Well I take a different slant, though I basically agree with most of the shrink stuff... trouble is many overdo the primary color which is why sometimes they simply don't work. (just speaking generally btw)

For myself, I have found that a lot depends on the content being displayed. If its a ton of pictures, darker colors tend to offset the pictures better, while if text, then the lighter colors offset the dark text color.

I have tried black, failed horribly at it. Tried red and blue too, same results. But then I have more of a text driven site so I think for me, the lighter shades are what has worked and still do.

However I like all the info Lee, has given me some ideas and now I know I won't be able to sleep tonight, so thanks a bunch..:whip: :joker: