Members of Canadian parliment pushing bill against same sex marriage

[Squirt]

A Conservative Member of the Canadian Parliament, Rob Moore, tabled Bill C-268 on November 5 to define marriage as being between a "between one man and one woman."

Looks like the conservative win in the U.S. is giving Christian Evangelicals in Canada more strength.

[Jasun]

Meh.

That bill has as much of a chance of making it to second reading as I do of marrying Whoppi Goldberg.

It's just the Christianazis out west... there's about 156 of them. They elect a few membes of Parliament, but they never get taken seriously, and none of their private member's bills go anywhere. He knows the bill won't make it to second reading, but he's tableing it for votes from his base.. and nothing else.

We now have gay marraige in 6 Provinces and Yukon Territory, with Newfoundland and Nova Scotia not far behind. The federal Government isn't contesting any of the decisions, and is going to put their own bill forward next year.

And Gay Marraige has the support of the vast majority of Canadians, so it's a done deal.

There's always gonna be some jackass out west with a bee in his bonnet. That's where we keep the jackasses, bonnets and bees.

[Dzinerbear]

Squirt,

I wouldn't tar and feather Canadians with the Republican brush just yet. Here's a little lesson in the Canadian parliamentary process.

As Jasun correctly stated, Bill C-268 is a private member's bill, that is, a bill introduced by a member of parliament who is not a cabinet minister or secretary.

Conservative Member of Parliament David Chatters tabled a private member's bill to define marriage as being "between one man and one woman." Bill C-213 was tabled on October 15, 2004. Rob Moore, another Conservative Member of Parliament, tabled Bill C-268 on November 5. Moore's bill would push the issue back to Parliament.

When bills are first introduced they are called "first readings." Essentially, they are bills that a member of parliament is suggesting the government discuss and vote on.

Private member's bills must be deemed constitutional by the Subcommittee on Private Member's Business before they can be voted on in the House of Commons. In the last Parliament, private member's bills to define marriage as being between a man and a woman were all deemed unconstitutional so could not be put to a vote.

At this point, the private member's bill is dead. It goes no further.

Bills introduced by the government are numbered C-1 to C-200, these are the ones to be considered more seriously. Private member's bills are numbered C-201 to C-1000, and they hardly ever pass first reading.

In order for a bill to become an act of parliament (or law) it must pass through three readings in the House of Commons. It then proceeds to the Senate, where if the Senate makes any changes it goes back to Parliament for their approval. If it passes the Senate without any further changes, it proceeds to the Governor General, who is the Crown's (Queen of England) representative in Canada. If the Governor General gives their consent, which they almost always do, then the bill becomes an act of parliament – law.

Canada is an independent country not governed by England any longer. We kept the Governor General's position out of respect for our heritage, the past, and the Queen.

Rob Moore, as Jasun mentioned, is a member of the Conservative Party. However, he's a member from the province of New Brunswick, not out west. And Jasun was absolutely bang on when he said that the private member's bills are almost always introduced so the member can go back to his constituents and say, "See, I tried to make a difference, but all of those Liberals wouldn't even consider my legislation. Aren't I a good little member of parliament, I tried my best, please re-elect me and I try even harder next time."

Canadian civics class is over.

Cheers
Dzinerbear

[Squirt]

Originally posted by Jasun
That bill has as much of a chance of making it to second reading as I do of marrying Whoppi Goldberg.

And Gay Marraige has the support of the vast majority of Canadians, so it's a done deal.

There's always gonna be some jackass out west with a bee in his bonnet. That's where we keep the jackasses, bonnets and bees.

Good! Glad to hear the "Evangelical" evil doers aren't out in force in Canada :high:

[Jasun]

Originally posted by Dzinerbear
Rob Moore, as Jasun mentioned, is a member of the Conservative Party. However, he's a member from the province of New Brunswick, not out west.

You're right... got him confused with that other dude... whatever his name is.. who was gonna table a similar bill.

I grew up in New Brunswick. It was hell. Extremely Cold (Much colder than Toronto ever gets) and the winters are extremely long. It's very remote and shares it's time zone with two other tiny little provinces and nothing else. There's also jackasses out there.