seeking comment on PayPal’s policy on sexually oriented business and whether the policy applies to non-sexually oriented gay businesses. Spokespersons for VISA International and MasterCard, the two largest U.S. credit card service firms, said the two firms don’t have policies restricting payments to sexually oriented businesses as long as those businesses don’t violate any laws.

    PayPal, which was acquired in 2002 by eBay, acts as a payment service that allows online purchasers to pay for products or services directly from their bank accounts as well as from their credit cards. Many customers view the service as a protection against online fraud because they don’t have to reveal credit card information directly to the online companies from which they buy merchandise or services. PayPal acts as a safer intermediary, business analysts have said.

    More than 40 million consumers currently use PayPal, many of whom purchase merchandise through eBay, according to the business publication Hoover Online. Companies that sell merchandise or services online must seek approval from PayPal to become associated with the payment services firm.

    Perry Brass, the Belhue Press owner, said he tried unsuccessfully to reach someone at PayPal by phone to find out why the firm dropped his company as a customer. After a flurry of e-mail exchanges with the company’s customer service department, Brass said, PayPal informed him it stopped doing business with him because it objected to a photo on the cover of one of the books he published.

    According to Brass, the photo showed two bare-chested men embracing one another, with no genital area or “private parts” visible. “It’s no different from the book covers on dozens of straight romance novels that you see on sale in airports or in any bookstore,” Brass said.

    In response to his follow-up e-mails saying the books he publishes aren’t pornographic, PayPal sent him a reply saying the company would consider reinstating his account if he submits a statement promising to “remove the book covers wherein individuals are touching each other.”

    Brass said he refused to agree to such a request and has sought out an alternative company to provide payment services similar to PayPal.

    Matt Skallerud, president of H.I.M. Corp., which stands for Hyperion Interactive Media, told the gay online newsletter PressPassQ in September that PayPal dropped its services to his firm on July 7, without prior notification. Skallerud told PressPassQ that two of the Web sites his firm operates — LesbiaNation and GayWired, provide personal ads for paid members of the sites.

    He said some of the members who take out such ads include “adult” material in them, including photos, but they are only visible to paid members. “I can only assume that they consider these sites adult by their very nature (being gay) and not because there was actually adult material in them,” PressPass Q quoted him as saying.

    Since he doubts that PayPal’s employees paid to join one of these two Web sites to inspect them, Skallerud told PressPassQ, “I’m assuming they dumped us and others on the ‘gay’ issue only.” Skallerud did not return calls to the Blade by press time.

    The Associated Press reported on Sept. 13 that PayPal announced it would fine its business customers as much as $500 if they violate PayPal’s ban against pornography as well as the company’s ban on online gambling services and the sale of prescription drugs that are not certified in the U.S.

    The Canadian International Phamacy Association criticized PayPal for its ban on servicing Web sites that sell prescription drugs from Canada, AP reported. “It was a business decision because we felt it tends to have more fraud than other industries,” PayPal spokesperson Amanda Pires told AP, in discussing the reason for dropping “adult” or sexually oriented Web sites. “We felt it was not in our best interest,” AP quoted Pires as saying.

    http://www.newyorkblade.com/2004/10-...nal/paypal.cfm

    LOL im sorry i just find this amusing.

    As much as i admire and respect the companies that were recently dropped by Paypal, it is their own fault and trying to spin the 'homophobia' issue here is just crazy.

    HIm Corp, allows ADULT companies to avertise therefore, they are an adult related business whether they like it or not. They also operate 'personals' sites which, allude to sexual activites

    BadPuppy, well, again, as much as i admire the guys and gals at BadPuppy, i think every self respecting gay man has heard of them.

    Paypal have let the adult industry know on numerous occasions, through press releases and other companies accounts being terminated that they have a ZERO tolerance policy for 'adult' orientated business.

    You used them to process payments and got caught, dont play the homophobia card to get sympathy for your screwups.

    Regards,

    Lee


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    I am straight, but my ass is gay jIgG's Avatar
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    yeah yeah stop whining with the gay card, don make me slap you with my dildo :whip:


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    People are so quick to play that card. It's simple, you break the rules, you get in trouble.

    I learned that in 1st grade.
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