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    You do realize by 'gay' I mean a man who has sex with other men? IntenseCash.com's Avatar
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    Angry Paypal begins dropping gay mainstream sites

    Man I hated paypal before but now they are just pure evil.

    LOS ANGELES — Just as PayPal resolved the technical problems that plagued it in the last week, new reports have begun to circulate suggesting that the Internet payment processor may be narrowing its acceptable use policy to exclude gay mainstream websites, XBiz was told Friday.
    Since July, several mainstream companies that target gay audiences, including a book publisher and a group of business consultants, have been dropped by PayPal for violating its acceptable use policy, even though the businesses are not sexually oriented. BadPuppy.com and its subsidiary sites, including well-known gay news website GayToday.com, were also dropped.

    “This policy is of such abject stupidity that it’s complete bullshit,” Perry Brass, owner of Belhue Press, told XBiz Friday. “It could have come directly out of the Bush Administration.”

    According to Brass, an award-winning author of, among other things, gay romance novels, PayPal told him that it decided to terminate his account because his website had covers from some of his books on it.

    “They said the problem was that individuals were touching one another,” said Brass. “But the pictures on the covers of these novels aren’t any different than straight romance novels.”

    Amanda Pires, a spokesperson for PayPal, said that PayPal does not have a policy that discriminates against sexual orientation.

    Although she was unable to comment on specifics at deadline, Pires told XBiz that the accounts were probably closed because of a violation of PayPal's acceptable use agreement, which includes prohibitions against products that feature full-frontal nudity.

    According to the acceptable use policy, the company prohibits, “any material or services suggesting sexual activity, any material or services designed to sexually arouse the viewer or reader, [and] non-adult services whose website marketing can be reasonably misconstrued as allowed adult material or services to be purchase using PayPal.”

    "The point of [shutting down the accounts] is not to discriminate against sexual orientation," said Pires. "The point is that we're trying to deter people from violating the acceptable use policy."

    Pires also pointed out that PayPal's decision to close down accounts that deal in adult-oriented material was a business decision and not a moral one.

    "When we exited doing business with the adult entertainment industry, it was because of the risk and fraud that seem to be common in it," Pires said.

    According to Pires, the risk involved in dealing with the adult industry was too great to justify.

    Also dropped by PayPal was H.I.M. Corp., whose website reads, “Your Gay and Lesbian Business Consultants.”

    “Connecting businesses, large and small, with the Gay & Lesbian Marketplace,” reads the H.I.M. Corp. website. It also says the company offers “turn-key software solutions” for gay businesses.

    Matt Skallerud, president of H.I.M. Corp., stated that the only possible websites that may have had adult-material on them would be two personals websites that his company runs. However, the content on those sites would only be available to members.

    “I can only assume that they consider these sites adult by their very nature [of being gay] and not because there was actually adult material in them,” Skallerud told online newsletter PressPass Q in September.

    “This is purely an attempt to censor websites,” said Brass. “My site hasn’t changed since it was originally reviewed when I joined PayPal.”

    Brass also questions PayPal’s actions after they notified him, suggesting that the company engaged in doubletalk and contradictions in its dealings.

    “First, I got an email saying that the PayPal account for my website had been terminated. Then, when I went out to check my account, it said it was on ‘limited usage,’ which basically meant that they’d keep all money from my website for six months,” said Brass. “To get the account reinstated, they said I’d have to remove all the book covers and sign an affidavit saying I’d never violate their policy again.”

    “I basically told them to go to hell,” Brass said.

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    Bleh; thats such ignorant bullshit. Puts me in a bad mood...

    We need a gaypay.com or something like that just for us...


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    As i stated in this thread..

    http://forums.gaywidewebmasters.com/...&threadid=5681

    LOL im sorry i just find this amusing.

    As much as i admire and respect the companies that were recently dropped by Paypal, it is their own fault and trying to spin the 'homophobia' issue here is just crazy.

    HIm Corp, allows ADULT companies to avertise therefore, they are an adult related business whether they like it or not. They also operate 'personals' sites which, allude to sexual activites

    BadPuppy, well, again, as much as i admire the guys and gals at BadPuppy, i think every self respecting gay man has heard of them.

    Paypal have let the adult industry know on numerous occasions, through press releases and other companies accounts being terminated that they have a ZERO tolerance policy for 'adult' orientated business.

    You used them to process payments and got caught, dont play the homophobia card to get sympathy for your screwups.
    Regards,

    Lee


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    I hate to say it, but anything associated with being gay is sexually oriented. Being gay is a sexual orientation. That's the basic meaning of being gay, that you have sex, or the desire to have sex, with people of the same sex. I realize that just because something is for gay people doesn't mean it has to do with sex, but by the basis of the term "gay" it should, and is implied. When you say "I'm gay." the only thing people think is: "They have sex with other men/women." depending on if you're a man or a woman. So unfortunately, all the word gay comes down to is sex. That's it. Doesn't mean anything else to anyone else. Sex.

    I'm tired, and probably rambling, so I'll leave it at that, but that's my 2 cents.


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    DigitalJay
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    My main problem with all this is the Perry Brass story. While I am sure at least one of his novels contains an adult situation, almost every novel I've ever read does, and there are a TON of authors selling their novels through Paypal. He was singled out for the simple fact that two clothed men were shown hugging on the cover. In my opinion that is crap; i seriously doubt they have read any of his (or other authors that use their system) novels.


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