Well, I hope this is the right place to put this... I went with this Stoke Show, big time. I cut the other stuff out. I do have hmboys at the bottom there though... since they are huge. Did I do wrong? You tell me... I created a large page of stroke show.... might as well put that content in there. I mean, after all it is there... and "the boys" should see what they are buying... Anyway, I'll tell you how it goes.